You make seem like MLG is INTENTIONALLY scheduling events to conflict with others. There are only so many weekends in a tournament season, conflicts are inevitable.

ToF

Suriname40 Posts

April 19 2012 20:09 GMT

#122

On April 20 2012 04:38 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

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You make seem like MLG is INTENTIONALLY scheduling events to conflict with others. There are only so many weekends in a tournament season, conflicts are inevitable.

That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. If it happens once or twice it can be due to accidentally overlooking an event or scheduling difficulties, if it happens all the time, it's a statistical fact.

Crownlol

United States3726 Posts

April 19 2012 20:53 GMT

#123

On April 20 2012 05:09 ToF wrote:

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That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. If it happens once or twice it can be due to accidentally overlooking an event or scheduling difficulties, if it happens all the time, it's a statistical fact.

What a ridiculous statement. MLG is trying to grow the industry, not squash opposition. (maybe eventually, but not yet).

It takes a LOT of operational concern and logistics to run something like this- why would they schedule something during a competing event when it would demonstrably reduce their viewership (thus revenue generation)?

GenesisX

Canada4267 Posts

April 19 2012 21:35 GMT

#124

even more incentive to win dreamhack :o
great to see more partnerships

dacimvrl

Vatican City State582 Posts

April 19 2012 21:37 GMT

#125

saw this coming from a mile away lol

Nazeron

Canada1046 Posts

April 19 2012 21:44 GMT

#126

cool, awesome to see the cooperation between leagues

Jisira

470 Posts

April 19 2012 22:03 GMT

#127

Cooperation is always nice, hopefully this allows for improvements in both tournaments.

Prplppleatr

United States1518 Posts

April 19 2012 23:20 GMT

#128

On April 19 2012 07:10 Slasher wrote:
CBSi/GameSpot Director of eSports Benito Gonzalez and DreamHack eSports boss Frederik "ponderosa" Nyström will be on Live On Three tonight to discuss all the news regarding the new CBSi deal with TwitchTV, MLG and NASL, and the new collaboration of MLG and DreamHack. Also full previews of MLG/DreamHack, Naniwa's triumph in GSL, and MLG's Adam Apiacella hinting at HotS and BW pros being featured at MLG Anaheim.

All starts at 7:00 PM EST/01:00 CET with myself, djWHEAT and SirScoots at http://www.Twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV

PS. I will have my own special announcement to make tonight, as well :O)

It's night somewhere, whats the news?

OCsurfeR

United States195 Posts

April 19 2012 23:51 GMT

#129

I'm not a big fan of cross-seeding between tournaments, because they're tournaments, not leagues.

Cross-seeding this way gives player X a lift in Tournament B just because of how well he did in Tournament A.

If the Tournaments were very isolated in who plays in them, that might be one thing, but the top 30-40 players of SC2 tend to get to all the major tournaments, and getting Seeded in an MLG event because you did well at DreamHack or vise-versa feels unfair to the other players imho, and pro-players have been known to echo my sentiments.

What I'd LOVE to see is the four finalists from each of these tournaments (throw GSL, IPL and NASL into this mix) have a World Championship for SC2 to determine the undisputed heavyweight SC2 champion each year. Now that would be EPIC.

Cross-seeding just looks like two organizations fake hugging each other to get shared audience, and is unfair to the players involved.

OCsurfeR

United States195 Posts

April 19 2012 23:54 GMT

#130

On April 20 2012 00:39 andeh wrote:
pfft, since when has mlg become the master foreign tournament? Just keep everything separate...

Amen. Remember last season MLG tried this with GSL and it didn't produce great results. Some MLG players who went to GSl expressed that they didn't feel the seeding was a fair trade and that GSL players got the better end of the deal.

docvoc

United States5491 Posts

April 20 2012 00:34 GMT

#131

Sounds great, though I would like to see a joint tourney online held in the summer that is little to no money given, just to see what the up and coming players in the world look like.

Femari

United States2900 Posts

April 20 2012 05:43 GMT

#132

On April 20 2012 04:20 ToF wrote:
Good move MLG, now stop scheduling your stuff over other peoples' events.

lol you seem to know nothing about this at all. All this shit is planned so far in advance. You have to book the venue and things can fall apart so lol you.

Waterflow

Sweden1550 Posts

April 20 2012 07:49 GMT

#133

On April 20 2012 14:43 Femari wrote:

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lol you seem to know nothing about this at all. All this shit is planned so far in advance. You have to book the venue and things can fall apart so lol you.

Guess it just sucks that a 8 man mini event steals the attention away from a big tournament like Dreamhack with over a hundred players (both korean and foreigners).

This would of been so much better if they didn't collide on the same date.

Packawana

United States1081 Posts

April 20 2012 08:09 GMT

#134

If MLG also seals the deal with OGN, this will be one hell of a tourney alliance. IPL/Gom will need to get ESL/IEM as soon as they can in order to survive.

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

April 20 2012 08:13 GMT

#135

On April 20 2012 17:09 Packawana wrote:
If MLG also seals the deal with OGN, this will be one hell of a tourney alliance. IPL/Gom will need to get ESL/IEM as soon as they can in order to survive.

GSL this week had commercials for Dreamhack eizo invitational running between Code S matches, so i don't really think they are directly competing against eachother just yet.

Waterflow

Sweden1550 Posts

April 20 2012 08:17 GMT

#136

On April 20 2012 17:13 Fragile51 wrote:

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GSL this week had commercials for Dreamhack eizo invitational running between Code S matches, so i don't really think they are directly competing against eachother just yet.

A GSL/Dreamhack cooperation would be cool.

And instead of winning a Code-S seed it would be much cooler if the winner or top contenders could win like a month of training in korea or something.

ShotgunMike

Sweden241 Posts

April 20 2012 08:38 GMT

#137

I think it is good with increased cooperation. However, I hope that there are more sides to this that have not yet been disclosed. Otherwise it looks like a bit ad hoc and I´m not sure we really gained anything?

As a viewer we lost one European at the MLG event, unless Koreans fail to win Dreamhack. Dreamhack seems to have gained nothing in particular from this. For MLG it is pretty much the same, perhaps an extra Korean to fly in for the event.

testthewest

Germany274 Posts

April 20 2012 09:42 GMT

#138

A step in the right direction!
I hope one fine day, all major tournaments will work together, pros will be jetting aorund the world and esport will be a truely international sport.

klogg

Sweden800 Posts

April 20 2012 11:46 GMT

#139

Isn't MLG just paying the winner of DH EIZO Open to come for Spring Arena #2?
Doesn't sound much like a collaboration. Is there a seed for DH summer available for winner of Spring Arena?

zaii

Guam2611 Posts

April 20 2012 11:57 GMT

#140

On April 20 2012 20:46 klogg wrote:
Isn't MLG just paying the winner of DH EIZO Open to come for Spring Arena #2?
Doesn't sound much like a collaboration. Is there a seed for DH summer available for winner of Spring Arena?

when is DH summer