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alcaras
United States67 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
MMR should have carried over from last season as I only played one placement, and my opponents more or less seem to be my level. Anything else I need to check? | ||
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etherealfall
Australia476 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HQBsI0m.png) Question: Currently in masters and sitting around the 45% overall ratio. You can see by my graph that I very rarely hit over the actual promotion line for Masters but here I am after all the filtering for the league, still in Masters. Is there something wrong with the promotion line or do I seriously not belong in Masters? Sort of been bugging me lol. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
"2013-06-12: Blizzard has potentially changed league offsets --> Calculations may be incorrect until new offsets are calculated and published (takes potentially few weeks to collect enough data to calculate new offsets)" When the new offsets are published also a new version of the tool will be released, which will archive all S11 and S12 HotS data. --- Those who wonder why they do not get a good game: MMR can only be calculated from some matches (you need at least one of such 'good games' for graph to appear). There are lots of requirements. You can read some from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561¤tpage=154#3071 | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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J0EBL0W
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Trifectuh
United States3 Posts
That is, as long as you don't care about your ladder rank :D On another note, any word on the updated league offsets for this thing? | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:01 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Add me to the list of people who can never seem to get a "good game". Played over 11 matches and nada =/ MMR should have carried over from last season as I only played one placement, and my opponents more or less seem to be my level. Anything else I need to check? I have 1/98 good games at the moment. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On June 19 2013 22:03 etherealfall wrote: So this is my graph for this season:: Question: Currently in masters and sitting around the 45% overall ratio. You can see by my graph that I very rarely hit over the actual promotion line for Masters but here I am after all the filtering for the league, still in Masters. Is there something wrong with the promotion line or do I seriously not belong in Masters? Sort of been bugging me lol. I have 1100 points currently, I am way above the promotion line and am in Diamond. | ||
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Wilko
Germany470 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On June 24 2013 09:05 Wilko wrote: Hm, korona, when do you think you will have enough data collected to determine the new off-sets. Any estimated date? It really depends on how much people are playing. We need to get games that match a specific criteria in order to calculate the new offsets, so it takes some time. | ||
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FlyingBeer
United States262 Posts
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PantsB
United States77 Posts
http://imgur.com/8p36ZQq ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8p36ZQql.jpg) I play barely any Masters opponents. Its got me in every league but the one I'm actually in,. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On June 24 2013 14:02 PantsB wrote: I think the quirkiness might be getting worse right now. I'm a mid-diamondish player (closer to low than high). I was promoted from plat this season aroung game 25 on this chart. After game 75 or so it retroactively made a rather.. .extreme retroactive adjustment. Before this adjustment, it had me mostly under the diamond line. http://imgur.com/8p36ZQq I play barely any Masters opponents. Its got me in every league but the one I'm actually in,. Yes, the tool is going through a bit of a mid life crisis. We're hoping to have it fixed soon. Whenever blizzard changes the league offsets, everything breaks. I'll talk to Korona about simplifying how we calculate it. EDIT: I'll try to explain how we find the offsets simply: We need to find two games played in succession that are both good games, and both played against different leagues. For example, Game 1 would be played against a master league player, and game 2 played against a diamond. We then calculate the DMMR for the player, and after subtracting them, we know the difference between the two leagues. The reason it takes so long is because the offsets affect each other. Having an inaccurate lower league offset has some effect on the higher league offset. Since we have few players playing in the lower leagues, finding an offset for them takes a very long time. Basically, a low amount of people playing + strict criteria = long ass time. This is how I understand it, anyway. I never looked into the offsets much. | ||
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Aurik
Germany12 Posts
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2577 Posts
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Tuczniak
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On June 25 2013 22:57 AmericanUmlaut wrote: That's what I accidentaly did. I hope it helped a little Ok, guys, everyone tank your MMR to worker-rush land and then work your way back up. Let's get some good games for our MMR Rating Tool buddies!  | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On June 25 2013 22:54 Aurik wrote: How much time do u think you will need to fix it? U said some weeks, but we are in S4 for some weeks now. So maybe u will have it in a few days or do you think it will take even more time? Or maybe it is possible to release a version not finaly ok but even better then the old one and update it later to a perfect one? (Sry for bad english) Hopefully today or tomorrow if nothing problematic is found. If you have clear spikes in your S12 to S13 data (the previous 2 seasons) please set the causing games bad. The new version will archive S12 & S13 data & if there are spikes they will also be in archive data. And the tool itself needed also some changes so only changing the offsets was not enough. Sometimes things take time especially as this is a legacy program (some parts like the archiving code should be rewritten if there was time) and it is not an option to release not properly tested version that would potentially break user data. On June 25 2013 22:57 AmericanUmlaut wrote: Ok, guys, everyone tank your MMR to worker-rush land and then work your way back up. Let's get some good games for our MMR Rating Tool buddies! No need to start MMR abusing & potentially getting banned by Blizzard for it. Indeed there are extremely little data from bottom leagues: - e.g. only one datapoint regarding bronze-silver offsets. Will use a educated guesses based on user graphs for the lowest leagues. On June 25 2013 23:01 Tuczniak wrote: It would be nice if there were some indication if the offsets are correct or not. Maybe just make the not straight line. That's what I accidentaly did. I hope it helped a little Like the original post states there were offset changes. It should be quite clear from the erratic MMR graphs too. There were few character accounts that had been leveled up from bronze to master. They were helpful regarding visual verification. | ||
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Footymd
Canada105 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On June 26 2013 01:29 Footymd wrote: So from what i am reading its normal for me to look at my graph and it say that my current MMR is 850~ and like an hour later with no games played it drops to 690~ and randomly bounce back The graph should only change when you play a game. | ||
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