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On May 03 2012 04:21 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 04:07 FabledIntegral wrote:On May 03 2012 03:45 SeaSwift wrote:On May 03 2012 03:30 blamekilly wrote:On May 03 2012 02:17 pOnarreT wrote:On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote:
Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice. Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses? Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now. Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless. That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned. Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too. Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups.
I know, I was just commenting. =/
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On May 03 2012 03:42 Jetaap wrote:
Parting interview is awesome, nice to have players that are not afraid to be cocky and don't go for the easy answer (i won because i practiced a lot, i want to show good games etc..).
Can't believe some people are mad about that ^^.
Couldn't of said it better, I'm rooting on him to go all the way!!
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Parting is frickin hilarious!!! Excited to see more of him in subsequent seasons, no matter what happens vs MVP!
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On May 03 2012 02:22 Coal wrote:
Sup with all the hate on Parting? I think he's hilarious ^_^
that's called manner. Although he is hilarious he is gonna play with a 3x GSL winner. And who the hell is he? Just a random who is finally doing something, and now wants to brag about his ownage.
He should go get 3x champs before talking shit.
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I have to agree, you shouldn't be able to talk shit until you win something... Parting hasn't won anything from my knowledge. There were a ton of players at their peak who looked soooo much more dominating than parting but did not brag until they won the championsip mainly Nestea, MVP, MC... If parting does win this one, I highly doubt he will win another followup because to me he seems like a PVT specialist only.
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On May 03 2012 04:30 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 02:22 Coal wrote:
Sup with all the hate on Parting? I think he's hilarious ^_^ that's called manner. Although he is hilarious he is gonna play with a 3x GSL winner. And who the hell is he? Just a random who is finally doing something, and now wants to brag about his ownage. He should go get 3x champs before talking shit.
Why are your jimmies so rustled? I mean seriously, we talk about respect, but we forget that these guys are in their teens and are playing video games and we expect them to act the way we want them to? No. People are all different, and that's what makes things interesting. We don't control him and whatever pre conceived notion we have in our heads of how a particular player should act based on his success is just ludacris. Live and let live, he's doing well lately, has the confidence of a 1000 angry Protoss gods and enjoys playing around in interviews. That's a damn interesting player if you ask me, and there should be more like this.
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On May 03 2012 04:21 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 04:07 FabledIntegral wrote:On May 03 2012 03:45 SeaSwift wrote:On May 03 2012 03:30 blamekilly wrote:On May 03 2012 02:17 pOnarreT wrote:On May 03 2012 01:48 blamekilly wrote:
Players like MC and Bomber show their cockiness but they also show respect to their opponents and have lots of fun with it, especially MC. Parting is just cocky and arrogant. He hasn't won jack and he's already disrespecting MVP and sarcastically calling him King MVP. You don't have to kiss his butt or anything but at least show a little respect kid.
I want MVP to put him in his place but I also want Blizzard to address the PvT late game issue. I'm secretly hoping all the Protoss wins their matches from here on out because that's the only way Blizzard will take notice. Why do you need to hope if you think PvT has problems? Don't you think this should be a sure win for Protosses? Because if you bothered to read carefully, you would see I said PvT late game. There is a PvT late game issue but Blizzard is ignoring it because the say the match up is balanced right now. Surely if the matchup is overall balanced (look at the winrates) and yet Protoss is overpowered lategame, the conclusion from that is that Terran is either a) overpowered early game to compensate, or b) good enough to end the game before lategame with a ~50% winrate regardless. That's the point. It means Terran is strong early game. Basically though all the Terrans that dont' allin and like to go for macro games, or simply nonoriented timing attacks by getting an econ advantage instead, get boned. Well, the guy I was responding to was complaining about Protoss lategame without making the logical step about the Terran earlygame flaws too. Unfortunately, the game isn't as simple as blamekilly seems to think it is. Simple buffs or nerfs big enough to impact lategame imbalance or earlygame imbalance will have pretty huge effects on strategies and on other matchups.
It was implied. I don't think I needed to point out that terran is stronger early game, isnt that common knowledge? Terran is strong early game, Protoss is pretty much OP late game, but winrate is 50-55% so Blizzard comes to the conclusion that the matchup is balanced. I don't know of an easy fix but I'm also not being paid to look into that kind of thing so it's not my responsibility. The least they could do is acknowledge the problem but they're not. They continue to ignore the problem and pretend it isnt there.
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Some people in this thread would have heart attacks if they were exposed to people like FBH.
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On May 03 2012 04:51 FataLe wrote:
Why are your jimmies so rustled? I mean seriously, we talk about respect, but we forget that these guys are in their teens and are playing video games and we expect them to act the way we want them to? No. People are all different, and that's what makes things interesting. We don't control him and whatever pre conceived notion we have in our heads of how a particular player should act based on his success is just ludacris. Live and let live, he's doing well lately, has the confidence of a 1000 angry Protoss gods and enjoys playing around in interviews. That's a damn interesting player if you ask me, and there should be more like this.
I don't give a crap about his manners. All i want to state clearly is that he is noone. He is nothing, and is bragging like he was someone who deserves all this status.
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On May 03 2012 05:14 Dfgj wrote:
Some people in this thread would have heart attacks if they were exposed to people like FBH.
Seriously.
Whoever calls Parting a random "nobody" needs to get their head checked. Anyone who makes Ro4 GSL is not a nobody, lol.
Doesn't matter, 'cause Squirtle's gonna win this GSL anyways. ^^
DRG is around the same level as cockiness as Parting anyways; if you'd read any of DRG's earlier interviews back before he could even make it in the GSL and had to get seeded in, they pretty much read the exact same ("Terrans = free meal" sounds very similar to what DRG was going on about), and yet everyone loves DRG.
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when did IM get sponsored by Nvidia?
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What is this foolishness. King MVP needs to smite this fool and makes him learn his place!
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You guys know that Parting only trash talks in the interviews for the fans, right? He's not actually that cocky.
He's probably not scared of Mvp but he's not going to take him lightly either.
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On May 03 2012 05:14 Dfgj wrote:
Some people in this thread would have heart attacks if they were exposed to people like FBH.
Haha, so true. I can hardly wait until SC2 gets its own FBH.
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On May 03 2012 05:56 Dodgin wrote:
You guys know that Parting only trash talks in the interviews for the fans, right? He's not actually that cocky.
He's probably not scared of Mvp but he's not going to take him lightly either.
Yeah, consider this like the trashtalk you hear coming out of Genius, for instance. No need to take it too seriously. The kid's 17, on the run of his life, and is actually (from what I can tell) less cocky and legitimately shy but also high on victory right now.
After you run a truly hellish PvT gamut of Polt, MKP, Jjakji, Taeja, StC, I wouldn't be scared of any Terrans either, especially when MVP's in such bad condition. (For those who don't know, MVP actually lost 1-2 to Moon in a LAN at China this past week.) The problem MVP will have in preparing against Parting is, first, that Parting doesn't seem to die early-game, and he will roll you late-game. Second, the best way to play against him is probably the MKP/Polt-style of constant high-pressure to force him to make a mistake, but it is unfortunately very APM-intensive; I don't doubt MVP's multitasking, but I doubt his wrists. Third, Parting plays such a unique style that it's difficult to replicate in practice (as opposed to playing Squirtle, for instance, whose style is much more of the typical timing-based style); Oz tried to play Parting-style, and it almost ruined him. Not to mention, Parting's shown that he's not averse to playing other styles as well, which makes it difficult to predict exactly what he'll pull out of his hat, whereas MVP is pretty much restricted to early cheese or late-game-macro machine to take him out, and I'm not sure Parting is beatable in late-game if your wrists aren't up for some heavy-duty micro and APM-intensive bio control.
Also, I wish Keen would step up with some FBH-ceremonies, but fuck it, he keeps losing or not doing ceremonies anymore. Now that NaDa's out ... maybe we'll get somewhere on SC2 ceremonies.
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Finally somebody punishes Naniwa for his greedy playstyle. We've talked about it for months, and finally somebody has taken advantage of it.
Go MVP!!!
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On May 02 2012 20:56 InoyouS2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 20:45 IMNasty wrote:On May 02 2012 20:32 InoyouS2 wrote:On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote:
IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly. Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO. Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?). MVP usually can get whoever he wants for practice partner, but in this case MKP won't be helping him, because MKP and parting were literally inseparable at MLG That doesn't really make much sense, given MKP's comments about the StarTale team being 'cold' to him after the GSTL finals.
It doesn't seem to be the thing that you would hold a grudge over though, I mean come on if you played for StarTale and then your player was winning and suddenly a disc happens you are gonna be pissed, it was literally about 12 hours after the finals happened(or maybe even shorter than that) and I think its all good now
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Parting looked good last night and seems extremely confident in his ability to take down MVP. Should be a fun match to watch.
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Parting too confident... knock him out MVP 
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On May 03 2012 06:39 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 20:56 InoyouS2 wrote:On May 02 2012 20:45 IMNasty wrote:On May 02 2012 20:32 InoyouS2 wrote:On May 02 2012 20:22 IMNasty wrote:
IM hogging all the big sponsors in korea. parting vs mvp should be interesting, never seen mvp have beef with anyone like that before Doesn't seem too bad, but generally Mvp comes off as someone who doesn't like causing too much drama, so I'd expect it to still be quite friendly. Another factor to consider could be that PartinG is one of many top Protoss players who are all trying to get to the finals, and that the only Terrans that are exceptional in the match-up he already has beaten down (Polt/MarineKing/TaeJa). Mvp on the other hand might have a lot of practice partners to choose from in the form of players like MC/Genius/Oz/HerO. Also, forgot to mention that MKP and Mvp practice together a lot, so maybe MKP can help him out (?). MVP usually can get whoever he wants for practice partner, but in this case MKP won't be helping him, because MKP and parting were literally inseparable at MLG That doesn't really make much sense, given MKP's comments about the StarTale team being 'cold' to him after the GSTL finals. It doesn't seem to be the thing that you would hold a grudge over though, I mean come on if you played for StarTale and then your player was winning and suddenly a disc happens you are gonna be pissed, it was literally about 12 hours after the finals happened(or maybe even shorter than that) and I think its all good now
Even if STQ and Prime are still pissed at each other, if MKP really cares about mending fences like he said, then this would actually be a very good opportunity for MKP to help bridge the gap by helping Parting practice TvP for his match vs MVP.
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