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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On April 12 2012 01:58 Warpath wrote: Vipers eating minerals. Under attack? blinding cloud. I can see 4-5 of these eating minerals in your opponents base pretty frustrating if your terran, with the lack of melee units. Totally agree. I can see that mechanic getting seriously annoying. I guess turrets shut it down though? | ||
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Altsa
Finland990 Posts
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
Or air spider mines? Hellions? Scrap both, give terrans vultures with real spider mines. I mean, they go to such lengths to not be BW, but all they're really doing is changing one tiny factor of a BW spell or unit, for the worse. The lunkers that shoot out tiny bitches? Fuck those. Lurkers are an incredibly interesting and skill demanding unit- so lets make them the exact same except lame as fuck and useless. These are goliaths that are just goliaths but not as cool and also they do extra damage to mech. What if the arbiter was the nexus? But also put arbiters in the expansion. Except make them suck. I'm bummed out. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany674 Posts
On April 12 2012 01:25 OyvN wrote: Its going forward but i dont like the "maybe we keep the thor" line.. same! hopefully we just get the Goliath. and leave the one big thor for lategame | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
Protoss changes are still seeming a bit lackluster. I like the Tempst change. I still think the Oracle is 100% useless because rebuilding workers is always more damage than just having them maynard for a few seconds. Hoping for something else...possibly a midgame unit that actually does DPS at a range. | ||
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FlaminGinjaNinja
United Kingdom879 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On April 12 2012 02:01 Lexpar wrote: I sort of hate a lot of this. Like that Viper thing. I wish that they would just stop beating around the bush and give it dark swarm. "It's not BW blah blah blah" but heres a unit that looks the same and plays the same and can cast the same spell except its a tiny bit different and much worse. Or air spider mines? Hellions? Scrap both, give terrans vultures with real spider mines. I mean, they go to such lengths to not be BW, but all they're really doing is changing one tiny factor of a BW spell or unit, for the worse. The lunkers that shoot out tiny bitches? Fuck those. Lurkers are an incredibly interesting and skill demanding unit- so lets make them the exact same except lame as fuck and useless. These are goliaths that are just goliaths but not as cool and also they do extra damage to mech. What if the arbiter was the nexus? But also put arbiters in the expansion. Except make them suck. I'm bummed out. Sry but I don't want BW again. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On April 12 2012 02:01 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote: same! hopefully we just get the Goliath. and leave the one big thor for lategame The Viking is the Goliath...it just has to switch forms to go between ground to ground and air to air attacks. The Warhound is there as more as an anti-armored ground to ground unit, and replacement for the Thor ground to air volley. It's more like a cheaper more massable version of the Thor. I think the missle launcher idea is dumb. Sounds like another unit catered to newbie who don't know how to micro siege tank vs siege tank wars. TvT is already way more dynamic than BW TvT with the stronger bionic potential in SC2 vs BW. It's quite easily the most entertaining mirror matchup to watch and play, imo. For the love of god, experiment with the Carrier before deleting it! Add BWesque Carrier micro, problem solved! The Phoenix was completely overhauled from an A-move unit to a unit that requires intensive attention to micromanage it to it's full potential. | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On April 12 2012 01:54 baldgye wrote: you can't be a honorable warrior in an aircraft?? And I just think it would give Protoss more options than they currently have, and isn't that Blizz's whole 'things' behind the expansions? I addressed that in a previous post. I guess I just feel like Blizzard's approach to this has been broken from the start. All the races are not supposed to be equal. Just balanced. And there is a difference. I'd have been much happier if they'd have released a complete game, with no mention of an expansion, and then released one later. Instead we have a work in progress that I'm not sure needs to be. They've boxed themselves into having to come up with enough material to fill 3 games and keep interest and balance. That'll be tough and I'm not saying it's not doable, but I'm hesitant to put any money on it. ^_^ | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 12 2012 02:00 Sp00ly wrote: Totally agree. I can see that mechanic getting seriously annoying. I guess turrets shut it down though? I thought blinding cloud had to be on top of the BIO for it to blind it I am pretty sure? I could be wrong they didn't really say but that's what I was assuming is it had to be on top of the bio for it to work. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
That said, if they can turn nydus into a multi-purpose building with a variety of worms to use, then that's cool. I think part of better design for Starcraft 2 has to be to have more interesting base management. i.e. instead of spending all our time coming up with unit design, we should also have interesting uses of buildings, macro, resource gathering and such. The viper and oracle interacting with mineral fields, nydus worms having additional abilities, the oracle being able to disable tech and such are interesting precisely because they create more depth to this aspect of the game. | ||
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Rednaxela_19
United States150 Posts
On April 12 2012 01:25 rift wrote: I don't want "cool" stuff, I want a well-designed esport. They should have the assistance of Kespa/progamers as was originally planned. Blizzard, please stop making units that are explicitly role-specific. This. I know they want SC2 to become a big esport... but by making it more competitive and taking advice of progamers, in the end, will make it a better esport, and attract more viewers. | ||
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Tritanis
Poland344 Posts
Viper feeding on minerals to gain energy and more types of nydus worms? <3<3<3 | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On April 12 2012 02:01 Lexpar wrote: I sort of hate a lot of this. Like that Viper thing. I wish that they would just stop beating around the bush and give it dark swarm. "It's not BW blah blah blah" but heres a unit that looks the same and plays the same and can cast the same spell except its a tiny bit different and much worse. Or air spider mines? Hellions? Scrap both, give terrans vultures with real spider mines. I mean, they go to such lengths to not be BW, but all they're really doing is changing one tiny factor of a BW spell or unit, for the worse. The lunkers that shoot out tiny bitches? Fuck those. Lurkers are an incredibly interesting and skill demanding unit- so lets make them the exact same except lame as fuck and useless. These are goliaths that are just goliaths but not as cool and also they do extra damage to mech. What if the arbiter was the nexus? But also put arbiters in the expansion. Except make them suck. I'm bummed out. You and me both. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On April 12 2012 02:03 Tump wrote: The Viking is the Goliath...it just has to switch forms to go between ground to ground and air to air attacks. you forgot it sux vs ground ^^ | ||
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Testuser
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
To be fair, so did the Goliath xD | ||
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Split.
Switzerland234 Posts
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