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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 06 2013 23:05 GMT
#3001
2.0.8 added some extra information to replay files. Any idea what that is? Separate categorization of unranked play?
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Chillyo
Profile Joined December 2012
United States70 Posts
May 07 2013 00:19 GMT
#3002
Your tool is OP

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MnM.Xia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
May 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#3003
23:31:3 Game Start detected 23:31:3 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS 23:31:3 Reading Memory ...OK 23:31:3 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! 23:31:43 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles 23:31:47 Webgrabber: Player true 23:31:50 Webgrabber: Opponent true 23:31:50 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles 23:31:50 Pre-Trigger done 23:51:21 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles 23:51:24 Webgrabber: Player true 23:51:28 Webgrabber: Opponent true 23:51:28 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles 23:51:28 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player) 23:51:28 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/293928/1/Xia/ 23:51:28 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/293928/1/Xia/ 23:51:28 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1479397/1/Ken/ 23:51:28 DATA Alg.B: success:http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1479397/1/Ken/ 23:51:28 Gamecheck: true 23:51:28 POST-Trigger done 23:51:28 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR 23:51:28 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 75% 23:51:28 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 75% 23:51:29 OK Uploader: game uploaded 23:51:29 Ladder Game Done! 23:51:29 --------------------------

i already played five games, its not loading...
Chillyo
Profile Joined December 2012
United States70 Posts
May 07 2013 05:29 GMT
#3004
It took me about 35 games to get a good game, just keep laddering.
dashiz
Profile Joined August 2010
Costa Rica193 Posts
May 07 2013 07:52 GMT
#3005
Waiting on GM like this

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Lets see if I can make it if I get to play right when it launches
iDaNkS
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)37 Posts
May 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#3006
i played over 60+ games and i cant find a good game is there something wrong?
Menace 2 Starcraft
Average Joe
Profile Joined November 2011
21 Posts
May 07 2013 17:24 GMT
#3007
On May 02 2013 11:19 KillerofGods wrote:
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On May 02 2013 11:11 HeavenScent wrote:
Good afternoon,

I am not sure if I am posting in the right area, however I am having some real difficulties using MMR stats in the new season. The game are not being compilled correctly and the error message;

- DATACOLLECTION IS LOCKED AT THE MOMENT! (is seen along with)
- FATALERROR WEBGRABBER Wrong Season! Update your DB File! READ: 13 EXPECTED: 12

Could anyone give me some guidance on how to rectfy this. I have downloaded the most up to date version of both sc2gears and mmr stats.

I used it in the previous season but reset it for the new season, knowing my MMR then not having it is worse then not having it at all

Thankyou in advance for your assistance;


MMR stats database is locked atm the blizzard webprofiles haven't updated for NA but once it does they will release an update for mmr stats that will correct it for the new season.


I am still getting the Wrong Season error. Do I need to change something on my end? Thanks
EliteEFive
Profile Joined June 2012
United States21 Posts
May 07 2013 18:48 GMT
#3008
Is this an exact calculator? Or just a guesser?
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Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
May 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#3009
On May 08 2013 03:48 EliteEFive wrote:
Is this an exact calculator? Or just a guesser?

This is very accurate, I went from bronze to diamond to test it and it perfectly predicted my different league changes.
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 07 2013 20:43 GMT
#3010
1/50 games atm. Is there potentially something wrong or is it just random? I see others with like 10/30 and stuff. I am 1054 masters MMR atm and there is no way I am above the promotion line in reality, I am winning barely above 50% vs all diamond players.
Red and yellow are all I see
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
May 08 2013 01:13 GMT
#3011
On May 08 2013 05:43 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
1/50 games atm. Is there potentially something wrong or is it just random? I see others with like 10/30 and stuff. I am 1054 masters MMR atm and there is no way I am above the promotion line in reality, I am winning barely above 50% vs all diamond players.


It is possible that your single good game is based on data that has errors and thus it gives incorrect values. All other values are estimates.

Example of calculation mistake can be seen few posts above in Chillyo's graph (spike to low masters). All games in that spike are based on single "good game" that probably should be set to bad.

On May 08 2013 02:24 Average Joe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 11:19 KillerofGods wrote:
On May 02 2013 11:11 HeavenScent wrote:
Good afternoon,

I am not sure if I am posting in the right area, however I am having some real difficulties using MMR stats in the new season. The game are not being compilled correctly and the error message;

- DATACOLLECTION IS LOCKED AT THE MOMENT! (is seen along with)
- FATALERROR WEBGRABBER Wrong Season! Update your DB File! READ: 13 EXPECTED: 12

Could anyone give me some guidance on how to rectfy this. I have downloaded the most up to date version of both sc2gears and mmr stats.

I used it in the previous season but reset it for the new season, knowing my MMR then not having it is worse then not having it at all

Thankyou in advance for your assistance;


MMR stats database is locked atm the blizzard webprofiles haven't updated for NA but once it does they will release an update for mmr stats that will correct it for the new season.


I am still getting the Wrong Season error. Do I need to change something on my end? Thanks

Maybe you are one of those people who cannot reach the website. Then you can download a mirror of the DB file (will not mirror all future db-files): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561&currentpage=148#2951
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 01:24:19
May 08 2013 01:16 GMT
#3012
Memory addresses were changed in SC2 patch 2.0.8. Thus memory reader will not work correctly after patching.

InfCereal has already prepared a new version of mem reader, but it likely is published late Wednesday EU time as a part of new version of MMR tool (don't have time to check it / publish it now).
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 08 2013 01:55 GMT
#3013
Hi, here's the new ramscaner:

http://www.filedropper.com/ram

Instructions:

Navigate to your documents folder, then sc2gears, then plugins, then MMRPlugin. You should see a ram.exe already there. Go ahead and replace that with the new one.

Ex. C:\Users\Cereal\Documents\Sc2gears\Plugins\MMRPlugin



Cereal
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
May 08 2013 04:09 GMT
#3014
My mmr is 1674, if i dont get gm this season i ll be really mad. Blizzard was always cheating on me in that terms.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
May 08 2013 04:32 GMT
#3015
On May 08 2013 13:09 Sokrates wrote:
My mmr is 1674, if i dont get gm this season i ll be really mad. Blizzard was always cheating on me in that terms.

We will see. Please note that the numbers are gave a purely guesses based on end of last season's data (guesses as many gm range players have no recorded data via mmr tool / all data may not be fresh). Also worth noting is that many play their character as high as possible, stop playing and continue just when GM opens. Lots of EU data suggested this was happening. US should not be different regarding this. --> The border may be higher.

But please report if your MMR was enough. I am interested can the border be estimated based on the general data from the end of previous season.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
May 08 2013 04:47 GMT
#3016
On May 08 2013 13:32 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 13:09 Sokrates wrote:
My mmr is 1674, if i dont get gm this season i ll be really mad. Blizzard was always cheating on me in that terms.

Also worth noting is that many play their character as high as possible, stop playing and continue just when GM opens. Lots of EU data suggested this was happening. US should not be different regarding this.


Can you explain in detail what you mean by this?

Like 15months ago my mmr was sick high on EU, i only got top gms and i got only 7-9 points for the "average gm" player. Then all of a sudden players a lot worse got promoted into gm (players that would show me as "slightly favored" on the loading screen) for no fucking reason. At that time i was furiously checking sc2 ranks, i compared the last season stats to the current stats and some people were worse in every way, yet got promoted. I didnt make any fucking sense and left my really bitter. I was rank 1 in my masters division for like 5-6 seasons and that was a generally a really strong division.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
May 08 2013 05:00 GMT
#3017
On May 08 2013 13:47 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 13:32 korona wrote:
On May 08 2013 13:09 Sokrates wrote:
My mmr is 1674, if i dont get gm this season i ll be really mad. Blizzard was always cheating on me in that terms.

Also worth noting is that many play their character as high as possible, stop playing and continue just when GM opens. Lots of EU data suggested this was happening. US should not be different regarding this.


Can you explain in detail what you mean by this?

Like 15months ago my mmr was sick high on EU, i only got top gms and i got only 7-9 points for the "average gm" player. Then all of a sudden players a lot worse got promoted into gm (players that would show me as "slightly favored" on the loading screen) for no fucking reason. At that time i was furiously checking sc2 ranks, i compared the last season stats to the current stats and some people were worse in every way, yet got promoted. I didnt make any fucking sense and left my really bitter. I was rank 1 in my masters division for like 5-6 seasons and that was a generally a really strong division.

During the first week of the new season some players stop playing after a win streak. Due to the win streak their MMR rises above their 'normal' level. Thus when GM opens and they play one game, they have better chance to make it.

And when I checked the data for the first week of the new season, I noticed that many players had considerably increased their MMR during that week. Some of them might use the principle I mentioned.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 08 2013 06:06 GMT
#3018
On May 08 2013 14:00 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 13:47 Sokrates wrote:
On May 08 2013 13:32 korona wrote:
On May 08 2013 13:09 Sokrates wrote:
My mmr is 1674, if i dont get gm this season i ll be really mad. Blizzard was always cheating on me in that terms.

Also worth noting is that many play their character as high as possible, stop playing and continue just when GM opens. Lots of EU data suggested this was happening. US should not be different regarding this.


Can you explain in detail what you mean by this?

Like 15months ago my mmr was sick high on EU, i only got top gms and i got only 7-9 points for the "average gm" player. Then all of a sudden players a lot worse got promoted into gm (players that would show me as "slightly favored" on the loading screen) for no fucking reason. At that time i was furiously checking sc2 ranks, i compared the last season stats to the current stats and some people were worse in every way, yet got promoted. I didnt make any fucking sense and left my really bitter. I was rank 1 in my masters division for like 5-6 seasons and that was a generally a really strong division.

During the first week of the new season some players stop playing after a win streak. Due to the win streak their MMR rises above their 'normal' level. Thus when GM opens and they play one game, they have better chance to make it.

And when I checked the data for the first week of the new season, I noticed that many players had considerably increased their MMR during that week. Some of them might use the principle I mentioned.


While that is true and a concern, it's at least mitigated by the fact that the GM entry requirements measure the moving average* of each candidate's MMR, rather than the raw MMR value itself which is prone to streaks and therefore more volatile. We still don't know the exact type of moving average, the period, or any of the specifics so this doesn't immediately help, but it's a little more reliable than "win 3 games in a row then sit on it = instant GM" =)

*Moving average is what Blizzard measures for any league change, not just GM. The MMR tool's estimation of moving average does not reflect Blizzard's internal measurement.
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Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
May 08 2013 06:43 GMT
#3019
I still dont get the system (and i m really good at "getting stuff"), and nobody knows for sure how the mmr exactly works.

Also there are huge differences in the leagues themselves, there is a huge skillgab between low - mid- high - top masters.
Also the different divions are not very homogen, sometimes i see divisions where a player is rank 15 but would be the leader of 50% of the other masters divisons and then i see divisions where rank 1-8 wouldnt be even rank 25 in 50% of a regular divison.

It is so unclear and vague, it would much rather prefer at more exact system like the one we had in wc3 tft.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
May 08 2013 07:46 GMT
#3020
I made 3 games now and i didnt get promoted, the guy that got promoted had 10 mmrpoints less than me. GJ blizzard. Keeping it real. What a fucking joke.
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