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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 29

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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 14:46:58
May 11 2012 14:43 GMT
#561
On May 11 2012 23:37 MLGrben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:11 Rorschach wrote:
Horrible news.

The way it seems to be playing out, KeSPA players will only be allowed to participate in MLG events. These MLG events will of course be PPV, so the only way to see KeSPA players playing is to fork out cash. MLG will of course share the profits they make off of this with KeSPA.

Makes sense for the companies in short term, bad for the SC2 scene in general tho.


MLG Championship events always have been free, nothing has changed. Tune in during Anaheim and watch, it will be free.


You should be a bit careful saying this unless you are sure that all the BW Pro's games at Anaheim will be on the free stream and not behind the paywalled beta(black/white) streams. Is that what you are saying?

Edit: Just saw this tweet from Sundance. No PPV for BW Pro games. We shall see.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
May 11 2012 14:44 GMT
#562
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see what this has to do with the GSL. Granted, it's horrible that foreign tournaments that aren't MLG are being hung out to dry (except the tournament which is MLG's partner) but at the press conference a few weeks ago, KeSPA essentially said they wanted their player playing against and with the very best of the GSL players, and they seemed open to running an over-arching joint league or to allowing their players to play in the GSL.

Make no mistake: BW players are popular, but you're alienating a lot of viewers if you run a tournament with no GSL players. There are a lot of people, both foreigners and Koreans, that have followed Sc2 from day 1, and while they may also have been fans of BW, they're intimately interested in the play of MMA, MVP, MC, DRG, and the like. I don't think KeSPA can just pretend the last two years didn't happen; the players are too good and successful for that.
Isator
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany57 Posts
May 11 2012 14:45 GMT
#563
i read it and accidentally jizzed for joy *_*
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bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
May 11 2012 14:48 GMT
#564
On May 11 2012 23:44 Shiori wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see what this has to do with the GSL. Granted, it's horrible that foreign tournaments that aren't MLG are being hung out to dry (except the tournament which is MLG's partner) but at the press conference a few weeks ago, KeSPA essentially said they wanted their player playing against and with the very best of the GSL players, and they seemed open to running an over-arching joint league or to allowing their players to play in the GSL.

Make no mistake: BW players are popular, but you're alienating a lot of viewers if you run a tournament with no GSL players. There are a lot of people, both foreigners and Koreans, that have followed Sc2 from day 1, and while they may also have been fans of BW, they're intimately interested in the play of MMA, MVP, MC, DRG, and the like. I don't think KeSPA can just pretend the last two years didn't happen; the players are too good and successful for that.


Better ignoring the current scene till their players catchup than ruining all the work theyve put into making their player's stars by having them get thrashed.
WestToast
Profile Joined April 2012
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 14:54:02
May 11 2012 14:49 GMT
#565
On May 11 2012 23:44 Shiori wrote:

KeSPA essentially said they wanted their player playing against and with the very best of the GSL players


Haha, exactly.

Why would a current top GSL player stay in the GSL, when KeSPA has access to a considerably larger audience?

The current KeSPA aces have until October to get their SC2 game together, at which point all of the top pros from all leagues will make a mad dash towards KeSPA.

If MLG didn't make this deal, for which I imagine MLG paid dearly, it could have been left behind.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
May 11 2012 14:49 GMT
#566
This is some pretty amazing news i cant wait to see who they select to play at these events
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dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
May 11 2012 14:50 GMT
#567
THIs is going to be epic :D
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striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
May 11 2012 14:50 GMT
#568
Well, I'm one of these new school SC player who have never play a second of BW. So all these BW player are alien to me as I've never heard of them in my life. I don't really have interest in watching them at this point.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 14:50 GMT
#569
On May 11 2012 23:41 WestToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:28 MegaFonzie wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:26 WestToast wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:09 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:07 Lyter wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:03 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:01 00Visor wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:13 Integra wrote:
AMAZING NEWS

SO dammn nice that the whole Kespa vs the west bullshit finally is over! the SC community )includes Starcraft1, Broodwar and Starcraft2 is finally at peace!!


You realize the small word "exclusive"? Kespa players may not play at any other foreign events.
This is bad.


It's not bad. Maybe a little unfortunate for other events, but I don't see this as anything bad.


I wouldn't want them flying out everywhere anyway, I will always view the regular league based competition as the pinnacle, not some one-off weekend event that has the player grind through 50 games


That possibly includes GSL too. So not only one-off weekend events.


Doubt GSL will exist after October.


I can almost 100% assure you GSL will still be alive after October


How would that be possible? I am under the impression that KeSPA has far more viewers than GSL?

Because GSL is (unlike every single NA/EU event) making a profit right now.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
May 11 2012 14:50 GMT
#570
Nothing amazing , this just means that that MLG will stay the same : TOP 10 full korean.
rly ?
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#571
I...don't know if I'm happy...

From all the control KeSPA asserted over Korean leagues it was "partnered" with, I'm worried this may turn sower down the line.

I think I spelled sower wrong...
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#572
On May 11 2012 23:41 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:37 MLGrben wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:11 Rorschach wrote:
Horrible news.

The way it seems to be playing out, KeSPA players will only be allowed to participate in MLG events. These MLG events will of course be PPV, so the only way to see KeSPA players playing is to fork out cash. MLG will of course share the profits they make off of this with KeSPA.

Makes sense for the companies in short term, bad for the SC2 scene in general tho.


MLG Championship events always have been free, nothing has changed. Tune in during Anaheim and watch, it will be free.


But what i see here is that there is going to be an exclusive tournament for the Kespa guys. And probably this stream wont be free. Also the HotS stream won't be free either i suppose.

So yeah for the first time i will see myself thinking about buying this stuff.


The exclusive tournament is because the KESPA players will kind of suck at first and watching them lose to randoms would kill the hype a lot.
Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
May 11 2012 14:52 GMT
#573
I wish this happened at the start of sc2. Cant even begin to imagine where we would be if they did.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 14:52 GMT
#574
On May 11 2012 23:50 algue wrote:
Nothing amazing , this just means that that MLG will stay the same : TOP 10 full korean.


As would all tournaments if every professional player in the world was in attendance.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 11 2012 14:52 GMT
#575
On May 11 2012 23:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:41 WestToast wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:28 MegaFonzie wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:26 WestToast wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:09 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:07 Lyter wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:03 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:01 00Visor wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:13 Integra wrote:
AMAZING NEWS

SO dammn nice that the whole Kespa vs the west bullshit finally is over! the SC community )includes Starcraft1, Broodwar and Starcraft2 is finally at peace!!


You realize the small word "exclusive"? Kespa players may not play at any other foreign events.
This is bad.


It's not bad. Maybe a little unfortunate for other events, but I don't see this as anything bad.


I wouldn't want them flying out everywhere anyway, I will always view the regular league based competition as the pinnacle, not some one-off weekend event that has the player grind through 50 games


That possibly includes GSL too. So not only one-off weekend events.


Doubt GSL will exist after October.


I can almost 100% assure you GSL will still be alive after October


How would that be possible? I am under the impression that KeSPA has far more viewers than GSL?

Because GSL is (unlike every single NA/EU event) making a profit right now.


Source?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 11 2012 14:54 GMT
#576
I've mixed feelings. First the SC2/BW PL which is a bad thing for the players and now this, which is also IMO a bad thing for the players of KESPA if it prevents them from taking part at valuable foreign tournaments for multiple years.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 14:57:08
May 11 2012 14:56 GMT
#577
On May 11 2012 23:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:41 WestToast wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:28 MegaFonzie wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:26 WestToast wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:09 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:07 Lyter wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:03 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:01 00Visor wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:13 Integra wrote:
AMAZING NEWS

SO dammn nice that the whole Kespa vs the west bullshit finally is over! the SC community )includes Starcraft1, Broodwar and Starcraft2 is finally at peace!!


You realize the small word "exclusive"? Kespa players may not play at any other foreign events.
This is bad.


It's not bad. Maybe a little unfortunate for other events, but I don't see this as anything bad.


I wouldn't want them flying out everywhere anyway, I will always view the regular league based competition as the pinnacle, not some one-off weekend event that has the player grind through 50 games


That possibly includes GSL too. So not only one-off weekend events.




Doubt GSL will exist after October.


I can almost 100% assure you GSL will still be alive after October


How would that be possible? I am under the impression that KeSPA has far more viewers than GSL?

Because GSL is (unlike every single NA/EU event) making a profit right now.


Source?

Fxo.Boss's blog.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 11 2012 15:04 GMT
#578
All this says is that some KESPA players will play at MLG. Maybe it is the pessimist in me but I wonder if this will have any of the SC1 superstars playing at the first event or if it will be just lower levels that have been focused on SC2 longer.

I'm 50/50 on it. In one way I think they want to show their best playing, but those best are still splitting their time with SC1. So do they want them coming out and probably losing? Do they want to hurt their image?

I think they will send out lower players from their teams until the SC1 guys have enough practice in to know they will place high against anyone. But who knows, maybe they have all been practicing SC2 more than SC1. I'm just not getting my hopes up on who we will see there until they announce who actually be there.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 11 2012 15:05 GMT
#579
On May 11 2012 23:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:41 torm3ntin wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:37 MLGrben wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:11 Rorschach wrote:
Horrible news.

The way it seems to be playing out, KeSPA players will only be allowed to participate in MLG events. These MLG events will of course be PPV, so the only way to see KeSPA players playing is to fork out cash. MLG will of course share the profits they make off of this with KeSPA.

Makes sense for the companies in short term, bad for the SC2 scene in general tho.


MLG Championship events always have been free, nothing has changed. Tune in during Anaheim and watch, it will be free.


But what i see here is that there is going to be an exclusive tournament for the Kespa guys. And probably this stream wont be free. Also the HotS stream won't be free either i suppose.

So yeah for the first time i will see myself thinking about buying this stuff.


The exclusive tournament is because the KESPA players will kind of suck at first and watching them lose to randoms would kill the hype a lot.


I know that. All i'm stating is that we don't know yet but i think this tournament won't be free on the stream.

You heard it here FIRST.
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Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
May 11 2012 15:05 GMT
#580
This sounds really hard to implement actually. It is right dab in the middle of OSL and PL season. I do know that SKT has threatened to withhold players due to favoring tournaments over others (threatened withholding from the group selection to prepare for PL finals before). Hopefully we won't see that drama this time.
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