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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3695 Posts
May 10 2012 18:55 GMT
#41
On May 11 2012 03:35 R3demption wrote:
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On May 11 2012 03:34 StaplerPhone wrote:
As long as JD is still zerg

Is he confirmed to be playing? Havent really heard anything out of JD in terms of SC 2


He hasn't retired and T8 is playing sc2, so it's pretty safe to assume.

Interesting how they feel about zerg and balance in general, as they have a very unique view on that. I hope they take hots and the fact that there is another expansion to follow in consideration when choosing races.
From the games I saw FBH seems to actually do really well as protoss. I really hope the first sc2 OSL and GSL don't overlaps so we can see everyone play in both leagues (kinda like msl and osl used to be).
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 10 2012 18:57 GMT
#42
I just hope Bisu and Jaedong stay as Protoss and Zerg. It seems quite common that terran either consider switching or switch to protoss and vice versa.
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 19:06:52
May 10 2012 18:58 GMT
#43
I hope Flash annihilates everyone and anyone. If he struggles to stay in the scene, it's going to be a shocker for me.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
May 10 2012 18:58 GMT
#44
On May 11 2012 03:45 darkness wrote:
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On May 11 2012 03:44 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:
"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII."


I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2.

I wonder what Blizzard will think of this?

Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2?


What league are you? Unless you're top 5 Master you really shouldn't say anything about "Zerg feeling hard". The effect of balance on your results is dwarfed by the effect of your own skill.


And there goes elitism.


It's not elitism. The game is balanced enough that the tiny imbalances won't decide your games.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 10 2012 18:59 GMT
#45
Where's Bisu?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 19:12:20
May 10 2012 19:12 GMT
#46
Hey OP, you got a mistake in your post. Its Clam, not Calm.

+ Show Spoiler +
lol
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
ooozer
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany231 Posts
May 10 2012 19:14 GMT
#47
On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:
Show nested quote +
"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII."


I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2.

I wonder what Blizzard will think of this?

Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2?


Having a hard time doesn't mean, it's a hard race. Srsly bro, these are BW pros. They used to incredible multitasking and micro.
"Having a hard time" means, they're not used to the way zerg is played in SC2. It's different from SC1. Maybe they realise, that SC2 zerg can't be played like BW zerg, which means they lack success in training against others. Doesn't mean Zerg is harder to play.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
May 10 2012 19:17 GMT
#48
Bw Zergs are probably having the most trouble adjusting to Zerglings not being able to rip everything apart and not having creep colonies.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 10 2012 19:20 GMT
#49
I think zergs are having trouble because zerg requires the player to have a understanding about opponent timings/builds etc while P/T can do their own thing much more.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
May 10 2012 19:20 GMT
#50
On May 11 2012 04:14 ooozer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:
"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII."


I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2.

I wonder what Blizzard will think of this?

Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2?


Having a hard time doesn't mean, it's a hard race. Srsly bro, these are BW pros. They used to incredible multitasking and micro.
"Having a hard time" means, they're not used to the way zerg is played in SC2. It's different from SC1. Maybe they realise, that SC2 zerg can't be played like BW zerg, which means they lack success in training against others. Doesn't mean Zerg is harder to play.


Agree with oozer on this one. In SC2 Zerg is the race where you lose to inferior players until you figure out all the different timings. It just takes time, don't expect all of these BW pros to be godly at the game after only a few weeks of practice.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
danakaz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark84 Posts
May 10 2012 19:22 GMT
#51
On May 11 2012 03:45 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 03:44 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:
"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII."


I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2.

I wonder what Blizzard will think of this?

Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2?


What league are you? Unless you're top 5 Master you really shouldn't say anything about "Zerg feeling hard". The effect of balance on your results is dwarfed by the effect of your own skill.


And there goes elitism.

Elitism, in a competitive sport? I'm shocked.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
May 10 2012 19:22 GMT
#52
On May 11 2012 03:35 R3demption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 03:34 StaplerPhone wrote:
As long as JD is still zerg

Is he confirmed to be playing? Havent really heard anything out of JD in terms of SC 2


Jaedong is busy overseeing the construction of new golden and platinum mouses to be delivered to his house after he's done winning every single SC2 event in the next 2 years. Including the proleague. By himself.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
May 10 2012 19:24 GMT
#53
Good to hear Jangbi didn't left Aiur Flash may sound modest, but at the same time I feel he knows what he's talking about - ripping GSL apart will take more than 3 months of training.
protect me from what I want
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
May 10 2012 19:25 GMT
#54
No coincidence Flash says it will take 2-3 years to become as good as in BW--with his practice hrs that would put him above the 10,000 hour rule
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 10 2012 19:25 GMT
#55
flash is being modest. he'll be gsl champion in months.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 10 2012 19:26 GMT
#56
On May 11 2012 04:14 ooozer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 03:41 Radament wrote:
"This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII."


I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks zerg is so hard in sc2.

I wonder what Blizzard will think of this?

Does that mean the zerg players from broodwar that play zerg in sc2?


Having a hard time doesn't mean, it's a hard race. Srsly bro, these are BW pros. They used to incredible multitasking and micro.
"Having a hard time" means, they're not used to the way zerg is played in SC2. It's different from SC1. Maybe they realise, that SC2 zerg can't be played like BW zerg, which means they lack success in training against others. Doesn't mean Zerg is harder to play.

While that is true when you look at the last 2 GSL results you notice zerg is strugling.
Yea DRG won but he was the only zerg to even make it to ro8, this season there wasn't even one in ro8.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 10 2012 19:27 GMT
#57
On May 11 2012 03:36 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Team 8 Coach Han Sang-Yong states: No players in our team changed races.


Please Jaedong, stick to zerg! We need him to bring zerg gameplay to the next level


My thoughts exactly haha ^^
When I think of something else, something will go here
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
May 10 2012 19:29 GMT
#58
On May 11 2012 03:41 roym899 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 03:37 Destroyr wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:34 OpTicalRH wrote:
Yeah, many all of existing BW players are complaining about Zerg + Show Spoiler +
imbalances
, poor Jaedong :/


I think this might be due to ladder practice. Artosis mentioned that the korean ladder is full of aggressive strange cheese builds... probably with the current zerg arsenal it is hard to play against that. But i am only assuming. Maybe someone who is acctually playing there knows more about it

No, i don't think so. Ofc you can win with Zerg and so on. But one problem with SCII right now is, that for Zerg it's very hard to win constantly, because you are reluctant on mistakes of the other races more then those are reluctant on Zergs mistakes. Just my opinion. Although I'm only a Diamond Zerg who played Terran before. But it's my experience and also the way you see Zerg pros struggle to constantly get very good tournement results... look at DRG, Stephano or Nestea. All of them get knocked out in a very early round of a tournement in the last few major tournaments. I think that Terran is the most consistent race. Protoss is hard to tell but Toss is getting better and better in the last time.


Yes, DRG, Stephano and Nestea all have terrible tournament results. Great argument from a Diamond zerg.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 10 2012 19:29 GMT
#59
Interesting, it would be quite the statement if the switching pros wouldn't pick Zerg almost at all, im sure someone will draw up a stat once all the data is available
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 10 2012 19:31 GMT
#60
On May 11 2012 04:20 zezamer wrote:
I think zergs are having trouble because zerg requires the player to have a understanding about opponent timings/builds etc while P/T can do their own thing much more.


It was the same in BW. Zerg hasn't changed in terms of that. It's not new to them really.
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