[Rant]/[D] Witch Hunting and 'eSports' - Page 11

On May 08 2012 00:46 nkr wrote:


I think we're going to hit a state where every progamer is afraid to use racist language on their stream.

On May 08 2012 00:52 Dfgj wrote:

lol people in the community get uppity when ANYTHING is said, not just racist comments. People got mad when DJWheat said 'bitches'. People get mad when people show personality in interviews.

On May 08 2012 00:46 nkr wrote:


I think we're going to hit a state where every progamer is afraid to use racist language on their stream.

On May 08 2012 00:44 Dosey wrote:

Is that not EXACTLY what everyone *for* going to sponsors saying?

"Don't give us the ammunition to do it and we wont"

I was just pointing out how similar these whistle blowers are to some of the "most vile" internet bullies.

On May 08 2012 00:49 CidO wrote:
Glad to see more people realizing how overzealous the SC2 community can be. I've never seen such mob mentality of all my time on the internet. Did you see how quick people went from "I <3 destiny, he is so crazy" to omg racist? Why? A few weeks ago they'd be all over him? He's the same guy? He jokes around the same?

The funny thing is, people still seem to think they matter to the pros. They're professionals. They do this for a living. That doesn't mean they need to act polite. Polite does not equal professional. Professional is getting results.

Anywho, see you all again in 4-6 weeks when another witchhunt happens for someone acting "crazy" and everyone switches from extreme love to extreme hate for 2-3 days and then forgets it ever happens, until the next witchhunt.

On May 08 2012 01:06 awu25 wrote:

Your first paragraph is definitely a huge assumption that the people who love him were the same people who called him out. That's totally wrong. When a player does something wrong, the anti-fans come crawling out and become a vocal voice. There are probably only a select few who were fans and actually started to hate him after this incident

On May 08 2012 00:28 Nimic wrote:
I reject the premise that it was a bad idea to contact sponsors, in some cases. Not Orb, perhaps, but certainly Destiny. Yes, it should have been left to the team to deal with it. But they knew about it, and they didn't. Also, I don't see how any amount of extra information can be a bad thing. If sponsors aren't willing to knowingly sponsor people who use that kind of language, then the answer isn't to hide it from them, it's to stop using that kind of language.

It's a bit like a politician complaining about a newspaper making his affair public.

On May 08 2012 00:00 sick_transit wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me the amount of time and energy people spend on this site defending and/or debating what is obviously bad behavior. If you want to play custom games with your friends, by all means call them all the names you want. If you want to be a professional--i.e., get paid--then prepare to be held to ordinary standards of professional conduct. This goes for players, casters, managers, teams, and anyone else. In the modern world, in which we happen to live, this is not just true for all professional sports, it is true for all jobs. I think most of the actual professionals in this industry get this because they are grown-ups and live in the grown-up world. Many people on this site appear to still be figuring it out.

On May 07 2012 23:52 kuroshiro wrote:
You don't need to treat sponsors like glass chandeliers. They are by-and-large astute business men with enough worldly experience to understand these situations. They're not gonna pull sponsorship from an entire team because of the actions of one member if they can just deal with the one member instead (ring any bells?). This is because the sponsorship is a business transaction that benefits them as well as the team.

If teams are struggling to find sponsors it's not because of standard "dirty-laundry" stuff like this, it's because esports is a business model that's untested.

On May 08 2012 01:15 Lightspeaker wrote:


This, so so much.

Honestly I'm absolutely blown away by the fact that people are STILL SAYING "oh you shouldn't tell the sponsors, it hurts e-sports".

Which do you think is more likely to put sponsors off: being informed by the community that one of their representatives is acting inappropriately? Or suddenly and unexpectedly finding out that they're sponsoring people whose idea of a laugh is spouting racist language because the community tolerates that kind of thing and just keeps quiet?

Which is more likely to make them simply drop the player/team in question and which is more likely to make them think "my god, we don't want to be associated with anyone in this kind of community, it'll harm our company image" and quit out of sponsorship entirely?