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On May 11 2012 03:35 R3demption wrote:Is he confirmed to be playing? Havent really heard anything out of JD in terms of SC 2
He hasn't retired and T8 is playing sc2, so it's pretty safe to assume.
Interesting how they feel about zerg and balance in general, as they have a very unique view on that. I hope they take hots and the fact that there is another expansion to follow in consideration when choosing races.
From the games I saw FBH seems to actually do really well as protoss. I really hope the first sc2 OSL and GSL don't overlaps so we can see everyone play in both leagues (kinda like msl and osl used to be).
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I just hope Bisu and Jaedong stay as Protoss and Zerg. It seems quite common that terran either consider switching or switch to protoss and vice versa.
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I hope Flash annihilates everyone and anyone. If he struggles to stay in the scene, it's going to be a shocker for me.
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On May 11 2012 03:45 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:44 Demonhunter04 wrote:On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII." I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2. I wonder what Blizzard will think of this? Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2? What league are you? Unless you're top 5 Master you really shouldn't say anything about "Zerg feeling hard". The effect of balance on your results is dwarfed by the effect of your own skill. And there goes elitism.
It's not elitism. The game is balanced enough that the tiny imbalances won't decide your games.
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On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:Show nested quote +"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII." I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2. I wonder what Blizzard will think of this? Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2?
Having a hard time doesn't mean, it's a hard race. Srsly bro, these are BW pros. They used to incredible multitasking and micro.
"Having a hard time" means, they're not used to the way zerg is played in SC2. It's different from SC1. Maybe they realise, that SC2 zerg can't be played like BW zerg, which means they lack success in training against others. Doesn't mean Zerg is harder to play.
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Bw Zergs are probably having the most trouble adjusting to Zerglings not being able to rip everything apart and not having creep colonies.
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I think zergs are having trouble because zerg requires the player to have a understanding about opponent timings/builds etc while P/T can do their own thing much more.
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On May 11 2012 04:14 ooozer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII." I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2. I wonder what Blizzard will think of this? Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2? Having a hard time doesn't mean, it's a hard race. Srsly bro, these are BW pros. They used to incredible multitasking and micro. "Having a hard time" means, they're not used to the way zerg is played in SC2. It's different from SC1. Maybe they realise, that SC2 zerg can't be played like BW zerg, which means they lack success in training against others. Doesn't mean Zerg is harder to play.
Agree with oozer on this one. In SC2 Zerg is the race where you lose to inferior players until you figure out all the different timings. It just takes time, don't expect all of these BW pros to be godly at the game after only a few weeks of practice.
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On May 11 2012 03:45 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:44 Demonhunter04 wrote:On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII." I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2. I wonder what Blizzard will think of this? Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2? What league are you? Unless you're top 5 Master you really shouldn't say anything about "Zerg feeling hard". The effect of balance on your results is dwarfed by the effect of your own skill. And there goes elitism.
Elitism, in a competitive sport? I'm shocked.
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On May 11 2012 03:35 R3demption wrote:Is he confirmed to be playing? Havent really heard anything out of JD in terms of SC 2
Jaedong is busy overseeing the construction of new golden and platinum mouses to be delivered to his house after he's done winning every single SC2 event in the next 2 years. Including the proleague. By himself.
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Good to hear Jangbi didn't left Aiur  Flash may sound modest, but at the same time I feel he knows what he's talking about - ripping GSL apart will take more than 3 months of training.
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No coincidence Flash says it will take 2-3 years to become as good as in BW--with his practice hrs that would put him above the 10,000 hour rule
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flash is being modest. he'll be gsl champion in months.
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On May 11 2012 04:14 ooozer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII." I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2. I wonder what Blizzard will think of this? Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2? Having a hard time doesn't mean, it's a hard race. Srsly bro, these are BW pros. They used to incredible multitasking and micro. "Having a hard time" means, they're not used to the way zerg is played in SC2. It's different from SC1. Maybe they realise, that SC2 zerg can't be played like BW zerg, which means they lack success in training against others. Doesn't mean Zerg is harder to play.
While that is true when you look at the last 2 GSL results you notice zerg is strugling.
Yea DRG won but he was the only zerg to even make it to ro8, this season there wasn't even one in ro8.
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On May 11 2012 03:36 IPS.Mardow. wrote:Please Jaedong, stick to zerg! We need him to bring zerg gameplay to the next level 
My thoughts exactly haha ^^
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On May 11 2012 03:41 roym899 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:37 Destroyr wrote:On May 11 2012 03:34 OpTicalRH wrote:Yeah, many all of existing BW players are complaining about Zerg + Show Spoiler +, poor Jaedong :/ I think this might be due to ladder practice. Artosis mentioned that the korean ladder is full of aggressive strange cheese builds... probably with the current zerg arsenal it is hard to play against that. But i am only assuming. Maybe someone who is acctually playing there knows more about it  No, i don't think so. Ofc you can win with Zerg and so on. But one problem with SCII right now is, that for Zerg it's very hard to win constantly, because you are reluctant on mistakes of the other races more then those are reluctant on Zergs mistakes. Just my opinion. Although I'm only a Diamond Zerg who played Terran before. But it's my experience and also the way you see Zerg pros struggle to constantly get very good tournement results... look at DRG, Stephano or Nestea. All of them get knocked out in a very early round of a tournement in the last few major tournaments. I think that Terran is the most consistent race. Protoss is hard to tell but Toss is getting better and better in the last time.
Yes, DRG, Stephano and Nestea all have terrible tournament results. Great argument from a Diamond zerg.
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Interesting, it would be quite the statement if the switching pros wouldn't pick Zerg almost at all, im sure someone will draw up a stat once all the data is available
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On May 11 2012 04:20 zezamer wrote:
I think zergs are having trouble because zerg requires the player to have a understanding about opponent timings/builds etc while P/T can do their own thing much more.
It was the same in BW. Zerg hasn't changed in terms of that. It's not new to them really.
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