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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 30

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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
May 11 2012 15:07 GMT
#581
so there will be now kespa players in DH, IPL and IEM? I want a free market not a monopoly.
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Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
May 11 2012 15:09 GMT
#582
On May 11 2012 23:31 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:13 Kuni wrote:
On May 11 2012 22:53 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 11 2012 22:13 holypalaswe wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/tht60/mlg_and_kespa_announce_exclusive_multiyear/c4mqoj0



I honestly had never been to r/Starcraft before clicking this link. ROFL what a sewer...


Looking at some threads here on TL, I don't really see that much difference apart from more moderation here on TL :-)



Lol is there any moderation on reddit? It's a gigantic difference.



Nope, there pretty much isn't. But that is not necessarily a bad thing. People who use reddit go all out on their opinions without fear of repercussions. Yes, many are vulgar and insulting, but that is the only difference between reddit and TL. There's bandwagoning on both portals, same with mob-justice, propaganda and insults. Just look at how many fanclubs and controversial threads have a mod-edit telling the people to not insult others. :-)



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zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 11 2012 15:10 GMT
#583
On May 12 2012 00:07 archonOOid wrote:
so there will be now kespa players in DH, IPL and IEM? I want a free market not a monopoly.


As if Kespa would allow their players to play in those tournaments. You have to give them a reason, And as of now MLG is the only one capable of doing that.
TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
May 11 2012 15:11 GMT
#584
On May 12 2012 00:04 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
All this says is that some KESPA players will play at MLG. Maybe it is the pessimist in me but I wonder if this will have any of the SC1 superstars playing at the first event or if it will be just lower levels that have been focused on SC2 longer.

I'm 50/50 on it. In one way I think they want to show their best playing, but those best are still splitting their time with SC1. So do they want them coming out and probably losing? Do they want to hurt their image?

I think they will send out lower players from their teams until the SC1 guys have enough practice in to know they will place high against anyone. But who knows, maybe they have all been practicing SC2 more than SC1. I'm just not getting my hopes up on who we will see there until they announce who actually be there.


Sundance tweeted that he's looking foward to meeting Flash at Anaheim so there definitely will be some A-leaguers in attendence.
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freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
May 11 2012 15:12 GMT
#585
Foreigners will never win another foreign event ever again.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 11 2012 15:15 GMT
#586
On May 12 2012 00:11 TheLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:04 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
All this says is that some KESPA players will play at MLG. Maybe it is the pessimist in me but I wonder if this will have any of the SC1 superstars playing at the first event or if it will be just lower levels that have been focused on SC2 longer.

I'm 50/50 on it. In one way I think they want to show their best playing, but those best are still splitting their time with SC1. So do they want them coming out and probably losing? Do they want to hurt their image?

I think they will send out lower players from their teams until the SC1 guys have enough practice in to know they will place high against anyone. But who knows, maybe they have all been practicing SC2 more than SC1. I'm just not getting my hopes up on who we will see there until they announce who actually be there.


Sundance tweeted that he's looking foward to meeting Flash at Anaheim so there definitely will be some A-leaguers in attendence.


Nice, I didn't know that. (Still won't personally care until Jaedong comes lol)
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
May 11 2012 15:15 GMT
#587
Just ground breaking!
Brood War forever!
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
May 11 2012 15:16 GMT
#588
On May 12 2012 00:07 archonOOid wrote:
so there will be now kespa players in DH, IPL and IEM? I want a free market not a monopoly.


This is a free market. Two companies combining to rise above the others. Happens in free markets all the time.
I'm a gooner.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 11 2012 15:16 GMT
#589
On May 12 2012 00:12 freeshooter wrote:
Foreigners will never win another foreign event ever again.

If you count only MLG and possibly DH as a foreign event... -_-
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 15:18 GMT
#590
On May 12 2012 00:09 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:31 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:13 Kuni wrote:
On May 11 2012 22:53 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 11 2012 22:13 holypalaswe wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/tht60/mlg_and_kespa_announce_exclusive_multiyear/c4mqoj0



I honestly had never been to r/Starcraft before clicking this link. ROFL what a sewer...


Looking at some threads here on TL, I don't really see that much difference apart from more moderation here on TL :-)



Lol is there any moderation on reddit? It's a gigantic difference.



Nope, there pretty much isn't. But that is not necessarily a bad thing. People who use reddit go all out on their opinions without fear of repercussions. Yes, many are vulgar and insulting, but that is the only difference between reddit and TL. There's bandwagoning on both portals, same with mob-justice, propaganda and insults. Just look at how many fanclubs and controversial threads have a mod-edit telling the people to not insult others. :-)





The best thing about Reddit is that you get a total gauge of what the community thinks because there's no restrictions at all on people posting their opinions.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 15:19 GMT
#591
On May 12 2012 00:16 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:12 freeshooter wrote:
Foreigners will never win another foreign event ever again.

If you count only MLG and possibly DH as a foreign event... -_-


Koreans win everything anyway unless they're extremely outnumbered by foreigners and even then they usually still win.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#592
On May 12 2012 00:12 freeshooter wrote:
Foreigners will never win another foreign event ever again.


Koreans usually win any tournament they are in anyway (be it Western or Korean team). Who cares as long as the games are good.
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
May 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#593
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#594
interesting interesting.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 15:28:09
May 11 2012 15:24 GMT
#595
Dont like the exclusivity. And Sundance being purposedly vague is most likely a bad sign. There just no reason at all to be vague if everything was fine (from a fan point of view, that is, BW players to all event).

"No commenst on exclusivity".
"Trying to make it work with DH, cant say about the rest".
"We will work with all our partners".
Last one totally sound like: you better become our bitch ("partner") or you wont see any BW players ("or we wont work with you").

That would have been
"We're sorry for the confusion caused by us mentioning it being 'exclusive' in our announcement. We have no intention to limit BW players from going to any events outside our own."
if thats what they wanted.

But, i guess its business. No hard feelings really, just disapointment as an SC2 fan,
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
May 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#596
So happy I just barfed. I wish I was a pro sc2 player even more now, seeing as I might get the chance to play against legendary BW players. So sick, can't wait for june 9th. I graduate on the seventh, so I'll have nothing to do except watch SC2 all weekend.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
May 11 2012 15:36 GMT
#597
This should be great news, but if exclusive means that kespa players can't attend other tournaments than MLG this is bad news :/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 11 2012 15:38 GMT
#598
Yeah uh, I paid for the spring season but I'm not paying for summer MLGs if this exclusivity is what MLG wants.
Inverse1
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 15:39:44
May 11 2012 15:39 GMT
#599
so sick, FLASH AT MLG PLZZZZ! Dunno if anyone asked this already (didn't read through a 30 page thread due to revision) but will these exhibitions be casted and stuff on stream? And will they be on the free streams or the PPV ones? Good news though, and i'm glad they haven't thrown them straight into deathtrap of the open bracket or anything like that, would make things less fun if a Flash or a Bisu got rolled by someone who wasn't spectacular, its good to keep it separate for now, and it builds more fan intrigue for when the top BW pros start to meet the top SC2 players. Excited for more details!
i'm about to open some fuckin' windows
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 11 2012 15:41 GMT
#600
On May 12 2012 00:21 Kuni wrote:
I really hope though that all the BW pros get crushed like there is no tomorrow. Not because of all those BW elitists, no not at all. Rather because it would really kind of certify the hard work all of the real sc2 progamers like DRG, Nestea, MKP and all the others have put in during the last two years and it would show, that you cannot play the game a few weeks and suddenly be the king of the world. Even the gods will have to work very hard.

That is the funny thing. They will not play against anyone that played the game over the past 2 years. All they will do is "exclusive tournament" between each other. That is at MLG. Other than that BW pros will play again against each other in PL and OSL... Even their coaches said that they want to play vs GSL players "only when they are ready" which means if KeSPA teams think that their players suck, they will never ever play against GSL players. I guess they don't want to break their "God aura".
About the exclusive thing... The plan is simple. MLG locks KeSPA players for themselves and their partners(read:everyone that pays). The next step is to make every single MLG event PPV and that will most likely happen next year.
It's pretty sad that MLG is trying to create monopoly for themselves, but I guess that is how they roll.
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