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kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 08 2012 04:55 GMT
#1041
GLOBAL?
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
May 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#1042
Been saying since beta the whole reason we didn't have the basic features of b.net 1 was so they could release them as a reason to buy HotS.

Thanks for that shared rep viewing blizz. Really appreciate it!
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
May 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#1043
Not bad, if this stuff actually comes to fruition then it's gonna be pretty good.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
May 08 2012 05:05 GMT
#1044
While I'm very pleased with these additions I have to point out that this should have been done with WoL. Still very happy, rather late than never.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Grani
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany50 Posts
May 08 2012 05:10 GMT
#1045
Thank you Blizz, but all this comes 2 god damn years too late, assuming a late 2012 release.
Even a 2013 release wouldn't shock me.
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
May 08 2012 05:11 GMT
#1046
has anyone said this yet:
"Hell, its about time."

anyway, a tear of joy rolled down my face as i read this
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
May 08 2012 05:13 GMT
#1047
On May 08 2012 12:24 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 12:18 Probulous wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:27 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:21 windsupernova wrote:
How dare Blizzard re add features Grrrrrr. Should have left Bnet as it is. Its almost like they realized they screwed up and are trying to correct their mistake it makes me soooo mad.

its not that we are mad that we will now have these features. its that blizzard intentionally left out basic functionalities that previous incarnations of a ~12 year old starcraft had [or other lesser RTS games] in order to readd them later to make more money. owning WoL feels like i bought an 2012 aston martin with a tape deck and roll down windows and its just frustrating


That's a pretty big call. It is also possible that Blizzard just had completely the wrong idea about what the community valued in the previous game and have been playing catch up since then. The improvements they have made since launch suggests the latter to me. Companies make mistakes and to just assume they do them on purpose is a tad extreme.

You're suggesting they intentionally sabotaged their major release product so as to provide old features during the expansion. What if WOL completely flopped? It's not impossible but I find it highly unlikely that they would do this on purpose.

admittedly its just my opinion. if, while designing the biggest and most anticipated rts sequel of all time, Multiplayer resume from replay, Global Play, Multilanguage support, Clan/group system, Unranked matchmaking and Multiplayer replay viewing seem like things that never crossed blizzards minds as things that could be added to sc2 [while most have existed in other, older, blizzard games with overwhelming positive feedback], or you believe that they believed the community would not enjoy then you are free to take the other side.


Contray to popular belief, despite the cash cow that's World of Warcraft Blizzard doesn't has an endless amounts of resources to work with when developing a game. I'm sure those things crossed Blizzard's mind during developement but their priority were elsewhere. The game engine, building the framework of battle.net 2.0, not only for SC2 but for World of Warcraft and Diablo 3. I think most of the work went into the game engine and made sure you can actually play it.

They also probably looked at Battle.net 1.0 and saw what people were actually using things for, they initially scrapped chat channels in battle.net 2.0 because they found that chat channels in the first one were dominated of spammers and the like which isn't ideal. It was a bad idea to remove chat channels but I can understand their thought process. They probably went over all the stuff and cut things that they thought would speed up developement time by quite a bit. (remember, SC2 was in developement for ages).

I also think that after WoW Blizzard kind of forgot that what works for a MMO doesn't always work for an RTS. (The lack of Global play) for example.

Although Blizzard made some terrible decisions not including some crucial things It's probably not because of some marketing scheme. They prefer had all that stuff at launch and for HoTs come with actual new exciting changes to Battle.net instead of these overdue things.
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foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 05:15:13
May 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#1048
Well, this is too little too late so i am still disappointed. We had shared replays 15 years ago...

Also, this new matching thing will kill the ladder so I don't like it.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 05:17:33
May 08 2012 05:16 GMT
#1049
I bet this shit is coded, in-house tested and ready to go but is being used as a marketing tool. Diablo 3 will have global play implemented on its launch ffs and shared replay viewing has been seen since Windows 98.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#1050
On May 08 2012 12:24 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 12:18 Probulous wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:27 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:21 windsupernova wrote:
How dare Blizzard re add features Grrrrrr. Should have left Bnet as it is. Its almost like they realized they screwed up and are trying to correct their mistake it makes me soooo mad.

its not that we are mad that we will now have these features. its that blizzard intentionally left out basic functionalities that previous incarnations of a ~12 year old starcraft had [or other lesser RTS games] in order to readd them later to make more money. owning WoL feels like i bought an 2012 aston martin with a tape deck and roll down windows and its just frustrating


That's a pretty big call. It is also possible that Blizzard just had completely the wrong idea about what the community valued in the previous game and have been playing catch up since then. The improvements they have made since launch suggests the latter to me. Companies make mistakes and to just assume they do them on purpose is a tad extreme.

You're suggesting they intentionally sabotaged their major release product so as to provide old features during the expansion. What if WOL completely flopped? It's not impossible but I find it highly unlikely that they would do this on purpose.

admittedly its just my opinion. if, while designing the biggest and most anticipated rts sequel of all time, Multiplayer resume from replay, Global Play, Multilanguage support, Clan/group system, Unranked matchmaking and Multiplayer replay viewing seem like things that never crossed blizzards minds as things that could be added to sc2 [while most have existed in other, older, blizzard games with overwhelming positive feedback], or you believe that they believed the community would not enjoy then you are free to take the other side.


If only someone could've invented a machine to read minds we could just make a perfect product in the first place! Nah, they are holding back on purpose. All of these features have been in since 2007. You heard it here first. I have a leaked Excel sheet. It even has a ">" face in one of the cells.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
May 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#1051
Hell, it will have been about time?

Still no LAN. Yes all these things are great, but with the exception of maybe multiplayer replay viewing...i cant imagine it should have taken more than a matter of weeks to hack that stuff together.

I thought blizzard used to be all about getting it right before releasing their products. Oh well, I guess im the sucker that thought this stuff would be implemented shortly after the release of WOL.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
May 08 2012 05:21 GMT
#1052
Everything people wanted, well except LAN but they got closest to fixing that without actually giving people LAN.

Great stuff
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Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 08 2012 05:22 GMT
#1053
On May 08 2012 07:36 Gigaudas wrote:
Multiplayer resume from replay
Global Play
Multilanguage support
Clan/group system
Unranked matchmaking
Multiplayer replay viewing


While I'll def. have to purchase the expansion I can't help but hate Blizzard even more for being a company that makes money by screwing customers over.

These functions aren't something that you should get in an expansion, they are easy to implement and should've been patched into the game as soon as Blizzard realized people's demand for them (which should've been back in the beta of 2010).

I used to be happy to help fund Blizzard. Now I consider them a scourge of the gaming market, a company who's ideals must be fought for the sake of us gamers - and the only way a customer can fight is with his wallet.


It likely won't require the expansion. But you'll get it anyway. So why whine about it.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
May 08 2012 05:22 GMT
#1054
I'm really not bothered that it's "late". I assume Blizz had a release date for WoL and had to cut features like this to get it out. After that, they're fucked whatever they do:

1) They add the occasional new feature asap during live release, and risk breaking other things and having to take down b.net for a while, inducing untold forum nerd rage. Testing is really hard 'cause barely anyone wants to play a PTR.

2) They wait until HotS when lots of people can beta test and get flamed by people saying they're trying to farm money from customers and that it's been too long a wait.

All that aside: most features can be programmed in relatively simply, and I'm sure Blizzard could've "hacked in" (I mean hack in the proper programming sense) solutions for things like clan support.

But trying to do things quickly like that can leave you with problems in the future; it can leave you open to situations where you realise to make future feature x work properly, you're going to have to go back and rewrite the "quick fix" code you wrote earlier because it doesn't play nice with the rest of the system, which would obviously be a massive waste of time invested.

Trying to add these kinds of new features to a live system like b.net is going to be really hard. Waiting until beta (where a couple of days' downtime now and then is totally expected) is smart.

I would've liked some of these features sooner, but I can certainly understand why Blizz have waited for an expansion. As such, I'm just happy they've been finally announced.
Icemind
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany570 Posts
May 08 2012 05:25 GMT
#1055
Thesupercow you legacy will forever be remembered.
The man that showed them how.

Pretty impressive feature list all arround but i wont start jumping in excitement before it actually is released
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
May 08 2012 05:29 GMT
#1056
Hey Blizz:

[image loading]

Also:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9E8ZdOdus&list=PLC1966225EA0940E4&index=1&feature=plcp
And:
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
May 08 2012 05:35 GMT
#1057
On May 08 2012 01:05 bmml wrote:
Classic, shit we shouldve got for free but have to pay for.

Good nonetheless I guess.


They don't specify that this would be included with the expansion.
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CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
May 08 2012 05:37 GMT
#1058
Better late then never I suppose.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 08 2012 05:37 GMT
#1059
On May 08 2012 14:14 foxmulder_ms wrote:
Well, this is too little too late so i am still disappointed. We had shared replays 15 years ago...

Also, this new matching thing will kill the ladder so I don't like it.


It won't kill the ladder. The ladder will be more meaningful knowing people there want to actually be there and compete and do care about their ranking.

Suddenly the ladder is a lot more meaningful than today in terms of competition.
JeffS
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
May 08 2012 05:40 GMT
#1060
hopefully the units are awesome, are they gonna be shown at mlg?
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