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IronSquid
Profile Joined January 2012
France487 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 23:42:14
April 13 2012 15:29 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)Iron Squid is a tournament that deserves an exceptional place for its final show. This very prestigious is none other that Le Grand Rex. Le Grand Rex is the largest cinema, theater and music venue in Paris. An atmospheric theater, the cinema features a starred "sky" overhead, as well as interior fountains. The cinema is a landmark of Art Deco style architecture. It features the largest screen in Europe, called grand large. Le Grand Rex is capable to gather over 2, 500 spectators that will come to watch a day long show on StarCraft II. The ticket will be available at 6pm on www.PlaceMinute.com for €35,95. The show will start at 10 am and end at 10pm, here is the schedule of the day:

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Schedule:

10.00am : Opening
11.00am : Start of the show
11.30am : 1st Semi final
1.00pm : Lunch Break
2.00pm : 2nd Semi final
4.00pm : Bronze Final
7.00pm : Showmatch
8.00pm : Grand final
10.00pm : End if the show


Trailer of Iron Squid Grand Final.



"Hi Squidies ! Now you know that the finals will be live at Le Grand Rex on the 5th of May from am to pm! Be there, be Crazy and be ready to live the largest amount of skill and insanity ever reached in that spectacular theater! And to know you will play the semi-finals, be on www.ironsquid.tv Saturday 8pm CET for the Ro8! It's just the beginning of Iron Squid..."
Alexandre "Pomf" Noci, French Caster



"We haven't even gotten through the RO8 yet and every match is already shaping up to be a GSL-finals level event. The absurd quality of this tournament is beyond compare. We took 20 of the best players in the world and only 8 made the cut. This is the cream of the crop, the very best that Starcraft 2 has to offer and by the time we get to the live Grand Finals event in Le Grand Rex only 4 will remain. We have already seen some astonishing games, we've seen legends fall and hopefuls looking for their shot at the top. Le Grand Rex in Paris is a fantastic venue for what can only be an astonishing show. Huge capacity, the loudest crowd you'll ever hear if what I've seen of French eSports is anything to go by and of course the best games. We'll have the pleasure of providing the English stream and myself and Apollo are completely hyped for it. Casting games of this calibre is a privilege and we hope to bring you all the excitement as we bring this tournament to a close in an explosive manner. Do yourself a favour and don't miss out"
John "Total Biscuit" Bain, English Caster



Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
April 13 2012 15:32 GMT
#2
:o nice, pretty sick venue
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
April 13 2012 15:33 GMT
#3
I cant see this being that profitable
$40euro?
I dont know how big the french scene is but well see i suppose
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 15:34:41
April 13 2012 15:33 GMT
#4
Awesome, but the price seems way too high :/. Title sounds like a bad monster movie though :p.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 15:34:30
April 13 2012 15:34 GMT
#5
Very nice venue. Good luck with the ticke sale.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 13 2012 15:36 GMT
#6
=o

Don't know if you will be able to fill it. 35€ is pretty expensive for the semi finals + finals.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Kaoru
Profile Joined April 2004
France150 Posts
April 13 2012 15:36 GMT
#7
On April 14 2012 00:33 IOvEggY wrote:
I cant see this being that profitable
$40euro?
I dont know how big the french scene is but well see i suppose


Last Ogaming'TV by P&T, they sold 1,500 places in Less than 2 days.^^
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 13 2012 15:36 GMT
#8
Really enjoyed iron squid so far so looking forward to the finals. hopefully will be a good audience.
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
April 13 2012 15:38 GMT
#9
Im actually thinking about flying over to france for this.
Anyone know if this will be offline finals ? Because im not paying a flight and Hotel to watch a Stream...
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
Kaoru
Profile Joined April 2004
France150 Posts
April 13 2012 15:39 GMT
#10
On April 14 2012 00:38 MetalSlug wrote:
Im actually thinking about flying over to france for this.
Anyone know if this will be offline finals ? Because im not paying a flight and Hotel to watch a Stream...



It is a Offline Final with Top 4. But that will be in French. with some English interventions.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
April 13 2012 15:41 GMT
#11
40euros is way too high in my opinion
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Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
April 13 2012 15:44 GMT
#12
On April 14 2012 00:38 MetalSlug wrote:
Im actually thinking about flying over to france for this.
Anyone know if this will be offline finals ? Because im not paying a flight and Hotel to watch a Stream...


It's obviously offline
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
April 13 2012 15:44 GMT
#13
On April 14 2012 00:41 Yaki wrote:
40euros is way too high in my opinion

Yeah compare that to Dreamhack Stockholm, which has 16 players and costs 19 euro.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45686 Posts
April 13 2012 15:45 GMT
#14
40 bucks for a remarkable all day event is a pretty good price.

40 bucks for a remarkable all day StarCraft event, on a StarCraft nerd's budget, when asking StarCraft fans to come... is a not-so-good price.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
April 13 2012 15:45 GMT
#15
On April 14 2012 00:41 Yaki wrote:
40euros is way too high in my opinion


A 2 hours shitty movie cost 10€ in Grand Rex. A 9 hours SC2 show cost 40...not that expensive finally.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Bubulefou
Profile Joined February 2011
France29 Posts
April 13 2012 15:46 GMT
#16
Airplane ticket bought, ironsquid ticket bought, alright I'm ready.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
April 13 2012 15:48 GMT
#17
Why did this have to be a week before my exams T_T

If this was one month later I'd totally go being so close to France T_T
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
April 13 2012 15:48 GMT
#18
Surely they're going to have a hard time selling 2500 tickets at 36 euros a pop for a 4 man, all Korean tournament?
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
April 13 2012 15:50 GMT
#19
What a sick venue!

I really hope they can fill it! GLGL IronSquid - Awesome tournament, and of course awesome music as well (IronSquid produced 20+ songs specifically for the tournament - The most well known is probably this one:



Several player themes composed for this as well - MC's theme is especially awesome!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 13 2012 15:52 GMT
#20
On April 14 2012 00:48 cuppatea wrote:
Surely they're going to have a hard time selling 2500 tickets at 36 euros a pop for a 4 man, all Korean tournament?


ye, shouldve 7 winners and stephano as an invite. ezpz full
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DayWalk3r
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada192 Posts
April 13 2012 15:53 GMT
#21
Aww i wish i could come but france is so far away and so expensive to travel to :-(
Event looks sick though!
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Kaoru
Profile Joined April 2004
France150 Posts
April 13 2012 15:53 GMT
#22
On April 14 2012 00:50 ELA wrote:
What a sick venue!

I really hope they can fill it! GLGL IronSquid - Awesome tournament, and of course awesome music as well (IronSquid produced 20+ songs specifically for the tournament - The most well known is probably this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0z2aRs4CAY#t=1m39s

Several player themes composed for this as well - MC's theme is especially awesome!


If you liked themes, we Might be able to do longer version of some of those !

Thanks to In Uchronia ^^
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
April 13 2012 15:58 GMT
#23
Surely they're going to have a hard time selling 2500 tickets at 36 euros a pop for a 4 man, all Korean tournament?


Exactly my 1st thoughts as well. They may better let them play this out in korea and cast the replays and get another format for their next event.

This could turn out really sad.

I hope it will not ofc.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 13 2012 15:58 GMT
#24
I had my reservations when Iron Squid was announced, but the organizers have shown themselves taking the challenge seriously if optimistically. I hope the event succeed, because it can prove a new tournament space is possible between minor and major events.
Thank God and gunrun.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 13 2012 15:58 GMT
#25
It might have been easier if Stephano was in the last 4.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
April 13 2012 16:02 GMT
#26
Looks like an awsome venue! Really professional, price is quite steep tho. Hope it turns out to be a succes, ill be watching the stream atleast!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 13 2012 16:04 GMT
#27
Holy shit this is so sick :o
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
April 13 2012 16:05 GMT
#28
On April 14 2012 00:52 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 00:48 cuppatea wrote:
Surely they're going to have a hard time selling 2500 tickets at 36 euros a pop for a 4 man, all Korean tournament?


ye, shouldve 7 winners and stephano as an invite. ezpz full


Indeed. If I was trying to sell tickets for a tournament hosted in France I'd pay Stephano to be in it. When you're running a tournament like this, with a lot of players in it who have really high skill levels but really small fanbases it pays to have at least a few invites so you don't end up with a bunch of people nobody wants to watch (which is what will happen if Symbol, Alive, Jjakji and Puma win their quarter finals).

With that said, it's been a really well run, well produced tournament so I hope it goes well for them and I'll be tuning in to the stream.
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 13 2012 16:09 GMT
#29
I'd absolutely pay $40 for an all day event with such a stacked lineup in such an awesome venue. Alas, I'm not within driving distance.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
April 13 2012 16:11 GMT
#30
this looks tres cool.
keep it deep! @zulison
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 13 2012 16:17 GMT
#31
Custom player themes? Absolutely impressive.
I am listening to a few of them right now, and it's not shabby stuff. Excellent work.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 13 2012 16:18 GMT
#32
On April 14 2012 01:09 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I'd absolutely pay $40 for an all day event with such a stacked lineup in such an awesome venue. Alas, I'm not within driving distance.


more like $60 dude^^

id still pay it though if it would be within 2-3 hours by car^^
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 13 2012 16:32 GMT
#33
Lovely, don't watch it often but when I do I am impressed.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
MekTypro
Profile Joined July 2010
France360 Posts
April 13 2012 16:34 GMT
#34
The cost of the ticket is that expensive because the reservation for this venue must be quite high.

Also, I think it'll just be the semi-finals + final + 3rd place because if they do more matches, they should do this over 2 days, which must cost even more.

I really hope there'll be enough people to go, I like Iron Squid and I don't want them to fail doing this event.
RustySpork
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom49 Posts
April 13 2012 16:37 GMT
#35
i think it is a fair price for an all day event, sad that i can't go but i wish Iron Squid the best!
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
April 13 2012 16:39 GMT
#36
Too bad I dont live in France anymore :'((( I would absolutely have gone at this event...
And Grand Rex is a pretty cool venue
A French living under the sun
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 13 2012 16:43 GMT
#37
So, you can watch it for 40 dollars+travel live, or watch it online for free?

I guess the venue is just so expensive so they have to do that, I just can't see how it will fill up, unless France have secretly been a major Esport country.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
April 13 2012 16:44 GMT
#38
Cinco de Mayo and Iron Squid. I'll be watching and eating nachos! Thx Squid.
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
April 13 2012 17:08 GMT
#39
Great, I have my ticket. :D Gonna be awesome !
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
April 13 2012 17:10 GMT
#40
I`d shell out the price if I was living or was currently in France. Sadly I`m not but I hope all the same that the venue gets filled and we get to see some awesome games.
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warzag
Profile Joined October 2011
France259 Posts
April 13 2012 18:07 GMT
#41
Even if it's a little expensive, it's fucking amazing, it will be one of the biggest crowd of sc2 fans !
MONXY FIST
Profile Joined November 2009
United States142 Posts
April 13 2012 18:10 GMT
#42
On April 14 2012 01:05 cuppatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 00:52 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 14 2012 00:48 cuppatea wrote:
Surely they're going to have a hard time selling 2500 tickets at 36 euros a pop for a 4 man, all Korean tournament?


ye, shouldve 7 winners and stephano as an invite. ezpz full


Indeed. If I was trying to sell tickets for a tournament hosted in France I'd pay Stephano to be in it. When you're running a tournament like this, with a lot of players in it who have really high skill levels but really small fanbases it pays to have at least a few invites so you don't end up with a bunch of people nobody wants to watch (which is what will happen if Symbol, Alive, Jjakji and Puma win their quarter finals).

With that said, it's been a really well run, well produced tournament so I hope it goes well for them and I'll be tuning in to the stream.


Stephano was invited to the tournament, he just didn't advance to the ro8.
None but a coward dares to boast that he has never known fear.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
April 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#43
Too bad I'm in the US or I'd consider going. It sounds amazing, good luck with it.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 13 2012 18:21 GMT
#44
At that price, I hope Pomf&Thud take casting lessons from dApollo. That's a guy who is serious about improving his casting.

Ah well, we can't everything.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#45
On April 14 2012 01:43 Hiea wrote:
So, you can watch it for 40 dollars+travel live, or watch it online for free?

I guess the venue is just so expensive so they have to do that, I just can't see how it will fill up, unless France have secretly been a major Esport country.


The french casters Pouf & Thud are pretty damn popular.
They did some kind of one man show ( they are two, but you get the idea ) about gaming and sc2, even bringing friends from a well know television channel.
They had a lot of people for that.

I think they can fill up more than people think. But as I said earlier, it would have been easier if Stephano made it.
And there's a high possibility of having only Terran for the last 4... Selling 9 hours of TvT can be hard.
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Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
April 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#46
Sick venue! :O
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theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
April 13 2012 18:35 GMT
#47
Good luck and all, I hope it's a great event. 35 euro seems insane, though. I guess I would pay $50 for an MLG or something (but I wouldn't be happy about it). That's a three day event, though. When you factor in other costs like travel and parking expenses, food, etc., you have to be in pretty good financial shape to manage that...
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 13 2012 18:38 GMT
#48
Only 900 tickets remaining. Amazing.
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Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
April 13 2012 18:46 GMT
#49



I understand that the price may put off some of the younger and more cash-strapped fans, but in fairness I've paid
much higher amounts to see a band come out for 45 mins, also, a typical friday night drinking session costs me about 50 euros, so this seems well worth it. The venue is expensive, I hope they sell out. Great tournament.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 13 2012 18:47 GMT
#50
Definitely considering flying over to watch with my mate that speaks French. Great work on the tourney this far, can't wait to see the finals!
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 13 2012 18:48 GMT
#51
On April 14 2012 00:50 ELA wrote:
What a sick venue!

I really hope they can fill it! GLGL IronSquid - Awesome tournament, and of course awesome music as well (IronSquid produced 20+ songs specifically for the tournament - The most well known is probably this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0z2aRs4CAY#t=1m39s

Several player themes composed for this as well - MC's theme is especially awesome!

Wow that's awesome xD.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 18:50:00
April 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#52
Great music, good casters, and an amazing lineup, especially if MC/MMA/Nestea/Foxer make the Ro4. This would be one of the most awesome last 4's in any tournament, better than any GSL so far for sure.

All in all, I really like Iron Squid, I'll definitely be tuning in and I hope the place is packed.
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
April 13 2012 18:50 GMT
#53
On April 14 2012 00:53 Kaoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 00:50 ELA wrote:
What a sick venue!

I really hope they can fill it! GLGL IronSquid - Awesome tournament, and of course awesome music as well (IronSquid produced 20+ songs specifically for the tournament - The most well known is probably this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0z2aRs4CAY#t=1m39s

Several player themes composed for this as well - MC's theme is especially awesome!


If you liked themes, we Might be able to do longer version of some of those !

Thanks to In Uchronia ^^


Actually I really like his music. I hope he will release them for download as mp3 in the future.
Nothing to add.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 13 2012 18:55 GMT
#54
Do people really think 40 euros is a lot for a live event? -.-

People here everywhere go to a hockey game for $60-$120 on a weekly basis, is $55 dollars that much for an occasional whole day event?

People need to look at beyond the amount of games play and focus on the actual enjoyment. I don't give a shit how many games there are, as long as the experience is good, and if Iron Squid pulls it off well it'd be more that worth the money.
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 19:01:32
April 13 2012 19:00 GMT
#55
completely wrong thread - Sorry!
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 13 2012 19:01 GMT
#56
Always odd to see people make comments when they don't seem to understand the business.

There's only 900 tickets remaining for this thing and weeks to go, at a 2500 seat venue. Yeah, they know what they're doing and who their audience is.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 13 2012 19:02 GMT
#57
any info on that showmatch? who's playin?
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warzag
Profile Joined October 2011
France259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 19:12:02
April 13 2012 19:08 GMT
#58
850 tickets remaining... wtf!

On April 14 2012 04:02 Schelim wrote:
any info on that showmatch? who's playin?


Showmatch ? It's one of the biggest tourney ever played !

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid#Group_Stage
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
April 13 2012 19:17 GMT
#59
On April 14 2012 04:08 warzag wrote:
850 tickets remaining... wtf!

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 04:02 Schelim wrote:
any info on that showmatch? who's playin?


Showmatch ? It's one of the biggest tourney ever played !

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid#Group_Stage


I'd go so far as to say if they end up with MC, MMA, Nestea, and MKP it'll be the greatest semi-finals lineup in SC2 history. Please, please make it happen. Or at least can we avoid 4 terrans advancing?
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Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
April 13 2012 19:28 GMT
#60
Well here in Europe many people spend at least twice or triple that amount on a 90 minute football (soccer) game on the weekends. If you look at it that way, 40 euro for 12 hours doesnt seems that bad .

That said, I will be watching the stream though

:)
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 19:39:53
April 13 2012 19:37 GMT
#61
I hope for much success for this team, such an amazing job running this. What a great venue and a big contrast to the casino in vegas (which was also exemplary). This is the old world, America! I think they will show everyone in SC2 just how cool esport can be if you have people organizing who can do cool. So far we've had fun, geeky, enthusiastic and overdone events, but this will be something different.
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
April 13 2012 19:54 GMT
#62
On April 14 2012 03:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do people really think 40 euros is a lot for a live event? -.-

People here everywhere go to a hockey game for $60-$120 on a weekly basis, is $55 dollars that much for an occasional whole day event?

People need to look at beyond the amount of games play and focus on the actual enjoyment. I don't give a shit how many games there are, as long as the experience is good, and if Iron Squid pulls it off well it'd be more that worth the money.


Only compared to other SC2 events.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
April 13 2012 19:58 GMT
#63
Wow sick venue. As others have said, the price is pretty steep though :/ Hoping for a great audience anyways - Iron Squid surely deserves a great finals to end a great tournament.
What a player
bouhko
Profile Joined January 2012
193 Posts
April 13 2012 20:07 GMT
#64
Wow that's the best venue I've ever seen for an esport tournament.
u sixpoll ?
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 13 2012 20:09 GMT
#65
On April 14 2012 04:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Always odd to see people make comments when they don't seem to understand the business.

There's only 900 tickets remaining for this thing and weeks to go, at a 2500 seat venue. Yeah, they know what they're doing and who their audience is.

Pomf&Thud audience isn't really TL oriented, I would even dare to say that thieir audience doesn't even know what competitive eSports really is (where BW is the pinnacle) and are most likely yuppies to be able to afford a 40€ one day event.

Being a student in paris, 40€ is either 1 week worth of food or 4 night with friends. I value that over one day of SC2 even with some of the best korean.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
April 13 2012 20:12 GMT
#66
how often do you see your hero in person and have a chance take a picturer with them or get a signed shirt, $60is not bad imo~
as1
GHSTxJet
Profile Joined January 2012
United States154 Posts
April 13 2012 20:13 GMT
#67
Holy mother of venues
SuppySon
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 13 2012 20:15 GMT
#68
On April 14 2012 05:09 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 04:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Always odd to see people make comments when they don't seem to understand the business.

There's only 900 tickets remaining for this thing and weeks to go, at a 2500 seat venue. Yeah, they know what they're doing and who their audience is.

Pomf&Thud audience isn't really TL oriented, I would even dare to say that thieir audience doesn't even know what competitive eSports really is (where BW is the pinnacle) and are most likely yuppies to be able to afford a 40€ one day event.

Being a student in paris, 40€ is either 1 week worth of food or 4 night with friends. I value that over one day of SC2 even with some of the best korean.


you got cheap nights with friends ^^
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Nightshake
Profile Joined November 2010
France412 Posts
April 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#69
Hell yeah !
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
April 13 2012 21:13 GMT
#70
729 tickets remaining - 1771 tickets sold in 12 hours... Well done IronSquid! I will be watching the stream, hope you frenchies are going to make some noice for the english stream as well ^^^^
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 21:18:14
April 13 2012 21:14 GMT
#71
kinda sounds like one of those cheesy monster vs monster movies
Grand Rex vs Iron Squid!
Inno pls...
Bubulefou
Profile Joined February 2011
France29 Posts
April 13 2012 21:30 GMT
#72
The venue :
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Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
April 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#73
So Kaoru, how much we need to like themes from Iron Squid, so you guys will make longer versions?

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/s8enx/awesome_player_themes_from_iron_squid_tournament/
Nothing to add.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 14 2012 04:39 GMT
#74
On April 14 2012 04:08 warzag wrote:
850 tickets remaining... wtf!

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 04:02 Schelim wrote:
any info on that showmatch? who's playin?


Showmatch ? It's one of the biggest tourney ever played !

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid#Group_Stage


i know, but in the OP it says there's a showmatch at 7pm, right before the grand finals.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
April 14 2012 04:51 GMT
#75
Predicting MC vs MKP grand final, hoping MC takes it
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
April 14 2012 04:59 GMT
#76
big risk in renting such a big hall, even if a 1000 people show up, it will still look pretty empty
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
April 14 2012 05:03 GMT
#77
Wow epic venue, I really hope it fills. I actually think what your getting here is pretty good value!
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
April 14 2012 06:22 GMT
#78
I just hope you guys get enough ticket sales so it doesn't end up like the NASL and IPL offline events with barely a few people in the live audience (though they managed to get more people around for the finals events).
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 14 2012 06:33 GMT
#79
Those sponsors!

Holy cow, Iron Squid, I felt not enough people paid attention to this!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 14 2012 06:52 GMT
#80
Wow!! At the G rex, sick sick venue!
Chicken gank op
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 14 2012 07:50 GMT
#81
On April 14 2012 15:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
Those sponsors!

Holy cow, Iron Squid, I felt not enough people paid attention to this!

Their format doesn't really make it very viewable with it being stretched out so long and casted over replays which were played really long ago.

But the Ro4 should be good though. Venue looks awesome.
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Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
April 14 2012 07:53 GMT
#82
On April 14 2012 15:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
Those sponsors!

Holy cow, Iron Squid, I felt not enough people paid attention to this!


For me the name was off-putting, sounds like a kids show.
Logan_ps
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
April 14 2012 07:53 GMT
#83
Absolutely stunning venue. Would love to be able to make it to the event!
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
April 14 2012 07:55 GMT
#84
On April 14 2012 16:53 Logan_ps wrote:
Absolutely stunning venue. Would love to be able to make it to the event!

Imagine when we'll be able to easily fill one of those bad boy venues, ahhh dreams..
Obitus.243
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
April 14 2012 07:55 GMT
#85
the reamining tickets will all depends of the players attending the ro4.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
April 14 2012 07:58 GMT
#86
OMG Le Grand Rex, so sick :D
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 14 2012 08:02 GMT
#87
gotta say I'm pretty excited about this :D
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
April 14 2012 08:03 GMT
#88
I absolutely love the progress in many of the SC2 communities in Europe.

First we get 2300 live spectators for DH Stockholm and just two weeks later we have 2500 live spectators for Iron Squid.

I really hope it will sell out, it would be great for the French SC2 community .
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
April 14 2012 08:08 GMT
#89
Wow, what a venue. Worth me tuning in based solely on that (not that I feel the production and quality of games will be anything less than stellar..)
Waffles > Pancakes
Bidj
Profile Joined September 2010
France98 Posts
April 14 2012 12:52 GMT
#90
So excited about this, and will probably be near Paris for the 5th of may.
Time to spend 36 euros!
Rooooaaaar
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 14 2012 14:29 GMT
#91
On April 14 2012 15:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
Those sponsors!

Holy cow, Iron Squid, I felt not enough people paid attention to this!

  • Alt-Tab is Pomf&Thud company
  • Asus RoG is a new gamer brand who is looking to expand in France (personal sponsoring of MoMaN for example)
  • Materiel.net is a market leader in hardware retail on internet. They sponsor a lot of teams on the scene.
  • Eveneo is an association who is installing network for gaming LAN - They did the ESWC 2011
  • Astro is a gaming gear brand.
  • Twitch.tv is well known
  • Game One is a cable TV company who is trying to expand its esports content (They are sending Adelscott to korea for a week)


Nothing out of the ordinary I think.
alpha9
Profile Joined September 2010
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 15:02:49
April 14 2012 15:02 GMT
#92
There is also a rich investisor who wanted to create his own tournament. (in South America at the beggining)

And the Grand Rex is a prestigious place, so I understand why it cost 36€, it's a bit expensive, but like everything in Paris.
AwfulPlayer
Profile Joined August 2010
249 Posts
April 14 2012 15:07 GMT
#93
On April 14 2012 13:59 Kira__ wrote:
big risk in renting such a big hall, even if a 1000 people show up, it will still look pretty empty


On April 14 2012 06:13 ELA wrote:
729 tickets remaining - 1771 tickets sold in 12 hours... Well done IronSquid!


well done indeed. and as a sidenote: ppl should check out the player themes they did for their tournament. truly epic.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
April 14 2012 15:08 GMT
#94
Not having Stephano there competing will definitely hurt, they should get a showmatch going.
/commercial
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
April 14 2012 15:13 GMT
#95
On April 15 2012 00:08 Novalisk wrote:
Not having Stephano there competing will definitely hurt, they should get a showmatch going.

I think the organisation of the tournament is a bit sour about Stephano's cancellation, so I'm not too sure it's going to happen...
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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 14 2012 15:13 GMT
#96
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 14 2012 15:23 GMT
#97
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 14 2012 15:27 GMT
#98
On April 15 2012 00:23 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will


lol the same debate over and over again.

It is pretty normal that a French crowd (who loves starcraft if they pay 40€ for a ticket) cheers way louder for Stephano than for MKP...unless most of the people in the crowd are like you which would be REALLY REALLY weird.
bro_fenix
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
April 14 2012 15:32 GMT
#99
Cool idea, but I don't know how many people they expect to host. Still grand idea, hope it turns out in success!
Life isnt about waiting for the storm to pass... Its about learning to dance in the rain.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 14 2012 15:33 GMT
#100
On April 15 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 00:23 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will


lol the same debate over and over again.

It is pretty normal that a French crowd (who loves starcraft if they pay 40€ for a ticket) cheers way louder for Stephano than for MKP...unless most of the people in the crowd are like you which would be REALLY REALLY weird.

The thing is... people believe that for some obscure reason it is IMPOSSIBLE to feel attachment to korean players, they believe all korean players to be boring and without personalities. This is just ignorant, and it just means these people don't watch the GSL and don't want to invest the time on knowing the korean scene, and then they proceed to blame it on the players.

I'm telling you, I go nuts when MC plays, not just because he's so good at SC2, but because he's such an awesome dude. And there are many players like that in the korean scene, you just have to know it.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 14 2012 15:52 GMT
#101
On April 15 2012 00:33 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:23 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will


lol the same debate over and over again.

It is pretty normal that a French crowd (who loves starcraft if they pay 40€ for a ticket) cheers way louder for Stephano than for MKP...unless most of the people in the crowd are like you which would be REALLY REALLY weird.

The thing is... people believe that for some obscure reason it is IMPOSSIBLE to feel attachment to korean players, they believe all korean players to be boring and without personalities. This is just ignorant, and it just means these people don't watch the GSL and don't want to invest the time on knowing the korean scene, and then they proceed to blame it on the players.

I'm telling you, I go nuts when MC plays, not just because he's so good at SC2, but because he's such an awesome dude. And there are many players like that in the korean scene, you just have to know it.

Some player have awesome persona, but Koreans players are more or less copies of each other. Only the koreans with outstanding personalities have popularity in the foreign scene and they are not many : MC, viOlet, MKP, Polt etc etc ... Yeah aLive won IPL4 and it's great for him but what if GanZi would have won ? Would that change anything ? Absolutely not ? MC invested a lot of time for his foreign fan and it pays in the end. Why would I support someone who doesn't make the effort of learning English ? Polt did and he got my respect. Even Ukrainians speak it and education in Ukraine is much worse than in Korea. Your kind is so bent over worshiping Koreans because they allegedly train harder but when it comes to fan service one is much more lenient ...

PS : I'm not asking Maru to speak english at 14y old. Just someone around 18y old should be able to answer questions about his game in english.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
April 14 2012 15:56 GMT
#102
Anything with "Le" in its name is a guarantee for sophisticated SC2.

Good luck on selling the tickets though, 40euro sounds expensive to me.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 14 2012 16:02 GMT
#103
On April 15 2012 00:52 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 00:33 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:23 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will


lol the same debate over and over again.

It is pretty normal that a French crowd (who loves starcraft if they pay 40€ for a ticket) cheers way louder for Stephano than for MKP...unless most of the people in the crowd are like you which would be REALLY REALLY weird.

The thing is... people believe that for some obscure reason it is IMPOSSIBLE to feel attachment to korean players, they believe all korean players to be boring and without personalities. This is just ignorant, and it just means these people don't watch the GSL and don't want to invest the time on knowing the korean scene, and then they proceed to blame it on the players.

I'm telling you, I go nuts when MC plays, not just because he's so good at SC2, but because he's such an awesome dude. And there are many players like that in the korean scene, you just have to know it.

Some player have awesome persona, but Koreans players are more or less copies of each other. Only the koreans with outstanding personalities have popularity in the foreign scene and they are not many : MC, viOlet, MKP, Polt etc etc ... Yeah aLive won IPL4 and it's great for him but what if GanZi would have won ? Would that change anything ? Absolutely not ? MC invested a lot of time for his foreign fan and it pays in the end. Why would I support someone who doesn't make the effort of learning English ? Polt did and he got my respect. Even Ukrainians speak it and education in Ukraine is much worse than in Korea. Your kind is so bent over worshiping Koreans because they allegedly train harder but when it comes to fan service one is much more lenient ...

PS : I'm not asking Maru to speak english at 14y old. Just someone around 18y old should be able to answer questions about his game in english.

This just sounds like you want to see who won and nothing else. Like I said, if you like top Starcraft, you'll watch koreans gladly, which is logical since they train the hardest. Otherwise, I'd recommend just turning on the stream on the background so you can hear who wins the games.

Maybe GanZi would have shown us amazing games, that's enough difference to make it enjoyable for me, since I like to watch top Starcraft.

I'll root for Chile whenever they play in the Football World Cup, but when they lose and Germany faces Spain in the finals, I'll watch without a doubt, with a beer in my hand, with my friends, excited as hell.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 14 2012 16:12 GMT
#104
Like I said you are trying to prove that your point of view is the only worthy one without any good arguments. I tried to explain why I (and probably some others) don't support Koreans blindly just because they allegedly train harder. Enjoying great games has nothing to do with being a fan and supporting. I hope you grasp the difference I'm trying to explain here.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 14 2012 16:16 GMT
#105
That is sick! Looking forward to it.
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Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
April 14 2012 16:28 GMT
#106
Awesome venue
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Crilath
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland29 Posts
April 14 2012 16:32 GMT
#107
I wish I could go :-/
Why are you so far Paris?
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
April 14 2012 17:12 GMT
#108
Nice one, will surely be awesome.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
April 14 2012 17:21 GMT
#109
On April 14 2012 00:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
40 bucks for a remarkable all day event is a pretty good price.

40 bucks for a remarkable all day StarCraft event, on a StarCraft nerd's budget, when asking StarCraft fans to come... is a not-so-good price.


hopefully you realize that it's 40 euros, not $40USD

Conversion rate aside, I think it's on the high end of the pricing spectrum, but the quality of the experience is also very high.

The price-point will definitely prevent some people from attending that would have attended at a lower price point, but they have to start high, as a price hike for future events (if their initial price point was too low) would be a mess on the PR front.
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
April 14 2012 17:33 GMT
#110
On April 15 2012 01:32 Crilath wrote:
I wish I could go :-/
Why are you so far Paris?


It's not that far, if you can go in Lyon easily, you're just 1H30 from Paris
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Crilath
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland29 Posts
April 14 2012 19:38 GMT
#111
On April 15 2012 02:33 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 01:32 Crilath wrote:
I wish I could go :-/
Why are you so far Paris?


It's not that far, if you can go in Lyon easily, you're just 1H30 from Paris

From Lyon maybe, but from where i live, it's almost 7h =((((
p2jh
Profile Joined October 2011
France24 Posts
April 14 2012 19:58 GMT
#112
WOW the "Grand Rex" is one (the) most known cinema/theatre/big-places-with-lots-of-seats (what's the word in english?) in Paris, that's pretty huge. I live next to it, don't know if I'll have enough to pay for it but it sounds great.

AND I thought : if they advertise the thing a little bit, such an event in such a known place will not go unknonwn... Imagine a poster of sc2 like this :http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/64/paris_2eme_arrondissement/paris_le_cinema_le_grand_rex_1.jpg
( it's not like NYC, here in Paris it's the only place I can think of on a main street that is that big)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#113
On April 14 2012 23:29 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 15:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
Those sponsors!

Holy cow, Iron Squid, I felt not enough people paid attention to this!

  • Alt-Tab is Pomf&Thud company
  • Asus RoG is a new gamer brand who is looking to expand in France (personal sponsoring of MoMaN for example)
  • Materiel.net is a market leader in hardware retail on internet. They sponsor a lot of teams on the scene.
  • Eveneo is an association who is installing network for gaming LAN - They did the ESWC 2011
  • Astro is a gaming gear brand.
  • Twitch.tv is well known
  • Game One is a cable TV company who is trying to expand its esports content (They are sending Adelscott to korea for a week)


Nothing out of the ordinary I think.


Talking in terms of spectators and viewership.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
April 14 2012 20:35 GMT
#114
If i was in the capital i would surely buy one of these, it is so stacked that watching it live would be awesome
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
April 14 2012 23:31 GMT
#115
On April 15 2012 00:52 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 00:33 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:23 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will


lol the same debate over and over again.

It is pretty normal that a French crowd (who loves starcraft if they pay 40€ for a ticket) cheers way louder for Stephano than for MKP...unless most of the people in the crowd are like you which would be REALLY REALLY weird.

The thing is... people believe that for some obscure reason it is IMPOSSIBLE to feel attachment to korean players, they believe all korean players to be boring and without personalities. This is just ignorant, and it just means these people don't watch the GSL and don't want to invest the time on knowing the korean scene, and then they proceed to blame it on the players.

I'm telling you, I go nuts when MC plays, not just because he's so good at SC2, but because he's such an awesome dude. And there are many players like that in the korean scene, you just have to know it.

Some player have awesome persona, but Koreans players are more or less copies of each other. Only the koreans with outstanding personalities have popularity in the foreign scene and they are not many : MC, viOlet, MKP, Polt etc etc ... Yeah aLive won IPL4 and it's great for him but what if GanZi would have won ? Would that change anything ? Absolutely not ? MC invested a lot of time for his foreign fan and it pays in the end. Why would I support someone who doesn't make the effort of learning English ? Polt did and he got my respect. Even Ukrainians speak it and education in Ukraine is much worse than in Korea. Your kind is so bent over worshiping Koreans because they allegedly train harder but when it comes to fan service one is much more lenient ...

PS : I'm not asking Maru to speak english at 14y old. Just someone around 18y old should be able to answer questions about his game in english.



The thing is when you are lucky in France to have a french player able to compete with the best, you try your best to have him in your finals in Paris. Maybe it is not the best thing for equity, but it is the best thing for the french fans and the success of your tournament.
Other than that, and the fact koreans speak english really bad, and are very far from western culture, the most important thing is that it is not fun to watch a one-nation international tournament. It would be the same if only swedes dominated SC2 for example...
warzag
Profile Joined October 2011
France259 Posts
April 15 2012 10:30 GMT
#116
On April 15 2012 08:31 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 00:52 Otolia wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:33 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:27 marcesr wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:23 mordk wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:13 marcesr wrote:
Everything about this is great, but why all Koreans? I remember ESWC final with Stephano, the crowd was incredible. Does anyone think it will be close to that if Korean plays vs Korean? I dont.

If the viewers actually like Starcraft, then it will


lol the same debate over and over again.

It is pretty normal that a French crowd (who loves starcraft if they pay 40€ for a ticket) cheers way louder for Stephano than for MKP...unless most of the people in the crowd are like you which would be REALLY REALLY weird.

The thing is... people believe that for some obscure reason it is IMPOSSIBLE to feel attachment to korean players, they believe all korean players to be boring and without personalities. This is just ignorant, and it just means these people don't watch the GSL and don't want to invest the time on knowing the korean scene, and then they proceed to blame it on the players.

I'm telling you, I go nuts when MC plays, not just because he's so good at SC2, but because he's such an awesome dude. And there are many players like that in the korean scene, you just have to know it.

Some player have awesome persona, but Koreans players are more or less copies of each other. Only the koreans with outstanding personalities have popularity in the foreign scene and they are not many : MC, viOlet, MKP, Polt etc etc ... Yeah aLive won IPL4 and it's great for him but what if GanZi would have won ? Would that change anything ? Absolutely not ? MC invested a lot of time for his foreign fan and it pays in the end. Why would I support someone who doesn't make the effort of learning English ? Polt did and he got my respect. Even Ukrainians speak it and education in Ukraine is much worse than in Korea. Your kind is so bent over worshiping Koreans because they allegedly train harder but when it comes to fan service one is much more lenient ...

PS : I'm not asking Maru to speak english at 14y old. Just someone around 18y old should be able to answer questions about his game in english.



The thing is when you are lucky in France to have a french player able to compete with the best, you try your best to have him in your finals in Paris. Maybe it is not the best thing for equity, but it is the best thing for the french fans and the success of your tournament.
Other than that, and the fact koreans speak english really bad, and are very far from western culture, the most important thing is that it is not fun to watch a one-nation international tournament. It would be the same if only swedes dominated SC2 for example...


The fact is that P&T are so funny, and even if the players are not french, they will make the crowd awesome. A P&T event is not comparable with the IPL or the MLG, people in the venue are here to see great games but to have fun too! Drink beer, talk with friends... Even if Stephano will not be here, it will be awesome !

making of of their last event (in french but you can see the environment ) :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rho787L3I80
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
April 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#117
Hell !! I'm sure gonna come, with lots of friends, and celebrate my birthday in a great venture, being able to kiss MMA's feat and so on (:p).

On another topic, 35 € is a bit expensive for a SC2 event, not so expensive for the Grand Rex though - and since it's the only event in France with big names well good time to enjoy this.
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
Goliath1234
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1 Post
April 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#118
Does anyone knows if there also casters in english at the live event in paris? Because I'm thinking of flying to paris for this event
Homun
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany21 Posts
April 15 2012 15:10 GMT
#119
On April 15 2012 23:37 Goliath1234 wrote:
Does anyone knows if there also casters in english at the live event in paris? Because I'm thinking of flying to paris for this event


Apollo and TB will be sitting in the back, casting a stream I would guess.
Anything else would be quite wierd with some aparently popular nativ speaking casters attached to the event.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
April 15 2012 15:19 GMT
#120
May 5th? damn, I have to be in Rotterdam that weekend, oh well, a pitty.
Varian84
Profile Joined April 2012
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 11:52:54
April 16 2012 11:52 GMT
#121
1900/2700 tickets sold in 3-4 days, looks like a win and this tournament deserve it.

Good good job Kaoru, P&T, TB, dApollo and all the people involved.

Can't wait to see the event (on stream sadly)
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 16 2012 12:02 GMT
#122
On April 16 2012 00:10 Homun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 23:37 Goliath1234 wrote:
Does anyone knows if there also casters in english at the live event in paris? Because I'm thinking of flying to paris for this event


Apollo and TB will be sitting in the back, casting a stream I would guess.
Anything else would be quite wierd with some aparently popular nativ speaking casters attached to the event.


Apollo will be there, TotalBiscuit will be "casting in" from the USA, as far as I know.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
April 16 2012 12:05 GMT
#123
Same day as the FA Cup final
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
April 16 2012 12:09 GMT
#124
P&T got a HUUUUUGGGEEEE fanbase in France, and considering we don't host that many major lan events in the country, I bet most of their fans will be moving to Paris for this event.
2500 tickets is of course a lot but they're pretty good at marketing themselves and there events so I wouldn't worry much about that. I'd be more concerned of how to handle a crowd of 2k e-Sport fans inside such a prestigious theater without ruining the place ....
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
April 16 2012 12:14 GMT
#125
I believe the majority of e-sports fan are not bad mannered, pee and puke everywhere in a venue. It should be fine
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Bjoernzor
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden159 Posts
April 16 2012 12:17 GMT
#126
God damnit 10 days early for my trip to Paris T_T
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love" - Day9
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1961 Posts
April 16 2012 12:26 GMT
#127
I might go, but 12h for 5 starcraft matches seems a bit much
geiko.813 (EU)
Varian84
Profile Joined April 2012
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 12:35:03
April 16 2012 12:33 GMT
#128
you should not worry, P&T knows how to entertain ppl and its 3 Bo5, 1 Bo7 and some showmatches if i'm not wrong so it will be a lot of games

I'm just sad there's no Protoss
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
April 16 2012 12:39 GMT
#129
wow that is cool
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:52:07
April 17 2012 15:51 GMT
#130
only 656 seats left, wish I can go~
as1
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 17 2012 15:56 GMT
#131
Woops, i I'd live in Paris, I would definetly attend!
that venue looks awesome!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 17 2012 16:10 GMT
#132
Dunno if I missed this somewhere, but are the semis and finals bo7?
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 18 2012 15:06 GMT
#133
On April 18 2012 01:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Dunno if I missed this somewhere, but are the semis and finals bo7?


semis: bo5
bronze final: bo5
grand final: bo7


over 2k tickets sold in not even a week, if you want to come (and trust me you should want to) it's about time to get your ticket!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#134
Aw man, if only I lived in Europe
Bora Pain minha porra!
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
April 18 2012 15:11 GMT
#135
Seriously ? That's high-class o_____________o
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Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
April 18 2012 15:14 GMT
#136
So happy the tickets are selling well! Seems like it gunna be a great event! Really looking forward to the stream!
Clairval
Profile Joined August 2011
France37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 16:07:54
April 18 2012 15:45 GMT
#137
Actually, these are 3 Bo5 (semifinal 1, semifinal 2, bronze final), a showmatch (unknown players and number of rounds) and the Bo7 (Grand final). That's to say more or less 20 "GSL S-class" games you're watching live and fully commented in theater chairs for 35 €.

Concerning the showmatch, Pomf & Thud already invited top European players in more casual events, so anything might happen, but especially :

- Pomf/Thud willing to get crushed by one of the Koreans. Yet unlikely to happen in such a "serious" tournament.
- Some high level PvX, due to the lack of Protoss in the brackets, the Ro4, and their absence from the live event. I personally was shocked to see ToD invited on the sole basis of chauvinism hidden behind his "secret training in Korea". He won one game in his whole bracket, and would have better been replaced by popular guys like HuK, Kiwikaki, Grubby or Minigun.
- MoMaN vs ??? The guy was the top french Zerg before Stephano's rise, but he maintained national popularity by becoming friend with Pomf/Thud in their early career. He notably had a "Starcraft II gamer girls" weekly stream on MilleniumTV, a recap/analysis chronicle for Zerg matches in the french Iron Squid emissions, and accompanied the two casters in most of their events. He's likely to show up, playing or not.
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
April 18 2012 15:47 GMT
#138
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"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 18 2012 15:47 GMT
#139
to be honest, story of the this tournament is Symbol.

i hope French peoples will cheer for him
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 18 2012 15:51 GMT
#140
On April 19 2012 00:47 dragonborn wrote:
to be honest, story of the this tournament is Symbol.

i hope French peoples will cheer for him


I think all of the 4 players will be warmly cheered for! As TB said French audience are loud and they will clap and cheer for every good move a player makes!

I'm not worried about symbol as he is pretty entertaining to watch (and as you said, the story of this tournament)
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Rynzou
Profile Joined May 2011
France5 Posts
April 21 2012 20:32 GMT
#141
200 places remaining, this is truly epic !
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 21 2012 20:51 GMT
#142
On April 22 2012 05:32 Rynzou wrote:
200 places remaining, this is truly epic !

Not really surprising though. Let's just look at their YouTube numbers : 53,430 subscribers & 40,082,412 video views. If you add the most viewed SC2 stream in France (MilleniumTV) which has around 2K on average at any point of the day, and consider the fact that they sell out the LDLC Winter in around 2 days (~500 places) then you would expect that.

That's a really good news for our beloved hobby. Now we need structures to train players and not just buy them off the market and hope they improve.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
April 24 2012 23:32 GMT
#143
118 seats left, truly amazing
as1
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
April 24 2012 23:37 GMT
#144
On April 25 2012 08:32 skyflyfish wrote:
118 seats left, truly amazing


On April 22 2012 05:32 Rynzou wrote:
200 places remaining, this is truly epic !


That is truly great!
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Varian84
Profile Joined April 2012
35 Posts
April 25 2012 06:18 GMT
#145
ye, truly incredible
Varian84
Profile Joined April 2012
35 Posts
April 25 2012 18:57 GMT
#146
only 70 seats remaining, if you want to buy one, its now :D
nB)Bouh
Profile Joined July 2011
France35 Posts
April 25 2012 20:05 GMT
#147
I need to make my mind fast :p
Varian84
Profile Joined April 2012
35 Posts
April 26 2012 15:34 GMT
#148
sold out :D
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 26 2012 15:51 GMT
#149
On April 27 2012 00:34 Varian84 wrote:
sold out :D


That can´t be true...
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 26 2012 15:57 GMT
#150
On April 27 2012 00:51 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 00:34 Varian84 wrote:
sold out :D


That can´t be true...


why wouldn't it be?
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
April 26 2012 18:50 GMT
#151
sold out :D
as1
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
April 26 2012 18:53 GMT
#152
Congrats on the sell out, such a sick venue. GL HF!
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 26 2012 18:57 GMT
#153
People thought Dreamhack was a good cheering crowd. Just wait to see what Paris can do. You'll never see entertainment the same way !
Varian84
Profile Joined April 2012
35 Posts
May 04 2012 05:20 GMT
#154
only 1 day !
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