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afiLiazn
Profile Joined February 2012
United States47 Posts
May 08 2013 10:04 GMT
#3021
http://i.imgur.com/VIEq7G1.png

Not as accurate for GM :p
dw.Justify
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany34 Posts
May 08 2013 11:25 GMT
#3022
I got not promoted to gm with 1630 MMR an opponent of me had 900 points and 1700 mmr got no promotion to GM on europe. But most players that had a bit more points (most 920 +) got promotion to gm, so i guess the line was / is around 1700.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 16:48:36
May 08 2013 15:42 GMT
#3023
On May 08 2013 19:04 afiLiazn wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/VIEq7G1.png

Not as accurate for GM :p

Neither GM line has never been exact as GM promotions are dynamic --> promotion border changes. All other leagues have static borders. For example the currently shown gm line is a subjective mixing point for master & gm players during last season.
On May 08 2013 20:25 dw.Justify wrote:
I got not promoted to gm with 1630 MMR an opponent of me had 900 points and 1700 mmr got no promotion to GM on europe. But most players that had a bit more points (most 920 +) got promotion to gm, so i guess the line was / is around 1700.

Interesting. Thought you had no good game for a while (mem reader would increase amount of 'good games' a lot).

Indeed the small amount of data suggests indeed that for EU it was near 1700. For US little less than 1700. Of course the border may rapidly increase when more people are promoted.
mithrandi
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa4 Posts
May 09 2013 02:51 GMT
#3024
The memory scanner doesn't seem to work for me since patch 2.0.8; I get this every game:

4:44:12 Reading Memory ...OK
4:44:12 ERROR: Could not find memory profile for the opponent! Perhaps its just a custom game...
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 03:49:31
May 09 2013 03:36 GMT
#3025
On May 09 2013 11:51 mithrandi wrote:
The memory scanner doesn't seem to work for me since patch 2.0.8; I get this every game:

4:44:12 Reading Memory ...OK
4:44:12 ERROR: Could not find memory profile for the opponent! Perhaps its just a custom game...

Read original post and download a new memory scanner. It will be published later with a new version of the tool, but you get it faster by downloading it manually.

Edit: And a new version of the tool is released at earliest Thursday evening EU time. But it had one potential new bug that may delay release.
mithrandi
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa4 Posts
May 09 2013 04:17 GMT
#3026
Whoops, guess I never checked the first page *blush*
SC2Frozen
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland23 Posts
May 09 2013 14:33 GMT
#3027
Am seeing something strange, and am not sure whether these things are related. I use sc2gears on a Mac, and am seeing this message in the sc2gears system messages:

Failed to start plugin "MMR Stats"!
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Unable to load library 'Advapi32': dlopen(libAdvapi32.dylib, 9): image not found
at com.sun.jna.NativeLibrary.loadLibrary(NativeLibrary.java:166)
at com.sun.jna.NativeLibrary.getInstance(NativeLibrary.java:239)
at com.sun.jna.Library$Handler.<init>(Library.java:140)
at com.sun.jna.Native.loadLibrary(Native.java:393)
at com.sun.jna.platform.win32.Advapi32.<clinit>(Advapi32.java:38)
at com.sun.jna.platform.win32.Advapi32Util.registryGetIntValue(Advapi32Util.java:669)
at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gears.services.Sc2RegMonitor.getGameStatus(Sc2RegMonitor.java:216)
at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gears.services.plugins.GeneralServicesImpl.getGameStatus(GeneralServicesImpl.java:481)
at mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin.init(MMRPlugin.java:195)
at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gears.services.plugins.PluginControl$1.run(PluginControl.java:159)

Additionally, if I the MMR plugin is loaded and I try to quit sc2gears (using File -> Quit or Alt-X), sc2gears hangs up and has to be force-quit. If the MMR plugin directory is not there, this bug does not occur.

I've been seeing this for a week or so - can it be an MMR-plugin issue? Please let me know if you would like more information in order to debug.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 16:12:26
May 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#3028
On May 09 2013 23:33 SC2Frozen wrote:
Am seeing something strange, and am not sure whether these things are related. I use sc2gears on a Mac, and am seeing this message in the sc2gears system messages:

Failed to start plugin "MMR Stats"!
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Unable to load library 'Advapi32': dlopen(libAdvapi32.dylib, 9): image not found
+ Show Spoiler +
at com.sun.jna.NativeLibrary.loadLibrary(NativeLibrary.java:166)
at com.sun.jna.NativeLibrary.getInstance(NativeLibrary.java:239)
at com.sun.jna.Library$Handler.<init>(Library.java:140)
at com.sun.jna.Native.loadLibrary(Native.java:393)
at com.sun.jna.platform.win32.Advapi32.<clinit>(Advapi32.java:38)
at com.sun.jna.platform.win32.Advapi32Util.registryGetIntValue(Advapi32Util.java:669)
at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gears.services.Sc2RegMonitor.getGameStatus(Sc2RegMonitor.java:216)
at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gears.services.plugins.GeneralServicesImpl.getGameStatus(GeneralServicesImpl.java:481)
at mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin.init(MMRPlugin.java:195)
at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gears.services.plugins.PluginControl$1.run(PluginControl.java:159)


Additionally, if I the MMR plugin is loaded and I try to quit sc2gears (using File -> Quit or Alt-X), sc2gears hangs up and has to be force-quit. If the MMR plugin directory is not there, this bug does not occur.

I've been seeing this for a week or so - can it be an MMR-plugin issue? Please let me know if you would like more information in order to debug.

Sent a test version with a fix based on this report to SC2Frozen. Based on this recent Mac problems can likely be solved.
MMR-Stats
Profile Joined January 2013
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 18:43:55
May 09 2013 18:41 GMT
#3029
2013-05-09: MMR tool v. 9.3 released + GM lines updated
See change notes from original post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561#1

The HotS GM lines were also updated. Top GM lines are based on S12 end data and GM promotion lines based on starting values when GM opened for S13. Please note that neither are exact. It seems that the low border to get in GM was little less than 1700 for both EU & NA.
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 19:43:27
May 09 2013 19:33 GMT
#3030
I just wanted to check this out, seems pretty cool but I haven't been able to download the file since yesterday. Can you mirror it someplace? Thanks!

Edit: You know what, it must be my home internet somehow not having a route to your server. Downloaded fine over 4G on my phone. Weird.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
May 09 2013 20:14 GMT
#3031
On May 10 2013 04:33 i.of.the.storm wrote:
I just wanted to check this out, seems pretty cool but I haven't been able to download the file since yesterday. Can you mirror it someplace? Thanks!

Edit: You know what, it must be my home internet somehow not having a route to your server. Downloaded fine over 4G on my phone. Weird.

Yes. During last few weeks there has been routing problems from NA. Reason for this is unknown. Maybe some DNS problems with some US ISP...

Mirror of MMR tool v 9.3:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3jdyzs2uc3dgcq9

Mirror of DB file 13.1 (only compatible with v 9.0 or later. Unzip it to [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\ ) :
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?riezgg4mn0y9smk
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 21:25:25
May 09 2013 21:24 GMT
#3032
On May 10 2013 05:14 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 04:33 i.of.the.storm wrote:
I just wanted to check this out, seems pretty cool but I haven't been able to download the file since yesterday. Can you mirror it someplace? Thanks!

Edit: You know what, it must be my home internet somehow not having a route to your server. Downloaded fine over 4G on my phone. Weird.

Yes. During last few weeks there has been routing problems from NA. Reason for this is unknown. Maybe some DNS problems with some US ISP...

Mirror of MMR tool v 9.3:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3jdyzs2uc3dgcq9

Mirror of DB file 13.1 (only compatible with v 9.0 or later. Unzip it to [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\ ) :
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?riezgg4mn0y9smk


Ah, I see. What's the DB file for? Didn't see any mention of it in the first post unless I missed something.

Also meh, seems like some of my opponents are playing unranked which means my MMR can't be found? Just had 3 games against people who should have no bonus pool and none were good
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
cjm7324
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5 Posts
May 10 2013 01:15 GMT
#3033
Version 9.3 fixed the freeze upon plugin enabling for me. I had the frozen sc2gears when enabling MMRStats on Mac, but it is working now with 9.3.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
May 10 2013 15:28 GMT
#3034
On May 10 2013 06:24 i.of.the.storm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 05:14 korona wrote:
On May 10 2013 04:33 i.of.the.storm wrote:
I just wanted to check this out, seems pretty cool but I haven't been able to download the file since yesterday. Can you mirror it someplace? Thanks!

Edit: You know what, it must be my home internet somehow not having a route to your server. Downloaded fine over 4G on my phone. Weird.

Yes. During last few weeks there has been routing problems from NA. Reason for this is unknown. Maybe some DNS problems with some US ISP...

Mirror of MMR tool v 9.3:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3jdyzs2uc3dgcq9

Mirror of DB file 13.1 (only compatible with v 9.0 or later. Unzip it to [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\ ) :
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?riezgg4mn0y9smk


Ah, I see. What's the DB file for? Didn't see any mention of it in the first post unless I missed something.

The MMR tool normally downloads the latest DB file automatically. But if you cannot reach the web server, then the tool cannot download it.

The DB file contains e.g. the latest league offsets, promotion borders, season start time (actually bonus pool start time that may differ from actual season start), etc. The file is human readable so anyone can check what it contains.
frankfasthands
Profile Joined August 2012
10 Posts
May 10 2013 16:58 GMT
#3035
I've only gotten 1/31 games as good, and the latest updates to both gears and mmr, is that normal with memory reader on? (The one good game came right before the 2.0.8 patch, so I haven't gotten any good games since the update)
wIIKlol
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway30 Posts
May 10 2013 17:02 GMT
#3036
Ive been using this MMR tool for a little while now, Ive been at about 1700-1800 mmr for a long time, was gm last season and played when gm opened, and I did not gm gm, even though I was several houndred points over the gm line, I think you should change it or something cuz its not accurate at all....
If you mess with the best... you die like the rest
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 17:40:35
May 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#3037
On May 11 2013 01:58 frankfasthands wrote:
I've only gotten 1/31 games as good, and the latest updates to both gears and mmr, is that normal with memory reader on? (The one good game came right before the 2.0.8 patch, so I haven't gotten any good games since the update)

It is normal if you are in the capping zone of some non-master division. Leagues are so small that almost bottom half the league MMR range falls into this zone. And as matchmaker primarily pairs you with opponents from your league, you only seldom get non-capped opponents from the lower league.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 18:30:18
May 10 2013 17:49 GMT
#3038
On May 11 2013 02:02 wIIKlol wrote:
Ive been using this MMR tool for a little while now, Ive been at about 1700-1800 mmr for a long time, was gm last season and played when gm opened, and I did not gm gm, even though I was several houndred points over the gm line, I think you should change it or something cuz its not accurate at all....

Can't check your profile as don't know your ID. And if you have not noticed the gm line was updated yesterday to 1690, which is close to values from where people started getting in when GM opened (exact values cannot be determined as don't have enough data, and the border may have risen quite quickly after the first got in. US starting value was little less than 1700 and EU seemed to be around 1700).

Last seasons value (1550) was quite accurate subjective mixing point of master and gm players for end of S12. I believe you referenced it.

Edit: Manually browsed user graphs for all ~2600 characters who have used MMR tool for this season. Characters over current GM line were usually in GM or had not played (won 1v1 game) when GM opened. But at the moment not too many GM level players use the tool. Thus most of the GM MMRs are calculated from those player's games (MMR values for their opponents).
Firebird118
Profile Joined March 2013
United States2 Posts
May 11 2013 23:16 GMT
#3039
How do I install it? I can't seem to figure it out.
I'm talkin bout' bawls deep
NeutraLiTe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States49 Posts
May 11 2013 23:32 GMT
#3040
On May 10 2013 05:14 korona wrote:
During last few weeks there has been routing problems from NA. Reason for this is unknown. Maybe some DNS problems with some US ISP...


Have you considered changing webhosts? The plug-in basically doesn't work for a great number of people in NA due to this issue.
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