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19LaMbda
South Africa55 Posts
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kofman
Andorra698 Posts
Sports, such as soccer or track, are MUCH better options for Africans to get out of poverty. They pay much better, and frankly, are a lot more attractive than playing videogames for a living. Plus all they require is just playing soccer or running alot, while for starcraft you need computers, internet, plus a whole lot of other equipment. Look at the English Premier League or the La Liga, there are tons of Africans who made it playing soccer. | ||
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phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
"Well boys a few years ago, me and some of my buds from England would take a boat there to pick up some hitchhikers. Then we'd take em to America, trade them to rich people for molasses. Then bring the molasses back home and have a some delicious pancakes. Yummy (;" "sc2 is not supported there as far as I know" "First of all, a lot countries in africa have too much to worry about such as food, shelter, water, and diseases. Electricity is rare to conveniently have to play games, and they are a developing nation, to be honest i bet at least 3/4 of their country doesn't even know what starcraft 2 is. " "There are very little players in africa, and you cannot expect anyone to be higher than diamond in all of africa. Imho its due to the general lack of technology and the very different culture." "Wow an entire continent and no one in their Grandmaster's league T-T" The worst ones but just some of the stuff said. I think its just ignorance that makes people say these kinds of statements. People are being way too lazy to go out and actually check facts and figures before ranting on about something. More internet cables are coming into South Africa every year which in turn increases the available bandwidth by large amounts. Also they are currently working through regulations and policy at the moment to try and get more and more people online with out buckling the whole infrstructure (which is beig upgraded). Anyways point is dont just make sweeping assumptions, PandaTank who posted in the thread is the player I mentioned and he is near Top 100 of GM. So yeah not just random idiots playing around. | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
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Stenstyren
Sweden619 Posts
I think it has more to do with culture, gaming is simply not as well spread as it is in the "western world". But that's just me talking out of my ass, perhaps someone from Africa could elaborate on their view of the matter. Also, "WCG Namibia" is not representative of the African SC2 community. Would you go to a SC2 event in Azerbaijan that you happen to hear about on some forum (with almost no one attending.) (Alaska for you US people) | ||
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Mvrio
689 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On April 07 2012 11:07 Catatonic wrote: It would cost more money running a server for Africa then they would make from it. There's not enough of a scene there to make a blip on Blizz's radar for them to remotely care. pretty much this... africa could care less about video games... i dont even need to explain. if you know just a little about africa it should be self explanitory | ||
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CryTT
South Africa19 Posts
In any case,I too wondered why there was no African division. Sure we might not have a large player base, however we do have enough to make a qualifiers and a play off and then have enough players to send out to represent the continent. We play on the EU server with between 180-250 ms latency, it's kinda annoying but we deal with it. We have plenty of players in masters and a player in GM (yes, only one). Those bringing up the undeveloped regions of Africa are being incredibly + Show Spoiler + American Every continent and country has it's issues. Ours might be hard pressed, but that doesn't mean we should be excluded completely from tournaments like these. We aren't asking for our own server, most of us (at least the better half of the player base) would continue playing on EU. | ||
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snakeyezz
South Africa26 Posts
I am South African and I totally play sc2 with my pet Cheetah. | ||
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Toxi78
966 Posts
On April 07 2012 09:11 bblack wrote: Then I imagine that the same goes for a lot of less developed countries in, for example, Africa. If you can make a living by becoming successful in SC, as it is right now, why don't any Africans seem to go train full time as a career path? Is it something to do with technology and internet being unavailable, or lack of teams to support starting pro's, or just ignorance of the possibility, or.. ? are you even serious? made my day xDDD | ||
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Gluon
Netherlands425 Posts
On April 08 2012 03:33 snakeyezz wrote: The amount of ignorance here is shocking... I am South African and I totally play sc2 with my pet Cheetah. Made me smile  Living the good life! | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On April 08 2012 03:10 PandaTank wrote: Wow, so many ignorant comments in this thread its disgusting. Really? You think the highest player in the WHOLE of Africa is only in diamond? I suppose you also think we have ride elephants to work here. Exactly what i was thinking. Such retarded replies on this thread. There a few really good players from South Africa. PandaTank being one of them. Yes there are a lot less of us than the rest of the world, but not for the reasons some of the people are thinking. In South Africa at least, the biggest thing holding serious gamers back is not that there is no internet. Its the fact that internet is expensive, probably due to the fact that there is only one DSL company (Telkom) that controls all internet regardless of ISP. The lack of competition in the market means prices are sky high compared to other countries. Yes there are poor African countries who have bigger concerns than playing Starcraft but not all of them. Europe and Asia have similar conditions (I dare say worse conditions than some African countries) in some countries and to generalize about it is simply idiotic. We are just as passionate about Starcraft as any of you guys are. Really do yourselves a favour and pay us a visit so you can wake the fuck up. This shit is really hilarious. | ||
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
On April 07 2012 09:11 bblack wrote: With the StarCraft II World Championship Series being announced there have been many questions about the way the world gets divided into 5 continents. Although most people are commenting on Asia-related divisions, to me the most remarkable observation lies in there not being an African continent representative. While I follow the pro scene quite fanatically and am well aware that there aren't any African pro players, it did get me wondering. I always figured that SC (and other skill / practice related professions like break-dancing) has grown so large in Korea because it's very difficult to develop a school and work career over there. Even if you're smart, you might have difficulty of being successful. Then I imagine that the same goes for a lot of less developed countries in, for example, Africa. If you can make a living by becoming successful in SC, as it is right now, why don't any Africans seem to go train full time as a career path? Is it something to do with technology and internet being unavailable, or lack of teams to support starting pro's, or just ignorance of the possibility, or.. ? Looking at previous posts, there is some SC action going on in South Afrika, but that does overall seem to be the most 'western' country of the continent anyway. So, it comes down to this: I feel like there aren't many African SC players, am I right? Why is that the case? How can you compare South Korea as a country to any country in Africa ? The economy of S.Korea I think is 10x++ stronger than any african country. Africa though develops quite fast I reckon ( less population/square2). The first paragragh in the OP is wrong. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Yes, countries like South Africa have some middle class, but even there it's something like 50% of the population living below the poverty line. The vast majority of Africans make nowhere near enough to have gaming as a hobby. That's the primary reason there aren't many African players despite it being the second most populous continent. | ||
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Eiaco
170 Posts
On April 08 2012 04:20 Mondieu wrote: How can you compare South Korea as a country to any country in Africa ? The economy of S.Korea I think is 10x++ stronger than any african country. Africa though develops quite fast I reckon ( less population/square2). The first paragragh in the OP is wrong. The rich part of South Africa is much richer than South Korea. Ill try and keep race out of this but its very difficult to, 6 million South Africans live in western-like luxury whilst 44 million South Africans live in utter poverty. Some of the North African Countries are fairly oil rich. Everything in-between North of Arfica (Morrocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya and Egypt) and South Africa seems to be in complete and utter poverty though. | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
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Eiaco
170 Posts
On April 08 2012 04:38 Chriscras wrote: Egypt is in Africa, are there no Egyptian SC2 players? The only top player that I know that could be cast as an African is Stephano as he is of African decent. | ||
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Stenstyren
Sweden619 Posts
On April 08 2012 04:34 FuzzyJAM wrote: All this bullshit "PEOPLE ARE BEING IGNORANT" stuff is driving me nuts. Yes, some people have made some stupid comments, but don't make equally ignorant comments by acting as though Africa isn't easily the poorest continent. Yes, parts of Asia are as bad as most of Africa, yes, parts of Europe are as bad as the better parts of Africa (no, nowhere in Europe comes close to Somalia or ROC or Liberia or the like). Doesn't mean you have to pretend that even a large minority has a gaming PC and broadband connection. Yes, countries like South Africa have some middle class, but even there it's something like 50% of the population living below the poverty line. The vast majority of Africans make nowhere near enough to have gaming as a hobby. That's the primary reason there aren't many African players despite it being the second most populous continent. The thing is, people in this thread seems to believe that the entire continent is living in small huts, barely getting by through dumpstring (not the hipster kind). This is totally wrong. Yes, all countries in Africa have very large problems but their cities are quite well developed and have internet (perhaps it's expensive as someone said but it's there). Say that only 2% of the citizens of Africa have broadband and living conditions that allow them to theoretically play SC2 online. That's still 20 million people, meaning that there must be some other underlying factor than just the fact that they are all poor. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On April 07 2012 09:23 XenocideFTW wrote: I'd be willing to say over 3/4 of the population in the US couldn't tell you what SC2 is, either. Of that 3/4 i bet 1/2 of them would ask "is that like world of warcraft?" | ||
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BuffnuggleR
United States12 Posts
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