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On May 03 2012 05:02 blamekilly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 04:21 SeaSwift wrote:On May 03 2012 04:07 FabledIntegral wrote:On May 03 2012 03:45 SeaSwift wrote:On May 03 2012 03:30 blamekilly wrote:On May 03 2012 02:17 pOnarreT wrote:On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote:
Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice. Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses? Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now. Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless. That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned. Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too. Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups. It was implied. I don't think I needed to point out that terran is stronger early game, isnt that common knowledge? Terran is strong early game, Protoss is pretty much OP late game, but winrate is 50-55% so Blizzard comes to the conclusion that the matchup is balanced. I don't know of an easy fix but I'm also not being paid to look into that kind of thing so it's not my responsibility. The least they could do is acknowledge the problem but they're not. They continue to ignore the problem and pretend it isnt there.
In which case I withdraw my criticism and apologise. We completely agree about this, then.
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Some people take Parting`s playful trash talk too serious. I would bet he is on good terms with MVP. A lot of the koreans pros get along with each other.
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On May 03 2012 05:17 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 04:51 FataLe wrote:
Why are your jimmies so rustled? I mean seriously, we talk about respect, but we forget that these guys are in their teens and are playing video games and we expect them to act the way we want them to? No. People are all different, and that's what makes things interesting. We don't control him and whatever pre conceived notion we have in our heads of how a particular player should act based on his success is just ludacris. Live and let live, he's doing well lately, has the confidence of a 1000 angry Protoss gods and enjoys playing around in interviews. That's a damn interesting player if you ask me, and there should be more like this. I don't give a crap about his manners. All i want to state clearly is that he is noone. He is nothing, and is bragging like he was someone who deserves all this status.
Couldn't be more wrong. He might be mistaken for such though considering his ascent from nobody to one of the most feared protoss in the world happened quite rapidly.
- Debuts in code A in November seemingly embarrassing a fallen Top (no shame for him in retrospect) and quietly working his way into code S on his first run.
- Makes ro8, defeating previous champ Jjakji in two series, topping his ro32 group and only finally meeting his end at the eventual season winner. Not bad for first code S run.
- 2nd run at code S, ro4 and strong favorite to win it all.
He's also done decent to good at foreign events.
Oh yea and....HE'S FUCKING 17! It's called having fun! This is a computer game after all....
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Parting is way too cocky for a guy who has yet to finish on the podium of any major tournament and who didn't accomplish anything at all until protoss got buffed. I hope MVP puts him in his place.
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[QUOTE]On May 02 2012 20:06 storywriter wrote:
I seem to have offended MC but it’s all a misunderstanding. He took care of me like I was his son at MLG. I am really grateful and I love him. I will treat him something nice with my GSL winnings.
Lols cocky PartinG is cocky
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Thanks for the translation. MVP yoohooooooo!
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On May 03 2012 02:21 krell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 02:17 pOnarreT wrote:On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote:
Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice. Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses? Because these differences affect mostly lower-league terrans (Up to GM / high masters.) Professionnal players minimize the effect because they have incredible multi-tasking skills. So we are "Hoping" because it is still possible for MVP to pull it off. It will just be incredibly hard.
Meaning better skills solves TvP woes, reason why MVP 2-0 Naniwa and the other poster HOPING Protoss to win because he knows it is not a sure win as you implied. Non-pro terrans should just admit that they are not in the highest level to talk about balance.
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On May 03 2012 11:33 pOnarreT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 02:21 krell wrote:On May 03 2012 02:17 pOnarreT wrote:On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote:
Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice. Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses? Because these differences affect mostly lower-league terrans (Up to GM / high masters.) Professionnal players minimize the effect because they have incredible multi-tasking skills. So we are "Hoping" because it is still possible for MVP to pull it off. It will just be incredibly hard. Meaning better skills solves TvP woes, reason why MVP 2-0 Naniwa and the other poster HOPING Protoss to win because he knows it is not a sure win as you implied. Non-pro terrans should just admit that they are not in the highest level to talk about balance.
I know this takes your post out of context, but David Kim probably doesn't meet your standards to talk about balance and yet he's done a pretty good job balancing the game since 2/2011. He probably talks about it, too.
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PartinG sure is one little cocky devil.  Makes you always want to root against him come his games vs Mvp,,,
Thanks for the translations, as always!
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The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake,
Actually, the best way to play against him is using the Heart style with heavy 1-2 base play. Parting tends to go greedy in early/mid game.
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On May 03 2012 12:27 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake, Actually, the best way to play against him is using the Heart style with heavy 1-2 base play. Parting tends to go greedy in early/mid game.
But then there's Squirtle's 2 base turtle to 2 collosus push...
But I agree, seems like Heart or Alive's style can kill ST protossers.
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But then there's Squirtle's 2 base turtle to 2 collosus push...
But I agree, seems like Heart or Alive's style can kill ST protossers.
And some aggressive terran builds can hit before the collosi are out or you can get a good scout and have vikings out. Most terrans that fall to the 2 base colo (MMA, I am looking at you!!!) is because they try to take an early third/do not scout robo support bay in time.
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On May 03 2012 12:27 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake, Actually, the best way to play against him is using the Heart style with heavy 1-2 base play. Parting tends to go greedy in early/mid game.
He plays really defensive at the same time though. He has impeccable macro, so the real problem is trying to break through a good position, while stutter stepping your army and macro-ing at the same time. Even the best TvP players (Polt, MKP etc.) and macro Terrans (TheStC) let their macro slip while trying to do this, and this is what lets him come back.
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So sad naniwa lost, but hey losing to mvp is the best way to lose.
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Parting said:
To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
YEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!! :p
Gogogogo MVP!!!
(Edited to add Parting's full quote as it's even more cocky!)
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On May 10 2012 19:49 Azzur wrote:YEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!! :p Gogogogo MVP!!!
tks for bringing this up. I was so pissed at him. you are NOTHING compared to MVP Parting!!
MVP FIGHTING.
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PartinG be mad as hell now.
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My heart says 3:0 but my brain says 3:1.
Damn, he was right.
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On May 03 2012 10:50 red4ce wrote:
Parting is way too cocky for a guy who has yet to finish on the podium of any major tournament and who didn't accomplish anything at all until protoss got buffed. I hope MVP puts him in his place.
Wish come true 
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Parting said:
To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
The cockiness downfall strikes in the next season :p
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