I returned from China yesterday. I thought the match would be physically difficult so I’m glad I had an easy win. This is my first ro4 in a long time so I’m very excited.
You relied heavily on strategy not once but twice. Was it because of your wrist? Some other problem?
I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished. Naniwa is a player who has a risky early game and gets a good economy. Those strategies were a response to that.
Today’s control made it difficult to believe you have a wrist injury. How was it today?
I couldn’t really exert my wrist even in today’s games. It was difficult to mineral boost with my workers at the start. Other than that, it was okay.
Your team and Naniwa have had some run-ins in the past. Did you think about those in your match today?
Not really. I’ve faced foreigners several times in the GSL and never lost once. Since we’re playing on my home soil, I believed that I had the advantage. I think that led to my victory.
Lately, Protosses are on the rise but you keep the Terran pride strong.
Protosses are definitely on the rise. Still, the Terrans that are left are extremely powerful players. There should be at least one more Terran in ro4. I hope the finals is a TvP rather than a PvP.
Your next match is a TvP no matter what. Who do you want to face?
Both players have strong PvT so both are difficult to deal with. Still I prefer Oz to Parting. I feel like I will be more sore about losing to Parting. Parting acts like he’s already won the championship and he’ll probably do a ceremony on me too.
You have secured a spot to win a fourth GSL championship before anyone else.
I’ve fallen in ro4 after my third championship before. Even if I don’t win the championship, I hope I get to walk onto the stage of the finals.
This is your first official win wearing the LG-IM uniform.
This is my first appearance in the uniform and my first win. I am so happy that I won. I think things are looking good for me. It’s a good sign.
Anything to add?
First I want to thank our newest sponsor LG electronics. I also want to thank Nvidia, SteelSeries, Coca cola, Googims. I will play even harder to promote these sponsors. I was able to win because my teammates Anyppi and Ready practised a lot with me before I left for China. I want to thank them both.
StartaleParting (T/N: interview from TiG, img from Leveltory since TiG used an old one. Interviews are almost identical anyway. Also Parting is a troll)
Similar to what I said in the ro8 interview, it’s just like a dream. As I got ready for today’s match, I remembered losing to DRG in ro8 of last season. That defeat saddened me so much that DRG appeared in my dreams afterwards. I practised hard so I wouldn’t have a repeat of that and won with luck on my side.
Unexpectedly, you had a landslide victory of 3:0. If you were to evaluate today’s match?
If I were somewhat arrogant last season, I fixed that after my loss in ro8. I changed my mindset after the defeat in ro8 and subsequent losses in the GSTL. I dug deep and thought about all the practice I had to go through to get where I am. I think that is why I won.
The opponent took his expansion before you in Set 1. Did you anticipate that?
Not at all. However, I’ve used such a build myself and practised it too. So I just played based on those experiences and it worked out.
Set 2 wasn’t favourable but as your two immortals kept the stalkers busy, you were able to attack an empty base and win.
Each player has their own style of army control. I focused solely on the immortals. I set all the other units on attack move and controlled the immortals while watching the opponent’s stalkers. It seemed like my opponent was going to take out my immortals before defending. It was partly planned.
Your ro4 opponent is the three time champion IMMVP
To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
MVP mentioned your attitude in his interview and even predicted that you would pull off a ceremony on him.
I plan to save the ceremonies for more interesting players like MC. If I get really excited, I will do one. I don’t feel like I acted too over the top but other people seem to think so. I guess I was a little arrogant but it wasn’t to the level of acting like a champion (laugh). I do resent that statement. That’s also not to say that I will become even more arrogant if I win the championship.
If you had to predict your ro4 score?
My heart says 3:0 but my brain says 3:1. Since it is King MVP after all.
Depending on how the bracket works out, you may have to teamkill Squirtle. Is that possible?
Even if I don’t get to the finals, Squirtle definitely will. I’ve always said that Squirtle is the one best Protoss but his potential just didn’t become realised. Now that he’s showing his true self, he will get to the finals. If I don’t make the finals, this is his GSL. However, if I do, I’m sorry to Squirtle but I will win 4:3.
Anything to add?
I want to thank Ace and Tiger for practice. I also want to thank Genius, Seed, Anyppi, Mentalist and Soulman as well as Finaleand Vampire for their advice. I want to thank Red Bull, Zowie Gear and BenQ as well as DigiTech High School which supports progaming. Also, last time, I seem to have offended MC but it’s all a misunderstanding. He took care of me like I was his son at MLG. I am really grateful and I love him. I will treat him something nice with my GSL winnings.
Hahaha Parting's swagger really seems to get under peoples skin though, first MC and now MVP brings it up =p
So happy the king won, good game planning to deal with Nani being greedy, and with the added advantage that ending games early puts less stress on his wrists.
On May 02 2012 20:12 eYeball wrote: MVP is a really smart player, probably one of the best when it comes to preparing and such I feel! GL against PartinG!
Yeah, Contrary to the QQ'ers belief that Mvp such a coward by cheesing. It is because he knows that Naniwa likes to take early risk and that take note that his wrist is not fully healed yet so why would he give up the fact that he can abuse naniwa's opener and risk a lategame where his wrist could not hold up
yeah, gotta say, all of IM's sponsors are insanely high profile companies with very deep pockets. No other team has such a line up of sponsors in Korea (and i should know since I've read all the lists several times while translating)
Read Naniwa like a book, in the same way to his PvZ FFE or die trying mentality it's the same for him wanting to nexus first when he can and cut other corners. When he beat NesTea at MLG Arena 1 it was only because he mixed it up with a proxy 2 gate vs a hatch first he won (NesTea assumed Naniwa would be greedy).
Could almost call him the Protoss IdrA, he wants to win a "proper" macro game and will take risks to get to that stage of the game ahead.
On May 02 2012 20:23 MVTaylor wrote: Read Naniwa like a book, in the same way to his PvZ FFE or die trying mentality it's the same for him wanting to nexus first when he can and cut other corners. When he beat NesTea at MLG Arena 1 it was only because he mixed it up with a proxy 2 gate vs a hatch first he won (NesTea assumed Naniwa would be greedy).
Could almost call him the Protoss IdrA, he wants to win a "proper" macro game and will take risks to get to that stage of the game ahead.
I think Naniwa had prepared builds per map but wasn't prepared for MVP's to all in. Naniwa wasn't flexible enough.
On May 02 2012 20:23 MVTaylor wrote: Read Naniwa like a book, in the same way to his PvZ FFE or die trying mentality it's the same for him wanting to nexus first when he can and cut other corners. When he beat NesTea at MLG Arena 1 it was only because he mixed it up with a proxy 2 gate vs a hatch first he won (NesTea assumed Naniwa would be greedy).
Could almost call him the Protoss IdrA, he wants to win a "proper" macro game and will take risks to get to that stage of the game ahead.
I think Naniwa had prepared builds per map but wasn't prepared for MVP's to all in. Naniwa wasn't flexible enough.
Leenock punished Naniwa almost the exact same way in Providence. You are right on Nani not being flexible. Nani is pretty bad on adapting to the situation.
On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote: IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before
Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly.
Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO.
Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?).
I love how so many nerds in the LR think MVP is scared to play a late game when in fact he is just playing the player. This is MVP people, he is a macro beast, even with bad wrists.
yeah, gotta say, all of IM's sponsors are insanely high profile companies with very deep pockets. No other team has such a line up of sponsors in Korea (and i should know since I've read all the lists several times while translating)
Well, they do have 6 GSL titles...
oGs - 2 (since MC won them while at oGs) Slayers - 2 ST - 1 MVP - 1 NSHS - 1 Prime - 1 (Polt)
As for the remarks vs PartinG, I think it has to do with the fact that a lot of people are hyping PartinG as the Best player/Protoss in the world. Don't get me wrong, he is playing great and does look dominate. But he also hasn't placed higher than 5th in ANY big tournament (well, he will at least get 4th this GSL). Will he get nervous and choke when he gets to ro4/finals? So I think many of the players are like 'Let's wait till he wins something before we crown him'.
On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote: IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before
Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly.
Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO.
Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?).
MVP usually can get whoever he wants for practice partner, but in this case MKP won't be helping him, because MKP and parting were literally inseparable at MLG
yeah, gotta say, all of IM's sponsors are insanely high profile companies with very deep pockets. No other team has such a line up of sponsors in Korea (and i should know since I've read all the lists several times while translating)
Well, they do have 6 GSL titles...
oGs - 2 (since MC won them while at oGs) Slayers - 2 ST - 1 MVP - 1 NSHS - 1 Prime - 1 (Polt)
As for the remarks vs PartinG, I think it has to do with the fact that a lot of people are hyping PartinG as the Best player/Protoss in the world. Don't get me wrong, he is playing great and does look dominate. But he also hasn't placed higher than 5th in ANY big tournament (well, he will at least get 4th this GSL). Will he get nervous and choke when he gets to ro4/finals? So I think many of the players are like 'Let's wait till he wins something before we crown him'.
I hope this isn't the case, but it's easy for MKP to be friendly when he is the one winning. Things may have changed in their relationship since then.
I am not sure. Most of the Koreans seem to be pretty friendly with each other. And I don't think the relationship is where if you are friends with player X, you won't practice or help with another friend who will be playing player X. PartinG's interview kind of illustrated this. It was pretty obvious that MVP (and thus IM) wanted Oz to win vs PartinG. But you still saw that Anyppi, Seed practiced with PartinG. Obviously, things like revealing strategies and whatnot is a big no-no. But practicing in general is probably not restricted.
Parting certainly is kinda arrogant imo. Saying that he will reserve the ceremonies to MORE INTERESTING PLAYERS like MC, seems that he thinks of Mvp as another terran. Does he forgoten already that MVP was one of the most consistent players and just been in a slump because of his wrists? I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote: IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before
Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly.
Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO.
Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?).
MVP usually can get whoever he wants for practice partner, but in this case MKP won't be helping him, because MKP and parting were literally inseparable at MLG
That doesn't really make much sense, given MKP's comments about the StarTale team being 'cold' to him after the GSTL finals.
On May 02 2012 20:55 Ace1123 wrote: Mvp certainly is kinda arrogant imo. Saying that he will reserve the ceremonies to MORE INTERESTING PLAYERS like MC, seems that he thinks of Mvp as another terran. Does he forgoten already that MVP was one of the most consistent players and just been in a slump because of his wrists? I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
Hmm... I feel like there should be a few less Mvp's in this post.
On May 02 2012 20:55 Ace1123 wrote: Mvp certainly is kinda arrogant imo. Saying that he will reserve the ceremonies to MORE INTERESTING PLAYERS like MC, seems that he thinks of Mvp as another terran. Does he forgoten already that MVP was one of the most consistent players and just been in a slump because of his wrists? I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
Sorry but Mvp's achievements have little to do with his tvp abilities.
On May 02 2012 20:55 Ace1123 wrote: Mvp certainly is kinda arrogant imo. Saying that he will reserve the ceremonies to MORE INTERESTING PLAYERS like MC, seems that he thinks of Mvp as another terran. Does he forgoten already that MVP was one of the most consistent players and just been in a slump because of his wrists? I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
Mvp certainly is kinda arrogant imo. Saying that he will reserve the ceremonies to MORE INTERESTING PLAYERS like MC, seems that he thinks of Mvp as another terran. Does he forgoten already that MVP was one of the most consistent players and just been in a slump because of his wrists? I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
I don't think PartinG is really disrespecting MVP. He did call him King MVP. I think when he meant by 'interesting' when he refers to MC is that MC is very emotional as well. So it is probably more satisfying to do ceremonies vs MC. MVP is more reserved so doing ceremonies to him will probably be 'strange'. As for the another terran comment, I think that is due to PartinGs supreme confidence vs terrans.
On May 02 2012 20:55 Ace1123 wrote: Parting certainly is kinda arrogant imo. Saying that he will reserve the ceremonies to MORE INTERESTING PLAYERS like MC, seems that he thinks of Mvp as another terran. Does he forgoten already that MVP was one of the most consistent players and just been in a slump because of his wrists? I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
Your hopes will be crushed together like other terrans, im very sure. And i doubt he meant that way - more interesting players. He kinda means those players who provoke him back.
I hope this isn't the case, but it's easy for MKP to be friendly when he is the one winning. Things may have changed in their relationship since then.
I am not sure. Most of the Koreans seem to be pretty friendly with each other. And I don't think the relationship is where if you are friends with player X, you won't practice or help with another friend who will be playing player X.
if that happens there's going to be a fine line of what you actually reveal to the people you help i.e. MKP telling parting what builds he discussed with MVP, and by the mannerisms at MLG and twitter pictures it seems like MKP and parting are best buds right now.
anyways its just all speculation and i'm sure they'll get enough practice either way
Very nice translations, so fast ><. Thanks very much, can't wait to catch the VODs. It should be an interesting matchup but I think PartinG will end up taking it
On May 02 2012 20:43 Chodes wrote: MVP has lost to foreigners before. GSTL where qxc all-killed IM
He's obviously talking about GSL.
Wow how perceptive you must be. If he can make a blanket statement, I can only make a blanket assumption
Also as a reference looking through his match history. Other then beating Nani he only had 2 matches against foreigners. Both of which were wins. Huk in GSL Aug Idra in Open season 2
I hope this isn't the case, but it's easy for MKP to be friendly when he is the one winning. Things may have changed in their relationship since then.
I am not sure. Most of the Koreans seem to be pretty friendly with each other. And I don't think the relationship is where if you are friends with player X, you won't practice or help with another friend who will be playing player X.
if that happens there's going to be a fine line of what you actually reveal to the people you help i.e. MKP telling parting what builds he discussed with MVP, and by the mannerisms at MLG and twitter pictures it seems like MKP and parting are best buds right now.
anyways its just all speculation and i'm sure they'll get enough practice either way
When you cheese one time, you can say you outsmarted your opponent on that particular map. If you do all the time, you are either bad or you feel there's no way to win if the game lasts (or at least you have better chances). And I don't think MVP is a bad player.
His injuries didn't allow us to watch an amazing RO8 series and thus I'm so dissapointed.
Come on MVP! I really hope his wrists hold out when it come to the RO4. Knew that his marine all-ins were as a result of Naniwa being worked out, the exact same thing happened with Naniwa vs Leenock at MLG
I was able to win because my teammates Anyppi and Ready practised a lot with me before I left for China. I want to thank them both.
Woah woah woah, what the fuck? Anyppi made the switch to SC2 and I didn't know about it
Yup was a while back, he's IMFirst now or something. There was a thread on it, IM released some team pictures and Anyppi's faces were blocked out
Yes, his ID is IM.First. He already tried to qualify for code A, but got stopped dead in his tracks by TSL.Hyun, who himself got stopped by TSL.Revival iirc.
I was able to win because my teammates Anyppi and Ready practised a lot with me before I left for China. I want to thank them both.
Woah woah woah, what the fuck? Anyppi made the switch to SC2 and I didn't know about it
Yup was a while back, he's IMFirst now or something. There was a thread on it, IM released some team pictures and Anyppi's faces were blocked out
Yes, his ID is IM.First. He already tried to qualify for code A, but got stopped dead in his tracks by TSL.Hyun, who himself got stopped by TSL.Revival iirc.
On May 02 2012 21:11 xN.07)MaK wrote: When you cheese one time, you can say you outsmarted your opponent on that particular map. If you do all the time, you are either bad or you feel there's no way to win if the game lasts (or at least you have better chances). And I don't think MVP is a bad player.
His injuries didn't allow us to watch an amazing RO8 series and thus I'm so dissapointed.
If someone is predictable and doesn't adapt, you can exploit them every match. It's not about being afraid, its about punishing greed.
Did you not see Leenock dominate Naniwa at Providence? I'm sure Mvp had a similar idea in mind.
Is it odd that I still like PartinG after the interview?
Sure he sounds kind of cocky and flippant but I feel it's just him having fun and not thinking too hard to be PC.
Like he sounds a certain way in some of these after the winning high interviews and on camera, but most of the photos of him taken more candidly have him being companionable and happy with various other pro-gamers complete with lots of hanging off of various body parts and smiling. I feel that the two images of him are not quite adding up.
On May 02 2012 21:45 XinAn wrote: Is it odd that I still like PartinG after the interview?
Sure he sounds kind of cocky and flippant but I feel it's just him having fun and not thinking too hard to be PC.
Like he sounds a certain way in some of these after the winning high interviews and on camera, but most of the photos of him taken more candidly have him being companionable and happy with various other pro-gamers complete with lots of hanging off of various body parts and smiling. I feel that the two images of him are not quite adding up.
Not at all. MC has sounded like that plenty of times, but always gave the impression he was a good guy url.
Even if I don’t get to the finals, Squirtle definitely will. I’ve always said that Squirtle is the one best Protoss but his potential just didn’t become realised. Now that he’s showing his true self, he will get to the finals.
Wow great minds think alike it seems! I've always said that too! ^_^
Though that next part that I left unquoted just isn't true Parting! ~_^
On May 02 2012 21:45 XinAn wrote: Is it odd that I still like PartinG after the interview?
Sure he sounds kind of cocky and flippant but I feel it's just him having fun and not thinking too hard to be PC.
Like he sounds a certain way in some of these after the winning high interviews and on camera, but most of the photos of him taken more candidly have him being companionable and happy with various other pro-gamers complete with lots of hanging off of various body parts and smiling. I feel that the two images of him are not quite adding up.
No, I like players to have personalities. If players were all the same boring well-mannered drones a lot of people seem to want, then how would any of us pick favorites? Just go by win percentages I guess, which is how a lot of people do it, but that's pretty boring.
What match and ceremony did parting do to annoy MC?? I've never seen him act arrogant unless he's the guy that does the premature celebrations in the team league?
I think that the 100% at 9 mins is really deceptive. Firstly, Parting hasn't had too many games in GSL and so the number of games below 9 mins might be only 2-3. Also, there are games where one player already took critical damage early but just took time to end. For example, only 1 of the mvp/naniwa games today was actually finished at the 9 minute mark.
Parting also recently got 3-0 but Sound in short games including 1-1-1, failed all-in. Of course, it wasn't GSL and other factors are in play. Not saying PartinG is not strong early game, just saying not to put too much emphasis on that 100%.
Wow, i didnt like Partings interview at all. To be cocky against the allmighty can be fatal. I'm looking so bad for that next Protoss champion. Would be nice, if Parting or Squirtle not only win this GSL but get the next 2 time champion in the next season to prove consistency. I know chances are slim, but one may dream
Also interesting that Parting sees Squirtle as the real deal. I wonder if he's just humble but then again that doesn't fit with Parting
For crying out loud MVP, PLEASE GET YOUR WRISTS FIXED. It hurts my soul just to read about how you have to play through pain. Now that GSLs are 2 months long, you'll only have to miss like 1 season to get the work done and recover. Think long-term man! You've already made enough dough to last you a long while.
Your ro4 opponent is the three time champion IMMVP
To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
Good reason to be cocky though, he stands a very good chance of winning this season and topping his ro8 last season despite being pretty much unknown prior to that. This may be the first gsl final I don't bother watching live, what with the expectation of a pvp final. Maybe if herO is in it just to see a TL member in the finals.
On May 03 2012 01:10 krell wrote: I almost hope that MVP does not take a game off parting. Perhaps it will finally convince blizz that something needs to be done about lategame TvP.
If you have to hope against MVP winning, then maybe it's not as broken as you think.
On May 03 2012 01:25 Kubricks wrote: Mvp is going to ruin Parting.
Parting is not Naniwa and will fall to silly cheese attemps that often in a row. I'm quite disappointed by Naniwa. Losing to superior skill is ok, losing to cheese is just unnecessary.
Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
If you actually check Parting's interactions with sunbae (senior) players he's pretty respectful to them. The arrogant antics seem to be all for show and all for entertainment. Other players have fun teasing and jokingly scolding him about it too it seems.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because these differences affect mostly lower-league terrans (Up to GM / high masters.) Professionnal players minimize the effect because they have incredible multi-tasking skills. So we are "Hoping" because it is still possible for MVP to pull it off. It will just be incredibly hard.
Lol, I really found Parting's interview and swagger hilarious, hope to hear more! Either Parting or MVP winning will make a good finals so long as it is a PvT final in the end!
On May 03 2012 02:22 Coal wrote: Sup with all the hate on Parting? I think he's hilarious ^_^
People also think that about Idra and Destiny...
...You can't be serious comparing Parting to those two.
No, I just wanted to point out that some people have a very weird sense of humor. But I also think, that they are overreacting. Yes Parting is a bit cocky, but he is probably just fooling around. No way he would actually disrespect the king.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Parting's attitude is so annoying. I really he meets MKP next season and MarineKing plays well so he gets trashed like all the times except for the ro16
Parting interview is awesome, nice to have players that are not afraid to be cocky and don't go for the easy answer (i won because i practiced a lot, i want to show good games etc..). Can't believe some people are mad about that ^^.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless.
That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless.
That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned.
Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too.
Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless.
That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned.
Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too.
Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups.
On May 03 2012 03:42 Jetaap wrote: Parting interview is awesome, nice to have players that are not afraid to be cocky and don't go for the easy answer (i won because i practiced a lot, i want to show good games etc..). Can't believe some people are mad about that ^^.
Couldn't of said it better, I'm rooting on him to go all the way!!
On May 03 2012 02:22 Coal wrote: Sup with all the hate on Parting? I think he's hilarious ^_^
that's called manner. Although he is hilarious he is gonna play with a 3x GSL winner. And who the hell is he? Just a random who is finally doing something, and now wants to brag about his ownage.
I have to agree, you shouldn't be able to talk shit until you win something... Parting hasn't won anything from my knowledge. There were a ton of players at their peak who looked soooo much more dominating than parting but did not brag until they won the championsip mainly Nestea, MVP, MC... If parting does win this one, I highly doubt he will win another followup because to me he seems like a PVT specialist only.
On May 03 2012 02:22 Coal wrote: Sup with all the hate on Parting? I think he's hilarious ^_^
that's called manner. Although he is hilarious he is gonna play with a 3x GSL winner. And who the hell is he? Just a random who is finally doing something, and now wants to brag about his ownage.
He should go get 3x champs before talking shit.
Why are your jimmies so rustled? I mean seriously, we talk about respect, but we forget that these guys are in their teens and are playing video games and we expect them to act the way we want them to? No. People are all different, and that's what makes things interesting. We don't control him and whatever pre conceived notion we have in our heads of how a particular player should act based on his success is just ludacris. Live and let live, he's doing well lately, has the confidence of a 1000 angry Protoss gods and enjoys playing around in interviews. That's a damn interesting player if you ask me, and there should be more like this.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless.
That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned.
Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too.
Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups.
It was implied. I don't think I needed to point out that terran is stronger early game, isnt that common knowledge? Terran is strong early game, Protoss is pretty much OP late game, but winrate is 50-55% so Blizzard comes to the conclusion that the matchup is balanced. I don't know of an easy fix but I'm also not being paid to look into that kind of thing so it's not my responsibility. The least they could do is acknowledge the problem but they're not. They continue to ignore the problem and pretend it isnt there.
Why are your jimmies so rustled? I mean seriously, we talk about respect, but we forget that these guys are in their teens and are playing video games and we expect them to act the way we want them to? No. People are all different, and that's what makes things interesting. We don't control him and whatever pre conceived notion we have in our heads of how a particular player should act based on his success is just ludacris. Live and let live, he's doing well lately, has the confidence of a 1000 angry Protoss gods and enjoys playing around in interviews. That's a damn interesting player if you ask me, and there should be more like this.
I don't give a crap about his manners. All i want to state clearly is that he is noone. He is nothing, and is bragging like he was someone who deserves all this status.
On May 03 2012 05:14 Dfgj wrote: Some people in this thread would have heart attacks if they were exposed to people like FBH.
Seriously.
Whoever calls Parting a random "nobody" needs to get their head checked. Anyone who makes Ro4 GSL is not a nobody, lol.
Doesn't matter, 'cause Squirtle's gonna win this GSL anyways. ^^
DRG is around the same level as cockiness as Parting anyways; if you'd read any of DRG's earlier interviews back before he could even make it in the GSL and had to get seeded in, they pretty much read the exact same ("Terrans = free meal" sounds very similar to what DRG was going on about), and yet everyone loves DRG.
On May 03 2012 05:56 Dodgin wrote: You guys know that Parting only trash talks in the interviews for the fans, right? He's not actually that cocky.
He's probably not scared of Mvp but he's not going to take him lightly either.
Yeah, consider this like the trashtalk you hear coming out of Genius, for instance. No need to take it too seriously. The kid's 17, on the run of his life, and is actually (from what I can tell) less cocky and legitimately shy but also high on victory right now.
After you run a truly hellish PvT gamut of Polt, MKP, Jjakji, Taeja, StC, I wouldn't be scared of any Terrans either, especially when MVP's in such bad condition. (For those who don't know, MVP actually lost 1-2 to Moon in a LAN at China this past week.) The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake, but it is unfortunately very APM-intensive; I don't doubt MVP's multitasking, but I doubt his wrists. Third, Parting plays such a unique style that it's difficult to replicate in practice (as opposed to playing Squirtle, for instance, whose style is much more of the typical timing-based style); Oz tried to play Parting-style, and it almost ruined him. Not to mention, Parting's shown that he's not averse to playing other styles as well, which makes it difficult to predict exactly what he'll pull out of his hat, whereas MVP is pretty much restricted to early cheese or late-game-macro machine to take him out, and I'm not sure Parting is beatable in late-game if your wrists aren't up for some heavy-duty micro and APM-intensive bio control.
Also, I wish Keen would step up with some FBH-ceremonies, but fuck it, he keeps losing or not doing ceremonies anymore. Now that NaDa's out ... maybe we'll get somewhere on SC2 ceremonies.
On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote: IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before
Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly.
Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO.
Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?).
MVP usually can get whoever he wants for practice partner, but in this case MKP won't be helping him, because MKP and parting were literally inseparable at MLG
That doesn't really make much sense, given MKP's comments about the StarTale team being 'cold' to him after the GSTL finals.
It doesn't seem to be the thing that you would hold a grudge over though, I mean come on if you played for StarTale and then your player was winning and suddenly a disc happens you are gonna be pissed, it was literally about 12 hours after the finals happened(or maybe even shorter than that) and I think its all good now
On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote: IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before
Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly.
Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO.
Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?).
MVP usually can get whoever he wants for practice partner, but in this case MKP won't be helping him, because MKP and parting were literally inseparable at MLG
That doesn't really make much sense, given MKP's comments about the StarTale team being 'cold' to him after the GSTL finals.
It doesn't seem to be the thing that you would hold a grudge over though, I mean come on if you played for StarTale and then your player was winning and suddenly a disc happens you are gonna be pissed, it was literally about 12 hours after the finals happened(or maybe even shorter than that) and I think its all good now
Even if STQ and Prime are still pissed at each other, if MKP really cares about mending fences like he said, then this would actually be a very good opportunity for MKP to help bridge the gap by helping Parting practice TvP for his match vs MVP.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now.
Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless.
That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned.
Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too.
Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups.
It was implied. I don't think I needed to point out that terran is stronger early game, isnt that common knowledge? Terran is strong early game, Protoss is pretty much OP late game, but winrate is 50-55% so Blizzard comes to the conclusion that the matchup is balanced. I don't know of an easy fix but I'm also not being paid to look into that kind of thing so it's not my responsibility. The least they could do is acknowledge the problem but they're not. They continue to ignore the problem and pretend it isnt there.
In which case I withdraw my criticism and apologise. We completely agree about this, then.
Some people take Parting`s playful trash talk too serious. I would bet he is on good terms with MVP. A lot of the koreans pros get along with each other.
Why are your jimmies so rustled? I mean seriously, we talk about respect, but we forget that these guys are in their teens and are playing video games and we expect them to act the way we want them to? No. People are all different, and that's what makes things interesting. We don't control him and whatever pre conceived notion we have in our heads of how a particular player should act based on his success is just ludacris. Live and let live, he's doing well lately, has the confidence of a 1000 angry Protoss gods and enjoys playing around in interviews. That's a damn interesting player if you ask me, and there should be more like this.
I don't give a crap about his manners. All i want to state clearly is that he is noone. He is nothing, and is bragging like he was someone who deserves all this status.
Couldn't be more wrong. He might be mistaken for such though considering his ascent from nobody to one of the most feared protoss in the world happened quite rapidly.
- Debuts in code A in November seemingly embarrassing a fallen Top (no shame for him in retrospect) and quietly working his way into code S on his first run.
- Makes ro8, defeating previous champ Jjakji in two series, topping his ro32 group and only finally meeting his end at the eventual season winner. Not bad for first code S run.
- 2nd run at code S, ro4 and strong favorite to win it all.
He's also done decent to good at foreign events.
Oh yea and....HE'S FUCKING 17! It's called having fun! This is a computer game after all....
Parting is way too cocky for a guy who has yet to finish on the podium of any major tournament and who didn't accomplish anything at all until protoss got buffed. I hope MVP puts him in his place.
I seem to have offended MC but it’s all a misunderstanding. He took care of me like I was his son at MLG. I am really grateful and I love him. I will treat him something nice with my GSL winnings.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because these differences affect mostly lower-league terrans (Up to GM / high masters.) Professionnal players minimize the effect because they have incredible multi-tasking skills. So we are "Hoping" because it is still possible for MVP to pull it off. It will just be incredibly hard.
Meaning better skills solves TvP woes, reason why MVP 2-0 Naniwa and the other poster HOPING Protoss to win because he knows it is not a sure win as you implied. Non-pro terrans should just admit that they are not in the highest level to talk about balance.
On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote: Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice.
Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses?
Because these differences affect mostly lower-league terrans (Up to GM / high masters.) Professionnal players minimize the effect because they have incredible multi-tasking skills. So we are "Hoping" because it is still possible for MVP to pull it off. It will just be incredibly hard.
Meaning better skills solves TvP woes, reason why MVP 2-0 Naniwa and the other poster HOPING Protoss to win because he knows it is not a sure win as you implied. Non-pro terrans should just admit that they are not in the highest level to talk about balance.
I know this takes your post out of context, but David Kim probably doesn't meet your standards to talk about balance and yet he's done a pretty good job balancing the game since 2/2011. He probably talks about it, too.
The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake,
Actually, the best way to play against him is using the Heart style with heavy 1-2 base play. Parting tends to go greedy in early/mid game.
The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake,
Actually, the best way to play against him is using the Heart style with heavy 1-2 base play. Parting tends to go greedy in early/mid game.
But then there's Squirtle's 2 base turtle to 2 collosus push... But I agree, seems like Heart or Alive's style can kill ST protossers.
But then there's Squirtle's 2 base turtle to 2 collosus push... But I agree, seems like Heart or Alive's style can kill ST protossers.
And some aggressive terran builds can hit before the collosi are out or you can get a good scout and have vikings out. Most terrans that fall to the 2 base colo (MMA, I am looking at you!!!) is because they try to take an early third/do not scout robo support bay in time.
The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake,
Actually, the best way to play against him is using the Heart style with heavy 1-2 base play. Parting tends to go greedy in early/mid game.
He plays really defensive at the same time though. He has impeccable macro, so the real problem is trying to break through a good position, while stutter stepping your army and macro-ing at the same time. Even the best TvP players (Polt, MKP etc.) and macro Terrans (TheStC) let their macro slip while trying to do this, and this is what lets him come back.
Parting said: To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
YEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!! :p
Gogogogo MVP!!!
(Edited to add Parting's full quote as it's even more cocky!)
On May 03 2012 10:50 red4ce wrote: Parting is way too cocky for a guy who has yet to finish on the podium of any major tournament and who didn't accomplish anything at all until protoss got buffed. I hope MVP puts him in his place.
Parting said: To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
The cockiness downfall strikes in the next season :p
Parting said: To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
Parting said: To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
The cockiness downfall strikes in the next season
Damn, are you a woman?
Cockiness and overconfidence is deservedly mocked
Too bad it's pretty hard for Parting fans to accept this though
Parting said: To be honest, he’s just another Terran to me. Terrans are a free meal to me and that’s the case for whomever. So I don’t care. I feel like I must get to the finals so that I don’t shame the players I have beaten so far.
The cockiness downfall strikes in the next season
Damn, are you a woman?
Cockiness and overconfidence is deservedly mocked
Too bad it's pretty hard for Parting fans to accept this though
People seem to have trouble discerning between honesty and trolling.
View almost any Parting interview in the GSL. Match related or not. He's constantly trolling.
EPT
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I hope Mvp beat this guy and prove that he is one of those interesting player :/
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