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Hi everyone,
Last night, you may have read that  Eclypsia was not a real team, and that their players were having problems with payment and other issues. Evidently, this is far from the truth. Ever since we launched our project we’ve faced these same doubts from the community, and despite our professionalism acquired through many years working in online business people sometimes love blood too much to appreciate the honey.
So we decided to play along, after all we had nothing to lose. We contacted our players and staff with this crazy idea, and I can assure you their opinions were just as mixed as yours. Some found the idea brilliant, others thought we were just crazy. They told us we were going to burn ourselves and them at the same time. After long, in-depth discussions we decided to go for it. Our common motivation was to quash the accusation of being a “fake team”, and what better way to do that than to laugh about it on the only day of the year when it’s allowed.
Returning to the controversy, there are no problems whatsoever. Welmu will be at the Copenhagen Games at our expense, Dayshi has indeed received his computer in near record time, just 7 days after signing, and all our players and staff feel very comfortable in the organisation.
We may be new arrivals in e-sports but we are a company that has been thriving on the internet for more than 7 years now, and our players and staff appreciate the professional infrastructure we have in place: a lawyer to answer any questions about contracts, a department that presents the business plan to our players, they are not in the dark and can plan their careers entirely around the time they commit to the game. No more questions day after day about whether they can live on the money from their stream, slaves to the fickleness of fame. Our players can focus fully on their play, free of financial worries.
Beyond our explanations we want to sincerely apologise to those who believed the original story and felt bad for our players! We have work to do to catch up, but let the Eclypsia adventure begin!
Our website has launched
Our site is online in French and English. This is the launch version and will be constantly improved with new features and content.
www.eclypsia.com
New players have arrived
Several new faces from Starcraft 2 and League of Legends join us for the official launch.
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Artist is a Korean Terran player who previously played for fOu and Reign. He has notably won 16 Playhems and attended multiple MLGs and season 3 of the IPL.
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SarenS is a French Terran player. He has played for MYM, ESC, *aAa* and Cybernation. He was France’s best Brood War player, and won the first two seasons of the eOSL, a French competition organised by eGG-One. In their last tournament he faced Stephano in the final.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6eOlB.jpg)
desRow is a Canadian Protoss player. Currently living in the GOM.tv house in Korea, desRow played for Team Legion and RAGE.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tvfSS.jpg)
Skyyart is a top solo player in League of Legends. He left Sypher to join us and reunite with his old teammate ShLaYa. Skyyard won the Asus RoG tournament at Paris Games Week and had strong results at IEM New York (3rd place).
The Zerg Lair’s shoutcaster commentating on our English WebTV
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Foxy is the creator of the Zerg Lair. She has interviewed numerous professional players and will be joining Eclypsia to cast Starcraft 2 in English and French.
Two Tournaments (Starcraft 2 and League of Legends) each with a 2000 euro prize pool Eclypsia will organise two tournaments (Starcraft 2 and League of Legends) commencing on April 18th. They will each have a 2000 euro prize pool. Payment of cashprizes is guaranteed within 30 days after the final! More information will be released very soon, including the teams that will be participating.
A gaming house in Brussels
Our players are going to live in Brussels, capital of Belgium and center of the European Union. The opening will take place in about a month.
Have a good day everybody! We love you!
P.S : Our players wanted to say a few words about the April Fools
Dayshi: I loved participating in this diabolical plan. Thanks to everyone who supports me and I apologise for having so much fun tricking you!
Pouilleux : April 1st required a little joke from Eclypsia. Don’t worry, this organisation keeps its promises and looks very exciting. In a week we’ll meet the French public at Gamers Assembly ! If you don’t see us there check out eclypsia.com, this is going to be one of the great stories in e-sports.
ELVIS: That was fun. I put some doubts in peoples minds by continuing to stream on Eclypsia TV. Sorry to all those who asked me for information and who I didn’t reply to, I couldn’t upset the plan!
ShLaYa: The principle is simply Machiavellian! From a seed of genius! It was a pleasure to participate indirectly and to watch it play out
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SLoG : It’s great to be part of the team. The April Fools was funny until everyone started sending me messages in private that I had to ignore (sorry guys!)
desRow: I’m really pleased to join a new team. I can already tell you that they will be sending me to the MLG Fall Championship. I will also be streaming from time to time on Eclypsia TV. Follow me on the social networking sites. Thanks to all my fans who have supported me since early 2011.
Artist : I’ve finally found a team after a long time, and I’m not going to waste anybodies time! I will give my very best.
Our SC2 Team:
Jo " Artist" Min Ho
Pierre "SarenS" Guivarch
Antoine " ELVIS" Paquay
Antoine "Dayshi" Stievenart
Marc-Olivier " desRow" Proulx
Vesa "Welmu" Hovinen
Andrew "SLoG" An
Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/EclypsiaCOM
Twitter : https://twitter.com/#!/EclypsiaCOM
Website : http://www.eclypsia.com
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LOL thats kind of funny. so it was an april fools joke about being an april fools joke???
o_O
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Cruel joke dude. But very well done lol
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Geniusly done! So many people got mad because they got tricked.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Artist and SarenS? They cannot have been cheap or easy to get eclypsia must have some serious cash backing it up so I'll be interested in seeing how this team develops.
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ESPORTS is trolling ESPORTS and killing ESPORTS so ESPORTS may live? :p
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i'd like to hear from welmu about this 
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Welmu did great :D
Good luck Ecylpsia in the future!
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As so much teams are created, whichever does this evil joke recieve highest PR credit  .
Well done Eclypsia and gratz to very nice logo and webpage
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What a retarded way to get publicity.
I hope you guys go out the same way as you came crawling in.
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Hands down this is the best Aprils Fool... why? Because they actually fooled ALOT of people, NOBODY knew for certain.
The posts made by the managers gave it away for me, specifically the reply to Taip from BLAST.Mgk (2nd quote)
Taip
To be honest, I'm very disappointed. Eclypsia contacted me at the beginning of March to manage their team. Now I'm listed as a coach, they've recruited other managers, and I don't have a fucking clue what's going on. I didn't get any of the salary I was promised either and I can't reach any of their staff on skype, this is a really sad situation.
BLAST.Mgk's reply
Taip, you just say shit ! I became manager because I was better. Nevertheless, I don't have any news of the staff too, but it's the week-end...
Just eat french fries Taip, thank you.
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that's how trolling is done, great way to launch your organization. Gongratz for fooling everyone
EDIT : And happy birthday, just saw the icon, this is pure genius ! :D
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Which players will be living in belgium?
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Artist + SarenS... Nice. Is Skyyart Zerg?
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The April fools joke thing actually worked a real treat to take attention away from the playing roster
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So one of the reasons people believed the joke was because no one could find the team's sponsors, I still can't. Do you guys have sponsors?
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In my opinion it was not the best choice bringing a lot of negative attention and bad first impressions on your team due to a april fools joke and also making fun of players who actually ended in a position where their teams screwed them over
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I thought aprils fool jokes were meant to be funny. Gl with this project.
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SoCal8910 Posts
so.. april fools? ha ha ha?
-_- i dont really think this was funny (if it was intended to be) because of the timing, but whatever. im glad to see artist has a new home.
for future reference: don't make big announcements on april fools day.
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Oh these times where everyone thinks they have to seem as much of an asshole as they can and call it marketing. This attention whoring gave you 1 minute of my life in this thread and that's it. Congratulations. Does that mean I will ever visit your website, check out your sponsors and maybe buy their products instead of their competitor's ones? I don't think so because I am really getting sick of stuff like this and on top of that it wasn't even close to being funny.
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On April 01 2012 23:46 RouaF wrote:
I thought aprils fool jokes were meant to be funny. Gl with this project.
I think they are meant to trick you more than they are supposed to be funny.
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Seriously, what is going on right now...have been so many times mindfucked already solely from reading TL...guess i'll wait till tomorrow...
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On April 01 2012 23:47 Influ wrote:
Oh these times where everyone thinks they have to seem as much of an asshole as they can and call it marketing. This attention whoring gave you 1 minute of my life in this thread and that's it. Congratulations. Does that mean I will ever visit your website, check out your sponsors and maybe buy their products instead of their competitor's ones? I don't think so because I am really getting sick of stuff like this and on top of that it wasn't even close to being funny.
There's alot of people who think otherwise, what are the chances of you visiting their site if you don't even know of their existence?
None.
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United States33327 Posts
'unwise' doesn't even begin to describe it
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This joke was so cruel! I felt so bad for Welmu. U fooled us all :S
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Is this supposed to be funny? Because it's far from that.
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I'm still slightly confused.
I refuse to let my guard down.
What the fuck.
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The "wtf eclypsia" thread is the third highest result in google when you search for your team, just hope you don't have any repecussions from this dumb joke.
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Wait, Brussels? In about a month? I'll be there then!
I'm going to try and contact Eclypsia and ask if I can visit for sure, that'd be awesome!
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I just read the thread and think that a lot of people were "tricked" mostly because they think surely something so serious will not be used as a laughing matter. Kinda why most april fools are light jokes and not jokes about death, sickness, bankruptcy, accidents, etc.
Just remember the boy who cried wolf.
Good luck with the team anyway.
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this thread must be a trick too!
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GLHF Eclypsia, great PR stunt, to see the community jump on another bandwagon was very fun.
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A house and a pretty good roster? Nice. Good luck to all of you.
And an Aprils fool that will get people emotionally engaged will always be like this. The ones who "buy" it takes it personal and gets angry instead of reliefed. Empathy --> embarrassment --> anger. It's science. ..or something like that. 
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Hmm.... sometimes it's better not to do an April Fools...
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Well played Welmu, well played.
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Wow this is insanely stupid....
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Cool, sounds like a good team
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People are just bitter about falling for the joke. Butthurt because they've never actually fallen for one until now. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising.
User was warned for this post
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On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising.
I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff.
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Sorry people who took it very seriously. I just like tricks and sarcasm O_O
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I quite enjoyed the april fools purely because of how many people it upset. That's how a practical joke is supposed to be pulled.
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from "oh look another random team", now I'm actually a fan
fucking gg
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On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff.
Don't do joke because it'd awful and no one should do it because it'd awful because no one should do it because its awful because no one should do circular reasoning.
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Stay classy. That was good.
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On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff.
Why not?
No really.. why not? Did hurt YOU? If ANYTHING it hurt THEM, but then again any1 who saw that thread will most likely be clever enough to see this one, after all the other thread was posted on the 1st of April...
All Eclypsia got from this was... publicity, which is exactly what they want.
All the people that go "OMG I FEEL SO BAD FOR WELMU" etc... what the fuck is wrong with you? Can't you see that even PROFESSIONALS can have FUN? Take a look at Welmus post yourself...
On April 02 2012 00:18 Welmu wrote:
Sorry people who took it very seriously. I just like tricks and sarcasm O_O
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On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff.
I'm not ashamed of falling for a joke on April 1st. They got me, whoop-de-doo!
I'm appalled that an organization thinks this is an appropriate way to try and be cutesy when it comes to marketing their team. It is not how you conduct yourself as a business. You do not make an April fool's slandering your own organization. That is not good business practice. All it proves is that Eclypsia has terrible management staff who has no fucking idea about what they are doing.
An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny.
On April 02 2012 00:23 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. Why not? No really.. why not? Did hurt YOU? If ANYTHING it hurt THEM, but then again any1 who saw that thread will most likely be clever enough to see this one, after all the other thread was posted on the 1st of April... All Eclypsia got from this was... publicity, which is exactly what they want.
It didn't hurt me specifically, no. But puts a dent the legitimacy of eSports as a business. If sponsors find this thread and they think this is a representation of how eSports organizations act, then it puts us all in a negative light. All it takes is a few bad apples to spoil the entire barrel, my friend.
This is not an appropriate way to conduct yourself if you want to be considered a professional organization. This is unprofessional.
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On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny.
Who are you to state that as fact?
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i think this is one of the weirdest lineups ive seen.
good luck !
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On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact?
As someone who wants eSports to succeed in the long run. Joke organizations who think this is an appropriate way to run a business has no place in an already struggling career and profession that's laughed and scoffed at daily by the general public. This just makes our little world even more laughable, because the majority seems to think this is acceptable.
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On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. I'm not ashamed of falling for a joke on April 1st. They got me, whoop-de-doo! I'm appalled that an organization thinks this is an appropriate way to try and be cutesy when it comes to marketing their team. It is not how you conduct yourself as a business. You do not make an April fool's slandering your own organization. That is not good business practice. All it proves is that Eclypsia has terrible management staff who has no fucking idea about what they are doing. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny.
I'd have to agree, all it really did was make it seem like they were a bad organisation that didn't pay players. There have been issues with players and tournaments not paying out so this wasn't so far-fetched that it would be unbelievable. That's the main reason why it was so popular is because the community doesn't want to see players screwed over by organisations. Welmu and Eclypsia know this sort of stuff has happened in the past too. I've lost respect for them that's for sure.
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You had me fooled. Well played.
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I met skyyart in numerous LoL games when i still played it.
He is one of the most bm players i have met in that game, i thought i was chatting with a sociopath.
I won't support a team where he's in. Good luck out there nontheless.
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On April 02 2012 00:26 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact? As someone who wants eSports to succeed in the long run. Joke organizations who think this is an appropriate way to run a business has no place in an already struggling career and profession that's laughed and scoffed at daily by the general public. This just makes our little world even more laughable, because the majority seems to think this is acceptable.
They pulled an April Fools on us, they have de-legitimized e-sports!
Sometimes I just wish E-sports would die... so we could stop having all of this "killing e-sports" bullshit on these forums. Can people EVER have fun on these forums?
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Eh, I decided to reserve judgement of if it was an april fool's joke or not. But I thought to myself that if it was an april fool's joke that it was a bad one and I didn't like it. Just not something that's cool to joke about, lame publicity stunt.
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On April 02 2012 00:30 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:26 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact? As someone who wants eSports to succeed in the long run. Joke organizations who think this is an appropriate way to run a business has no place in an already struggling career and profession that's laughed and scoffed at daily by the general public. This just makes our little world even more laughable, because the majority seems to think this is acceptable. They pulled an April Fools on us, they have de-legitimized e-sports! Sometimes I just wish E-sports would die... so we could stop having all of this "killing e-sports" bullshit on these forums. Can people EVER have fun on these forums?
It has nothing to do with that they pulled an April fool's. April fool's jokes are fine, when they are funny. It's the context and way the April fool's was presented that, yes, de-legitimizes their entire business. I'll say it again. If sponsors look at this announcement and they think this is a representation of how organizations in our world conduct themselves, it puts us all in a negative light.
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On April 02 2012 00:18 Welmu wrote:
Sorry people who took it very seriously. I just like tricks and sarcasm O_O
You not replying to the thread at all sorta gave it away for me, but I enjoyed reading the whole thing 
lots of angry angry birds in there
On April 02 2012 00:26 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact? As someone who wants eSports
ESPORTS!
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is this also april fools joke?
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This made my day.
I was feeling so drowsy and sick from last night and when I read the "Explanation about the drama," holy shit I laughed so hard and now I feel better haha
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On April 02 2012 00:32 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:30 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:26 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact? As someone who wants eSports to succeed in the long run. Joke organizations who think this is an appropriate way to run a business has no place in an already struggling career and profession that's laughed and scoffed at daily by the general public. This just makes our little world even more laughable, because the majority seems to think this is acceptable. They pulled an April Fools on us, they have de-legitimized e-sports! Sometimes I just wish E-sports would die... so we could stop having all of this "killing e-sports" bullshit on these forums. Can people EVER have fun on these forums? It has nothing to do with that they pulled an April fool's. April fool's jokes are fine, when they are funny. It's the context and way the April fool's was presented that, yes, de-legitimizes their entire business. I'll say it again. If sponsors look at this announcement and they think this is a representation of how organizations in our world conduct themselves, it puts us all in a negative light.
What makes you think Sponsors would look at this team only? If sponsors would be serious they'd take a look at the big picture; Evil Geniuses, coL, Fnatic.. the list goes on.
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On April 02 2012 00:34 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:32 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:30 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:26 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact? As someone who wants eSports to succeed in the long run. Joke organizations who think this is an appropriate way to run a business has no place in an already struggling career and profession that's laughed and scoffed at daily by the general public. This just makes our little world even more laughable, because the majority seems to think this is acceptable. They pulled an April Fools on us, they have de-legitimized e-sports! Sometimes I just wish E-sports would die... so we could stop having all of this "killing e-sports" bullshit on these forums. Can people EVER have fun on these forums? It has nothing to do with that they pulled an April fool's. April fool's jokes are fine, when they are funny. It's the context and way the April fool's was presented that, yes, de-legitimizes their entire business. I'll say it again. If sponsors look at this announcement and they think this is a representation of how organizations in our world conduct themselves, it puts us all in a negative light. What makes you think Sponsors would look at this team only? If sponsors would be serious they'd take a look at the big picture; Evil Geniuses, coL, Fnatic.. the list goes on.
Say what you will, logic does not faze us. The cult of ESPORTS will have eclypsia's collective head on a plate soon.
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We'll see how it'll go, Eclypsia.
There's one thing though:
You can't fool TL Mafia.
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I won't deny that I fell for their trick, but I'm glad that it worked out alright.
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I think this was pretty disgraceful and a slap in the face to those who have been scammed by teams. And you guys consider yourselves to be professional? I sure as hell won't be following/supporting you ass clowns. fuck you guys
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What a terrific prank.. it's like a joke where you cover yourself from head to toe in fake poop, then burst into a room shouting "HA HA, YOU ALL THOUGHT THIS WAS REAL POOP! JOKE'S ON YOU! ...Now help me burn my clothes".
Sooooo funny, yeah they totally got 'us' :/
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Well, I guess no publicity is bad publicity. Hope it doesn't hurt your team though. Fortunately though I decided to wait before judging whether it was real or not until an actual response, seemed the sensible thing to do.
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It would have been funnier if your clan had a more significant chance of success. Right now it's kind of like "ha ha...and?"
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On April 02 2012 00:34 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 00:32 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:30 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:26 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:25 sereniity wrote:On April 02 2012 00:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 00:18 Mirosuu wrote:On April 02 2012 00:16 Jombozeus wrote:
People are just bitter about falling for the joke. They have been accustomed to the shitty pr-safe jokes from major websites, and forgotten what this used to be : an elborate plan to trick people for the lulz.
Good for you. The thread and production value looks promising. I don't think a lot of people are bitter because they fell for the joke. They're bitter because you just don't do stuff like this. It's a fucking awful April fool's joke. No one should joke about this sort of stuff. An April fool's joke is not supposed to alienate people, it's supposed to be funny. This was not funny. Who are you to state that as fact? As someone who wants eSports to succeed in the long run. Joke organizations who think this is an appropriate way to run a business has no place in an already struggling career and profession that's laughed and scoffed at daily by the general public. This just makes our little world even more laughable, because the majority seems to think this is acceptable. They pulled an April Fools on us, they have de-legitimized e-sports! Sometimes I just wish E-sports would die... so we could stop having all of this "killing e-sports" bullshit on these forums. Can people EVER have fun on these forums? It has nothing to do with that they pulled an April fool's. April fool's jokes are fine, when they are funny. It's the context and way the April fool's was presented that, yes, de-legitimizes their entire business. I'll say it again. If sponsors look at this announcement and they think this is a representation of how organizations in our world conduct themselves, it puts us all in a negative light. What makes you think Sponsors would look at this team only? If sponsors would be serious they'd take a look at the big picture; Evil Geniuses, coL, Fnatic.. the list goes on.
No, Sponsors will look at what's hot right now, and what's hot right now? Oh yeah, a company that completely jokes about not paying their own employees and then passes it off as an April-fool "joke". If you think that this doesn't hurt anyone, you're severely mistaken.
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Wow bad april fools joke turns out to be huge announcement of new players,congrats!
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Good luck ! Sarens and Artist, sick move !
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Haha to all the people who didn't get the aprils fool "joke"! Y U SO SERIOUS? This was obvious. Not clever; but obvious.
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Wow probably the best April Fools joke so far
Myself and many others were really worried about this situation
glad that we can all laugh and enjoy
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Disgusting. Although I already suspected given the timing of the post, I found it hard it to believe that a company's PR team could stoop so low to actually try this. Jokes are jokes, but certain lines shouldn't be ever crossed. A person's future/life/family should never be used. Given that players have been terribly scammed by teams in the near past, this is a huge insult and slap in their face. Especially given that SC2 esport is still relatively fragile, growing and often shady.
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lol. good stuff. people need to lighten up, but I guess TL loves their drama and are disappointed this all turned out to be a joke.
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Who're your sponsors? I want to let them know what kind of shit corporation you're running.
This is the kind of thing we should as a community be pissed about. We are not your punching bags, don't insult us by exploiting our concern over the players we appreciate.
Abysmal marketing scheme, you should be ashamed.
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On April 02 2012 01:19 RedBlargh wrote:
lol. good stuff. people need to lighten up, but I guess TL loves their drama and are disappointed this all turned out to be a joke.
They are insulting players who have been shafted by teams in the past. It's a huge slap in the face. This is not something to joke about when the general public already thinks what we do is a joke.
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That is some seriously great marketing. Nothing gets this community more up in arms about something like a good piece of monetary drama. Everyone will know who you are now simply because they thought you were scamming pro's. Frankly I think thats a brilliant move. Should have also put it on reddit though!
Well Played
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People take things to seriously. This is why I love eSports, it's not all business and suits and ties, we can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards.
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On April 02 2012 01:27 Tarrius wrote:
People take things to seriously. This is why I love eSports, it's not all business and suits and ties, we can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards.
And this mentality is exactly why eSports is struggling to become a legitimate business. People think it's OK to joke about being an organization that shafts players and just takes off without saying anything, possibly running away with sponsorship money.
People can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards in legitimate businesses as well, they just know how to do it right. Eclypsia, unfortunately, does not.
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On April 02 2012 01:26 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 01:19 RedBlargh wrote:
lol. good stuff. people need to lighten up, but I guess TL loves their drama and are disappointed this all turned out to be a joke. They are insulting players who have been shafted by teams in the past. It's a huge slap in the face. This is not something to joke about when the general public already thinks what we do is a joke.
And when you're being joked about taking yourself ultra ultra seriously works really well I find.
Frankly the best jokes are about the stuff you shouldn't joke about, I think this just about hit the spot.
Never heard of Eclypsia before the thread last night, but I'll actually be rooting for you guys just off this.
Well played.
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That was an awful awful april fools.
Also, DesRow, really? Such a terrible player and personality.
Really happy for all the other players though, especially artist.
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Fantastic :D LOL! Gl to you guys
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On April 02 2012 01:32 Dapper_Cad wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 01:26 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 01:19 RedBlargh wrote:
lol. good stuff. people need to lighten up, but I guess TL loves their drama and are disappointed this all turned out to be a joke. They are insulting players who have been shafted by teams in the past. It's a huge slap in the face. This is not something to joke about when the general public already thinks what we do is a joke. And when you're being joked about taking yourself ultra ultra seriously works really well I find. Frankly the best jokes are about the stuff you shouldn't joke about, I think this just about hit the spot. Never heard of Eclypsia before the thread last night, but I'll actually be rooting for you guys just off this. Well played.
Actually I have a great sense of humor. But I'm passionate about eSports and I want it to succeed as a legitimate business Wnd when conducting BUSINESS, you do not make an April fool's about that your organization is a shady organization who tricks their players to spend their own money on plane tickets and hotel, doesn't pay salary for weeks and just disappears and has been out of contact for two weeks.
That is not how you conduct business in an already struggling and quite laughable profession in the eyes of non gamers. It's not a brilliant marketing move it's a retarded marketing move.
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when you make a joke about something, you make it appear less harmful/important. You take away a lot of respect, and usually the respect was build up for a reason.
Furthermore, straight lying to my face will destroy my trust in you. Even though i knew from the first read of Welmu's post that it was supposed to be an april's fool, next time Welmu or any other Player from Eclypsia will post on the forum that they have been cheated out of their prize money or something similar, I will not be able to take it seriously.
So next time you make a joke about something, expect that you lose the trust of people. So joke about something that cannot come back to bite you.
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Well I believed it. Good one!
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I don't really know how some people didn't really see this coming. April fools is just april fools. Just have to wait until the next day to find out if it was real or not and of course it wasn't. Good one Eclypsia and welcome into the Starcraft 2 Scence!!!!!!
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Well you have successfully confused the fuck out of me.
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There is tons of others ways to hype up such announcement. I now don`t think much of this team or care.
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People take april fools jokes way too fucking far sometimes and im pretty damn sick of it. I'm good for a little joke that is clearly a joke for example : http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3477/
But this. This for one isnt funny, was never funny, and will never be funny. Joking about taking players money is a REAL thing, and its something that, although may not have happened yet, can happen at any time and is completely unacceptable.
I will not actively support this team because of this and im pretty disgusted honestly. Although i will not actively try to kill this team, i very much hope it dies in the water, as i'd hate for any team to built upon lies and a "joke".
That said, i'm glad it wasnt an actual scam. And i'm glad for the players. Except desrow, he honestly doesnt deserve anything in this scene.
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On April 02 2012 01:29 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 01:27 Tarrius wrote:
People take things to seriously. This is why I love eSports, it's not all business and suits and ties, we can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards. And this mentality is exactly why eSports is struggling to become a legitimate business. People think it's OK to joke about being an organization that shafts players and just takes off without saying anything, possibly running away with sponsorship money. People can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards in legitimate businesses as well, they just know how to do it right. Eclypsia, unfortunately, does not.
It was in bad taste, but hey, they got our attention, which was the point. IMO if you want to get attention of people, it's always better to base it off something positive than negative.
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On April 02 2012 01:44 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 01:29 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 01:27 Tarrius wrote:
People take things to seriously. This is why I love eSports, it's not all business and suits and ties, we can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards. And this mentality is exactly why eSports is struggling to become a legitimate business. People think it's OK to joke about being an organization that shafts players and just takes off without saying anything, possibly running away with sponsorship money. People can troll each other and laugh about it afterwards in legitimate businesses as well, they just know how to do it right. Eclypsia, unfortunately, does not. It was in bad taste, but hey, they got our attention, which was the point. IMO if you want to get attention of people, it's always better to base it off something positive than negative.
But attention is not always a good thing. Orb got plenty of attention just a little while ago, and he got fired for it.
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I'm a fan now. gl gg
Desrow gonna rock in a year or two, kid works seriously. I remember when we were all laughing at Huk.
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The only joke is them picking up Desrow, the rest was just meh...
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Pretty awesome, didnt expect team house from so "unknown" and new team. Nice job and gl in future
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On April 02 2012 01:50 Shameless wrote:
The only joke is them picking up Desrow, the rest was just meh...
ahah, nice one.
Great metagame joke!
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This is not brilliant, this is just shady publicity work. I bet those Eclypsia guys don't care about informing everyone that this was a hoax, a lot of negativity has been created and people were influenced in their opinion about E-Sports.
This is just low level attention wh**ing and i therefore hope that this team does not get attention and success.
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That was honestly a terrible joke.
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Can someone explain to me all the hate for Desrow. I understand he's a not an elite player by any stretch but he is an above average name for starpower so it makes sense to have him on your team from that standpoint.
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Taking things a bit too seriously... lighten up.
Grtz you guys
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... it was a terrible joke in poor taste, however, a great way to get publicity about the team and I guess, the old joke about "There's no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary" is still as true today as it ever was
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That was well played. Good luck in your tournaments!
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I enjoyed the april fools made me giggle. I'm also really happy desrow found a team! I hope he does big things this year.
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What a joke of a PR stunt.
In a community where this has actually been a problem in the past (see AZK, Virus, etc) it's extremely poor taste to use this to garner attention.
Congratulations, you used a cheap trick to gain some attention, most of it negative.
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I'm expecting an apology thread for the bad taste soon.
Also, quoting myself from the original thread:
Yes,i would also want a team where the 1st news out on TL is about it not paying its players.
Very unlikely to be a joke, and if it is, their management is really sucky.
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On April 02 2012 01:57 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Can someone explain to me all the hate for Desrow. I understand he's a not an elite player by any stretch but he is an above average name for starpower so it makes sense to have him on your team from that standpoint.
- He has a history of bm
- Some don't like big ppl
- Has numerous brief stints in various teams
- He wasn't very good when he started streaming
but obviously Eclypsia has seen his improvement since he has improved immensely from before.
so GL to them both.
Edit: I know some of you are young, but honestly lighten up. People familiar with the internet + april fools... should really expect any news after 12 to be fake or just suspicious on april 1st... Take it easy.
Edit 2: and GL with the rest of the people picked up!
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Fooled me well, good job in that part however I'm not sure if this will have any positive effect at all, or how much negative it will have.
None the less I'm glad to see a new team and well played with the april fools!
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On April 02 2012 02:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
What a joke of a PR stunt.
In a community where this has actually been a problem in the past (see AZK, Virus, etc) it's extremely poor taste to use this to garner attention.
Congratulations, you used a cheap trick to gain some attention, most of it negative.
Quoted for truth. This industry is so fragile and still growing, coupled with the fact that these problems have actually affected the community severely in the past, it's borderline insulting to have chose to use this method as a publicity stunt. In one way it has succeeded, it has made a very strong impression on me, a very poor disgusted one.
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seeing TL break down over the last thread was a highlight of the night, excellent joke!
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Bad joke- Yes
Its April, so all jokes arent going to hit home. Im sure they realise they took this joke a bit too far. I hope the team and the website does well nonetheless. The more the merrier.
But yeah, you might wanna reconsider using these sort of stunts in the future, the community is pretty scarred by likely events in the past.
gl hf!
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"he plays for eclypsia"
"eclypsia? isn't that the team that got their own player to call them illegitimate and fraudulent so they could quash accusations of being a fake team?"
"yah... thats the one"
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Only one thing to say : stay as classy as today...
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Using the one thing that really makes the SC2-community special (the empathy/caring) for an idiotic publicity stunt will bite your ass at some point.
Well played indeed, but a really f'd up sense of humor.
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People on the internet stand behind players, especially when they get screwed over. I figured that it most likely was an April Fools, but is it really fitting for a team trying to portray themselves as professionals by playing with people's good intention and concern for helping out someone in need?
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Yeah the April fools joke was a terrible, terrible idea IMO. It did absolutely nothing that this thread by itself wouldn't have done (give publicity to your team.) and it made tons of people feel bad for Welmu and speak bad about your company. I even said in the other thread if it turns out Welmu is in on it I'd be pissed. And I am.
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Glhf, but unfortunately in no mood to cheer you on at tournaments after this "prank" on the community.
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Well it got Eclypsia a lot of attention, so good job I guess.
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Just no. Sorry, but this isn't something you should joke with. I hope none of the people involved experiences a real situation like this, but karma might bite you all in the ass. Have fun with your joke team, I won't support any of the players or casters. It's unfortunate, I liked Foxy and Artist had potential, but not on this team.
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Wow, this was a horrible idea...If the community was already not taking you seriously this was the wrong way to go about changing that opinion.
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Haha I like how the community got trolled here.
And it is indeed so true that the community likes blood more than honey. This was exposed by this prank quite nicely. :D
If everything was reported to be fine on this new team, noone would have cared.
Everybody so butthurt now.
"I will never support this team in my life! I liked Artist before, but now only hate is left in my heart!"
LOL!
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team house in brussels, gotta love that ! <3
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All of you who thought this wasn't a prank need to chill your tits. It was/is April fools day, never take anything seriously. And to go so far as to say you wont support a promising new team, pack up your shit and leave. We don't need people like that in this community.
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You know some people got perma banned for your joke right?
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On April 02 2012 02:30 prOpSaiton wrote:
Glhf, but unfortunately in no mood to cheer you on at tournaments after this "prank" on the community.
You wouldn't have cheered them on anyway because you wouldn't have known who they were, because internet communities respond to drama more than unknowns announcing stuff.
Sure, they may have made some haters, but that means a bunch of people who know who they are who probably wouldn't if they had gone down the "usual" route.
They may not gain fans, but they gain acknowledgement, and based on the EG model, that's what matters the most, so you're doing your part either way.
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Sensitive kids overreacting to getting trolled? I love it! Congrats Eclypsia, I hope you guys do well.
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On April 02 2012 02:40 Arkless wrote:
You know some people got perma banned for your joke right?
That just means there are too many drama queens on TL.
Would they have been banned if it was a "normal" launch of a new team? Maybe not.
Would they have been banned eventually anyway? Probably. Just because the joke accelerated their ban, doesn't mean it caused their ban. They caused their ban, Eclypsia didn't make them say whatever they said which led to the ban.
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Ehhh. I don't really care one way or the other, but unveiling the launch of your team with a publicity stunt that was obviously going to generate a lot of negative attention probably wasn't the best idea. Particularly because if people didn't happen to read this thread, they're just going to remember that there was some sort of controversy at some point.
Anyway, GL to the people on a new team, it's always nice when players get supported. I will say that I've never heard of any of those players with the exception of desrow, who should probably do something about that weird-ass neckbeard, but I don't see why he gets so much hate; he runs a pretty good stream.
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On April 02 2012 02:42 chadissilent wrote:
Sensitive kids overreacting to getting trolled? I love it! Congrats Eclypsia, I hope you guys do well.
Yes, it's all fun and games until it happens to you. Then it's serious.
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It just wouldve made alot more sense if that thread was actually made in April. /shrugs
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On April 02 2012 02:38 Grey8 wrote:
All of you who thought this wasn't a prank need to chill your tits. It was/is April fools day, never take anything seriously. And to go so far as to say you wont support a promising new team, pack up your shit and leave. We don't need people like that in this community.
Lol pack up our shit leave? So we shouldn't have an ability to express our opinions now? TL has never been about taking that away. They have strict rules yes but that isn't one of them. And it's a very legitimate reason. They haven't apologized, they made people legitimately feel sorry for the players and I even said in the other thread I'd be pissed if the player was in on some terrible April fools joke like this. Im not gonna go as far as saying that I will never support their players. But you are the one who needs to "chill your tits" and you are the one who needs the think about your posts before posting them. Because your one of the only people here who I feels can be directly reported for bashing a lot of people's thoughts about this and telling them to pack up their shit and leave. How about say "that isn't my opinion on the matter I don't think it's a big deal." and leave it at that. You don't see anyone else who doesn't think it's a big deal telling the other people who think it's serious to "pack up their shit and leave."
Your post is simply put. Unacceptable.
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Topic must be April Fools. Never trust topics created on April 1st. Will be forgotten in about a week.
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How stupid do you need to be to do a prank like this for April fools day? Jesus.
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Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down.
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I don't even know what the fuck is going on now haha
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I'd feel pretty sad about all the people hating on eclypsia, and saying they will not support any of the casters or players because they're mad about an insensitive joke, but hell, they picked up desrow. I cant muster up any sympathy for a team that decides that they want desrow to represent them in any way.
sucks though, foxy is a great interviewer (dat accent), and I'm a big fan of welmu.
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Thats some first class insanity wolf, i've heard sponsors just love stunts like this.
I'll be massively impressed if they ever sign one, just hope Maj0r will have chance to join and leave before they disband.
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nice april fools :D this and bomber is going to military are the once that got me ... damn you all.
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On April 02 2012 02:38 Grey8 wrote:
All of you who thought this wasn't a prank need to chill your tits. It was/is April fools day, never take anything seriously. And to go so far as to say you wont support a promising new team, pack up your shit and leave. We don't need people like that in this community.
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What? We don't need people who think that teams shouldn't have to employ cheap ploys to get their name out in the scene? I don't see the wrong in having an opinion like this. What they did put a bad taste in people mouths even though it was mean't to be a joke. If you are trying to be seen as a legitimate organization perhaps the best way you get others to see you as this is to not do what Eclypsia did. Don't be so one sided and forceful dude.
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On April 02 2012 02:59 TheAntZ wrote:
I'd feel pretty depressed about all the people hating on eclypsia, and saying they will not support any of the casters or players because they're mad about an insensitive joke, but hell, they picked up desrow. I cant muster up any sympathy for a team that decides that they want desrow to represent them in any way.
I'm indifferent about their pickups, as i've never really paid any attention to them at all. but I severely dislike the organisation as a whole now after this. It's a big slap in the face after all the times it's happened in the past with teams in WC3 and SC2.
To all the people saying I and others are just salty over a "joke", consider this.
If you want to "legitimize" eSports as a lot of you say you do. Then you'd be down with this sort of behaviour. NO business does this, as their sponsors, fans and even some employees would just straight up leave the company after they realise that a core aspect of running a business like paying employees wages is just something that they can just fuck around with.
Very poor management by them, and I cannot believe so many people in this thread still support them after this.
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Welcome to the scene, but besides from that I have no more positive things to say. Anyone who thinks its funny to joke about scamming/fraud is downright ignorant and frankly disgusting.
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It was a stupid idea to make an april fools joke (if you can call it that) about your team. I hope you won't regret doing that in the future.
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On April 02 2012 03:05 Mirosuu wrote:
If you want to "legitimize" eSports
ESPORTS!
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To quote Wikipedia: "The day is marked by the commission of good-humoured or otherwise funny jokes, hoaxes, and other practical jokes". Note the word "good-humoured"? That's kind of the entire fucking point of April Fool's day. I'm terrified of the idea that the focus of this day will shift from "doing silly stuff to get people to smile" to "troll people for the lulz!" in the future just because people don't get what this day is actually about.
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Can't wait to find out their list of sponsors. Be interesting if the people paying this team thought that this joke was funny. People that are saying you need to chill out and stuff, need to wake up. This is a "professional" team, e-sports is a business, if you want to pull a joke like this, don't claim to be a professional team, or fail like the other teams who have had business models and attitudes that supported this in the past.
Assuming they do actually have sponsors, the idea of the sponsors is to get people interested in whatever it is they're about. Getting a community in an uproar is much more likely to damage the reputation of the sponsors, than the few people who enjoyed it.
Here's an example: Think of all the people this "joke" offended, if any sponsors of this team ever comes up in a casual conversation do you think they'd support them? Even if it's not a concious decision, most of those who were offended would be more likely to promote some other company who creates the same thing as the sponsor for this team.
Now look back and see how many people enjoyed this "joke" compared to how many didn't.
No, not all publicity is good for your company. This was foolish and will damage the view of your sponsors, their products and your team.
For the record I'm indifferent on the matter, just work in PR. Welcome to a PR nightmare.
Oh, and whoever said EG supports any publicity=good, you're pretty much dead wrong. They do damage control after every fiasco, and are aware of the different personality's they have signed. IdrA for example is the "e-sports bad boy."
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A lot of players have been completely fucked over by teams not paying them. This isn't funny. And I definitely will not be watching any tournament with your players in it.
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On April 02 2012 03:10 InSSerenity wrote:
For the record I'm indifferent on the matter, just work in the business industry. Welcome to a PR nightmare.
Oh, and whoever said EG supports any publicity=good, you're pretty much dead wrong. They do damage control after every fiasco, and are aware of the different personality's they have signed. IdrA for example is the "e-sports bad boy."
Wtf is the business industry?
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On April 02 2012 03:12 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:10 InSSerenity wrote:
For the record I'm indifferent on the matter, just work in the business industry. Welcome to a PR nightmare.
Oh, and whoever said EG supports any publicity=good, you're pretty much dead wrong. They do damage control after every fiasco, and are aware of the different personality's they have signed. IdrA for example is the "e-sports bad boy." Wtf is the business industry?
A mistake that occurred when thinking of one subject and typing another.
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wait so posting a post and all the complaints on march 31st... isnt an april fools joke....
so when you post everything is fine on april first this is an april fools joke?
I am so lost...
so this team is truly fake and ripped off all their players and turning it into a joke....
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On April 02 2012 03:11 Odal wrote:
A lot of players have been completely fucked over by teams not paying them. This isn't funny. And I definitely will not be watching any tournament with your players in it.
Hahaha hyperbole like this one makes me hope Eclypsia players sign up for many, many tournaments. Guess much less starcraft for you then eh?
Although I am pretty sure this statement was a straight out lie. Quite ironic given why you said it.
Shame there is no way to check if you stick with that nonsense.
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Still. Desrow on ANOTHER team.. Pretty hopeless tbh.
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Well I can say my relationship with Eclypsia started in the very least, intense.
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On April 02 2012 03:17 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:11 Odal wrote:
A lot of players have been completely fucked over by teams not paying them. This isn't funny. And I definitely will not be watching any tournament with your players in it. Hahaha hyperbole like this one makes me hope Eclypsia players sign up for many, many tournaments. Guess much less starcraft for you then eh? Although I am pretty sure this statement was a straight out lie. Quite ironic given why you said it. Shame there is no way to check if you stick with that nonsense.
I'll gladly update you via pm every time I purposely miss a tournament then.
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On April 02 2012 03:19 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:17 Redox wrote:On April 02 2012 03:11 Odal wrote:
A lot of players have been completely fucked over by teams not paying them. This isn't funny. And I definitely will not be watching any tournament with your players in it. Hahaha hyperbole like this one makes me hope Eclypsia players sign up for many, many tournaments. Guess much less starcraft for you then eh? Although I am pretty sure this statement was a straight out lie. Quite ironic given why you said it. Shame there is no way to check if you stick with that nonsense. I'll gladly update you via pm every time I purposely miss a tournament then.
stream yourself not watching the tournaments, just in case
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On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down.
Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p
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On April 02 2012 03:17 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:11 Odal wrote:
A lot of players have been completely fucked over by teams not paying them. This isn't funny. And I definitely will not be watching any tournament with your players in it. Hahaha hyperbole like this one makes me hope Eclypsia players sign up for many, many tournaments. Guess much less starcraft for you then eh? Although I am pretty sure this statement was a straight out lie. Quite ironic given why you said it. Shame there is no way to check if you stick with that nonsense.
Some people have morals. Welcome to the real world?
I really hope that if he/she sees a tournament inviting players on teams that pull this, that he links them to this thread. Let the tournaments decide if they want to be associated with people who joke about not paying wages, who's own employee's stated it was a fake team, etc.
Think I'll join him/her. Content is over saturated anyways.
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On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p
You can make an April fool's joke by being honest. It's called being clever. This wasn't clever. And an April fool's joke is supposed to be funny. This wasn't funny either.
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This wasn't funny at all guys, just confusing and weird. Your slogan is pretty hilarious though.
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On April 02 2012 03:23 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p You can make an April fool's joke by being honest. It's called being clever. This wasn't clever. And an April fool's joke is supposed to be funny. This wasn't funny either.
An april's fool is supposed to fool people, not to be funny. It is funny for the people behind the april fool who make fun of believers. When a kid sticks a fish behind your back at school (we used to do it when I was younger), it is not to make the kid with the fish on his back laugh, it is only to make fun of him.
I think that the april's fool from Eclypsia is the only good april's fool I saw this year. Sure the timemachine from reddit and the videos from google were hilarious but it never fooled me.
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On April 02 2012 03:23 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p You can make an April fool's joke by being honest. It's called being clever. This wasn't clever. And an April fool's joke is supposed to be funny. This wasn't funny either.
So it's not about making someone believe in something you made up?
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On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p
Actually, that's the best kind of April fools' joke, you know. Adblock for instance is showing cats instead of ads today. That's honest and hilarious. Wikipedia has a long history of adding strange but truthful stuff on the front page on April 1st. The art of fooling someone goes beyond "Haha lied to you and you believed me!"
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A April Fool's joke within an April Fool's joke.
Jokeception.
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On April 02 2012 03:29 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:23 SolHeiM wrote:On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p You can make an April fool's joke by being honest. It's called being clever. This wasn't clever. And an April fool's joke is supposed to be funny. This wasn't funny either. So it's not about making someone believe in something you made up?
The point is not to make them believe you are a piece of shit organization for an entire day, and then only come out with a statement saying it was just a joke, no. You're not supposed to alienate people with your April fool's.
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On April 02 2012 03:30 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p Actually, that's the best kind of April fools' joke, you know. Adblock for instance is showing cats instead of ads today. That's honest and hilarious. Wikipedia has a long history of adding strange but truthful stuff on the front page on April 1st. The art of fooling someone goes beyond "Haha lied to you and you believed me!"
That's just standard "funny" in my book. April 1st requires a level above. 
Fooling your man into believing that you are pregnant with his best friend, for example, may be a big rough tho'. :3
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so what happens next time when a player really gets scammed by a team and posts about it? this was in bad taste
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On April 02 2012 03:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:30 Conti wrote:On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p Actually, that's the best kind of April fools' joke, you know. Adblock for instance is showing cats instead of ads today. That's honest and hilarious. Wikipedia has a long history of adding strange but truthful stuff on the front page on April 1st. The art of fooling someone goes beyond "Haha lied to you and you believed me!" That's just standard "funny" in my book. April 1st requires a level above. Fooling your man into believing that you are pregnant with his best friend, for example, may be a big rough tho'. :3
But that's exactly where this kind of April Fool's joke is leading us to, isn't it? People can either try to do something clever, or they can make up a story that's so obviously no laughing matter that people won't dare to accuse it of being a joke. Eclypsia did the latter.
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Loved the joke, and while I was very suspicious from the beginning, I still loved the fact that you guys put the irony behind the fact that some people didn't believe you were a real team.
Good luck with the competitions
On April 02 2012 03:48 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 03:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 03:30 Conti wrote:On April 02 2012 03:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 02 2012 02:56 Stipulation wrote:
Lying to create drama does not cause me to respect your organization. This bs needs to be shut down. Pretty hard to make an April's fool by being honest, you know. :p Actually, that's the best kind of April fools' joke, you know. Adblock for instance is showing cats instead of ads today. That's honest and hilarious. Wikipedia has a long history of adding strange but truthful stuff on the front page on April 1st. The art of fooling someone goes beyond "Haha lied to you and you believed me!" That's just standard "funny" in my book. April 1st requires a level above. Fooling your man into believing that you are pregnant with his best friend, for example, may be a big rough tho'. :3 But that's exactly where this kind of April Fool's joke is leading us to, isn't it? People can either try to do something clever, or they can make up a story that's so obviously no laughing matter that people won't dare to accuse it of being a joke. Eclypsia did the latter.
If there are any jokes, that don't concern you directly, that you still take seriously on April 1st, then you are a bit gullible...
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Lol, what a great way to get attention, for a team.
BTW people April fools is supposed to be fun for the trickster, not the tricked.
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On April 02 2012 03:55 ejozl wrote:
Lol, what a great way to get attention, for a team.
BTW people April fools is supposed to be fun for the trickster, not the tricked.
April fool's is supposed to be enjoyable for both parties.
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Not even remotely funny or clever.
Esports has had more than its share of scammers and charlatans that take advantage of players. The fact that you would even joke about being one of them for an April Fool's joke, as a first impression of your team to the community, exudes stupidity on a level that is astonishing.
Good luck to your players. I hope your stunt doesn't end up reflecting poorly on them.
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Woah that was the worst April Joke I've seen in a long time.
Did I feel fooled after reading this? No, I just thought "They seriously thought this was a good joke in any kind of form?"
So yeah, my first impression of this team is rather meh, but then again one shouldn't care about stupid stuff like that, but it IS stupid!
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What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had.
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On April 02 2012 03:07 TheAntZ wrote:ESPORTS!
ESPORTS ESPORTS i want my team to be recognized so i do things that dont legitimize ESPORTS
-actually, this was very well done
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Yeah... not supporting this team, ever, if youre gunna pull stunts like that for attention.
gl getting sponsors and such.
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Ya got me. Hope to see good things in the future. Honestly, despite what people say, if not for the joke and the controversy, I wouldn't know who you were. Well played.
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On April 02 2012 04:06 Marcus420 wrote:
Yeah... not supporting this team, ever, if youre gunna pull stunts like that for attention.
gl getting sponsors and such.
even sponsors probably have a better sense of humor than you.
it was pretty funny, but it seemed kind of obvious to me that it was an april fools joke. I didnt realize so many people would get upset about this LOL
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On April 02 2012 04:06 Marcus420 wrote:
Yeah... not supporting this team, ever, if youre gunna pull stunts like that for attention.
gl getting sponsors and such.
If they had no money then explain to me why so many players are going to the team,,??
I applaud you Eclypsia, you seriously had me tricked at the start ;p but once I read that guy who said "go eat french fries" that's when I knew
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Thing is it's a real issue, there could be players out there being abused by their team, and I wouldn't see that as a joke. GL.
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On April 02 2012 04:06 Marcus420 wrote:
Yeah... not supporting this team, ever, if youre gunna pull stunts like that for attention.
gl getting sponsors and such.
Wow, thats an upset.
Bet they were counting on your sponsor money so hard.
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grats on finding a team desRow! Eclypsia getting a scary lineup. . .
(also not a very good April 1st prank, but we've crossed that bridge now)
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On April 02 2012 04:10 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 04:06 Marcus420 wrote:
Yeah... not supporting this team, ever, if youre gunna pull stunts like that for attention.
gl getting sponsors and such. even sponsors probably have a better sense of humor than you. it was pretty funny, but it seemed kind of obvious to me that it was an april fools joke. I didnt realize so many people would get upset about this LOL
Yeah, well the initial thread is pretty convincing. With other esports drama such as this i actually had trouble sleeping. I genuinely felt bad that players such as SLoG couldve been screwed over. (they werent and im happy about that) They had people posting saying "Im friends with_______" and he has no idea wtf is going on, and he cant contact ______"
All of it left a bad taste in my mouth... but i wish the best for eclypsia.
On April 02 2012 04:12 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 04:06 Marcus420 wrote:
Yeah... not supporting this team, ever, if youre gunna pull stunts like that for attention.
gl getting sponsors and such. Wow, thats an upset. Bet they were counting on your sponsor money so hard.
Sorry for caring about the players.
Most people would say that april fools jokes are mostly absurd or just so over the top it HAS to be fake. This was just fucked up.
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Why do teams keep picking up desrow... Haven't they learned anything?
Sup Foxy
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I wish Eclypsia good luck. Unfortunately without my support. I like April fools, but this one was, imho truly unsavory.
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What a stupid april fools idea
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Now the managers run away with the money and nobody will believe the players. What a clever intricate scam o.O
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for everyone saying it was a poor joke, retarded pr stunt ect. What do you expect when you "the community" have orgasms over retarded shit all the time? Idra leaving games already won, Casters acting surprised. Use of language by players considered racist yet generate huge PR for EG. Honestly, It was a correct choice by the team to generate PR IMO.
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You fucking trolls.
A+ job guys. Good luck with the team.
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Wow. xD
This is just horrible. I think the joke was in horrible taste.
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i hope everyone that flamed me for saying this is an april fools joke feels stupid now.
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Haters gonna hate!
Good job on owning so many people with your april first joke, don't let all these butthurt ballads tell you otherwise =)
And best of luck to your team
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Bad joke and not appropriate for an April fools' joke. This kind of thing would have been a risk even for an established esports team (which prolly would have never even considered joking about stuff as serious as salaries and management) but for a new team it's even worse. Does Eclypsia really want to be remembered as the April fools' team? The joke's on them.
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On April 02 2012 04:02 Toyman69 wrote:
What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had.
How can they lose a fan they never had?
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Good joke or bad joke, it's certainly stirring up discussion.
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Say what you say about the April's fool, but 85k views on the closed thread indicates that it was a great publicity stunt. A lot more people know about Eclypsia now than before this. Great marketing job!
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Not impressed at all. I love Artist and he MAY be the only reason I give this team a glance. The april fools thing was unfunny, poorly done.
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At least this aprils fools joke actually fools people, unlike pretty much everything else websites\organizations pull, which is purposfully made to be so over the top that nobody would ever believe it (because a lot of people take offense to being actually fooled about something) so everyone instantly knows it for what it is.
The only thing that makes this sort of less worthy for me is that it is done by a pretty unknkown team and more of a publicity stunt than an aprils fools, if say a team like EG , or Liquid, pulled a stunt like this it would be a great aprils fools joke, but that being said, probably not a great PR move/risking a lot.
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Nice troll. Wouldn't have bothered reading this thread if I hadn't read the previous thread.
Any publicity is good publicity I guess
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I don't understand why people get upset just because other teams have scammed players like this... do you think that those players sat at home and cried when they saw the Eclypsia topic? What makes you think those players who have been scammed like this gets offended?
It's like a 15 year old girl telling her mom on 1st April that she's pregnant, and all of a sudden that's way out of line because there are other girls who HAVE gotten pregnant at the age of 15 and that's very sad! Oh no!
People just want to create drama out of anything...
On April 02 2012 04:02 Toyman69 wrote:
What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had.
People like this being a very good example... how the hell can you hate on Mouz for that? They were merely poking fun at each other LOL!
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On April 02 2012 05:20 sereniity wrote:
I don't understand why people get upset just because other teams have scammed players like this... do you for some reason think that they sit at home and cry when they saw the Eclypsia topic? What makes you think those players who have been scammed like this gets offended?
It's like a 15 year old girl telling her mom on 1st April that she's pregnant, and all of a sudden that's way out of line because there are other girls who HAVE gotten pregnant at the age of 15 and that's very sad! Oh no!
People just want to create drama out of anything...
You surprised? Community that mocks reddit for being a drama center makes just as much, if not more, drama.
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Any PR is good PR I guess. Love the plan, welcome to the scene and much luck to you!
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i fell for it ! 
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On April 02 2012 05:20 sereniity wrote:
I don't understand why people get upset just because other teams have scammed players like this... do you for some reason think that they sit at home and cry when they saw the Eclypsia topic? What makes you think those players who have been scammed like this gets offended?
It's like a 15 year old girl telling her mom on 1st April that she's pregnant, and all of a sudden that's way out of line because there are other girls who HAVE gotten pregnant at the age of 15 and that's very sad! Oh no!
People just want to create drama out of anything...
Didn't realize teenage pregnancy was some sort of laughing matter now. Maybe it's cool with your friends and shit, but this is a fucking business and in business you're supposed to be proffesional about this kind of things.
Stunts like these are exactly why people still laugh if you mention pro gaming
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I understand the thought behind the joke but all it's gonna do is have people have a negative image of your organization before any more came out... why want to start like that?
Regardless glad welmu wasn't screwed over, good luck
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On April 02 2012 05:20 sereniity wrote:I don't understand why people get upset just because other teams have scammed players like this... do you think that those players sat at home and cried when they saw the Eclypsia topic? What makes you think those players who have been scammed like this gets offended? It's like a 15 year old girl telling her mom on 1st April that she's pregnant, and all of a sudden that's way out of line because there are other girls who HAVE gotten pregnant at the age of 15 and that's very sad! Oh no! People just want to create drama out of anything... Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 04:02 Toyman69 wrote:
What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had. People like this being a very good example... how the hell can you hate on Mouz for that? They were merely poking fun at each other LOL!
Just in case there are 15 year old girls reading this thread: Telling your mom that you're pregnant as an april's fool joke is out of line.
I don't think this is that bad. I mean, next time someone comes forward with something like this, they'll get asked if it's an april's fool joke. I can see how that will be annoying, but no big deal, really.
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On April 02 2012 05:02 ElectricWizard wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 04:02 Toyman69 wrote:
What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had. How can they lose a fan they never had?
He was potentially going to be a fan of their team. Now he is certain that he won't support them because of this little joke. Not hard to understand.
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On April 01 2012 23:34 Antisocialmunky wrote:
ESPORTS is trolling ESPORTS and killing ESPORTS so ESPORTS may live? :p
Indubitably my good man. But seriously guys, you spelled skyarrt's think skyarrd, need to proof read better
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On April 02 2012 05:45 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 05:02 ElectricWizard wrote:On April 02 2012 04:02 Toyman69 wrote:
What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had. How can they lose a fan they never had? He was potentially going to be a fan of their team. Now he is certain that he won't support them because of this little joke. Not hard to understand.
How can one community be so unable to take a joke is beyond me.
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How stupid... teams scamming players and not paying them is actually a very serious thing. I have no idea why anybody would use that to promote their brand.
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This has got to be the worst April's Fools ever but I'm glad there's a new great team around!
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sorry but was the worst joke ever,and a really bad way to introduce a team. but ey! here we are all talking about it.. bad publicity = good publicity
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i've already forgotten.. something... what?
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I actually love this just because it demonstrates how insane the community on these forums can be. A random post from an unknown player on a super obscure team and everyone starts jumping to radical conclusions with no hard facts at all. Troll the idiots and watch them freak out. Well done.
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here we are all talking about it.. bad publicity = good publicity
I never understood that.... such a flawed way of thinking. Why stigmatize yourself right off the bat as a joke team?
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That's so ballsy. I like it.
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On April 01 2012 23:26 Eclypsia wrote:Hi everyone, Last night, you may have read that Eclypsia was not a real team, and that their players were having problems with payment and other issues. Evidently, this is far from the truth. Ever since we launched our project we’ve faced these same doubts from the community, and despite our professionalism acquired through many years working in online business people sometimes love blood too much to appreciate the honey. So we decided to play along, after all we had nothing to lose. We contacted our players and staff with this crazy idea, and I can assure you their opinions were just as mixed as yours. Some found the idea brilliant, others thought we were just crazy. They told us we were going to burn ourselves and them at the same time. After long, in-depth discussions we decided to go for it. Our common motivation was to quash the accusation of being a “fake team”, and what better way to do that than to laugh about it on the only day of the year when it’s allowed. Returning to the controversy, there are no problems whatsoever. Welmu will be at the Copenhagen Games at our expense, Dayshi has indeed received his computer in near record time, just 7 days after signing, and all our players and staff feel very comfortable in the organisation. We may be new arrivals in e-sports but we are a company that has been thriving on the internet for more than 7 years now, and our players and staff appreciate the professional infrastructure we have in place: a lawyer to answer any questions about contracts, a department that presents the business plan to our players, they are not in the dark and can plan their careers entirely around the time they commit to the game. No more questions day after day about whether they can live on the money from their stream, slaves to the fickleness of fame. Our players can focus fully on their play, free of financial worries. Beyond our explanations we want to sincerely apologise to those who believed the original story and felt bad for our players! We have work to do to catch up, but let the Eclypsia adventure begin! Our website has launchedOur site is online in French and English. This is the launch version and will be constantly improved with new features and content. www.eclypsia.com New players have arrivedSeveral new faces from Starcraft 2 and League of Legends join us for the official launch. Artist is a Korean Terran player who previously played for fOu and Reign. He has notably won 16 Playhems and attended multiple MLGs and season 3 of the IPL. SarenS is a French Terran player. He has played for MYM, ESC, *aAa* and Cybernation. He was France’s best Brood War player, and won the first two seasons of the eOSL, a French competition organised by eGG-One. In their last tournament he faced Stephano in the final. desRow is a Canadian Protoss player. Currently living in the GOM.tv house in Korea, desRow played for Team Legion and RAGE. Skyyart is a top solo player in League of Legends. He left Sypher to join us and reunite with his old teammate ShLaYa. Skyyard won the Asus RoG tournament at Paris Games Week and had strong results at IEM New York (3rd place). The Zerg Lair’s shoutcaster commentating on our English WebTVFoxy is the creator of the Zerg Lair. She has interviewed numerous professional players and will be joining Eclypsia to cast Starcraft 2 in English and French. Two Tournaments (Starcraft 2 and League of Legends) each with a 2000 euro prize pool Eclypsia will organise two tournaments (Starcraft 2 and League of Legends) commencing on April 18th. They will each have a 2000 euro prize pool. Payment of cashprizes is guaranteed within 30 days after the final! More information will be released very soon, including the teams that will be participating. A gaming house in BrusselsOur players are going to live in Brussels, capital of Belgium and center of the European Union. The opening will take place in about a month. Have a good day everybody! We love you! P.S : Our players wanted to say a few words about the April Fools
Dayshi: I loved participating in this diabolical plan. Thanks to everyone who supports me and I apologise for having so much fun tricking you!
Pouilleux : April 1st required a little joke from Eclypsia. Don’t worry, this organisation keeps its promises and looks very exciting. In a week we’ll meet the French public at Gamers Assembly ! If you don’t see us there check out eclypsia.com, this is going to be one of the great stories in e-sports.
ELVIS: That was fun. I put some doubts in peoples minds by continuing to stream on Eclypsia TV. Sorry to all those who asked me for information and who I didn’t reply to, I couldn’t upset the plan!
ShLaYa: The principle is simply Machiavellian! From a seed of genius! It was a pleasure to participate indirectly and to watch it play out
.SLoG : It’s great to be part of the team. The April Fools was funny until everyone started sending me messages in private that I had to ignore (sorry guys!)
desRow: I’m really pleased to join a new team. I can already tell you that they will be sending me to the MLG Fall Championship. I will also be streaming from time to time on Eclypsia TV. Follow me on the social networking sites. Thanks to all my fans who have supported me since early 2011.
Artist : I’ve finally found a team after a long time, and I’m not going to waste anybodies time! I will give my very best.
Our SC2 Team: Jo " Artist" Min Ho Pierre " SarenS" Guivarch Antoine " ELVIS" Paquay Antoine " Dayshi" Stievenart Marc-Olivier " desRow" Proulx Vesa " Welmu" Hovinen Andrew " SLoG" An Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/EclypsiaCOMTwitter : https://twitter.com/#!/EclypsiaCOMWebsite : http://www.eclypsia.com
It was blatantly obvious especially with the Verdi ordeal and this kind of humor is right up Slog's alley.
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On April 02 2012 05:36 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 05:20 sereniity wrote:I don't understand why people get upset just because other teams have scammed players like this... do you think that those players sat at home and cried when they saw the Eclypsia topic? What makes you think those players who have been scammed like this gets offended? It's like a 15 year old girl telling her mom on 1st April that she's pregnant, and all of a sudden that's way out of line because there are other girls who HAVE gotten pregnant at the age of 15 and that's very sad! Oh no! People just want to create drama out of anything... On April 02 2012 04:02 Toyman69 wrote:
What a pathetic way to get into the spotlight, reminds me of the twitter from Mouz just trying to incite shit with EG, and then later Liquid. You lost a fan you could of had. People like this being a very good example... how the hell can you hate on Mouz for that? They were merely poking fun at each other LOL! Just in case there are 15 year old girls reading this thread: Telling your mom that you're pregnant as an april's fool joke is out of line. I don't think this is that bad. I mean, next time someone comes forward with something like this, they'll get asked if it's an april's fool joke. I can see how that will be annoying, but no big deal, really.
I saw loads of April Fools today that were just as bad if not worse than teenage pregnancy, some1 with a stroke etc.
I guess different people draw the line at different levels, which is also why some people are okay with this and some aren't.
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On April 02 2012 06:32 Beakyboo wrote:
I actually love this just because it demonstrates how insane the community on these forums can be. A random post from an unknown player on a super obscure team and everyone starts jumping to radical conclusions with no hard facts at all. Troll the idiots and watch them freak out. Well done.
Yeah I'd have to agree with this lol, people WANT it to be the worst, therefore they won't think logically.
Why the hell would Welmu happen to post it on the 1st of April, and his whole team happens to respond to it within an hour, and then there were posts such as these from the managers that just made it blatantly obvious:
Taip
To be honest, I'm very disappointed. Eclypsia contacted me at the beginning of March to manage their team. Now I'm listed as a coach, they've recruited other managers, and I don't have a fucking clue what's going on. I didn't get any of the salary I was promised either and I can't reach any of their staff on skype, this is a really sad situation.
BLAST.Mgk's reply
Taip, you just say shit ! I became manager because I was better. Nevertheless, I don't have any news of the staff too, but it's the week-end...
Just eat french fries Taip, thank you.
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I suggest you hire a PR manager; strange way to announce your team publicly, albeit pretty hilarious. That being said, nice you guys have a very roster, Artist being the pick of the bunch.
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Haha, this was awesome :D
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Worst aprils fool this year... I had low expectations when I first heard about the team. But then I feelt that "hey they look lika a ok new team lets see how it turns out" and now this... I am just dissapointed and will not be a fan of this team at all. Some may have found this joke funny. For me it was just in very poor taste.
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There is no such thing as bad PR.
What the people who rage at the whole thing don't realize is: Now you have heard about Eclypsia. Before that you didn't. And a random "NEW PRO TEAM RISING OMG" post would have made less people aware of their existance than this.
tl;dr: Profit.
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Well, on one hand I only knew enough about your team to recognize the name. Eventually I would have found out more about it because I like some of the people on your team and that would have caught my interest just fine. Now... well, you got my attention? Except now my opinion isn't "Cool, a player I like found a good home. Maybe I'll go check them out to see who else is involved with them." and is instead very negative because I do not think this was an acceptable thing to joke about.
People keep bringing up the saying "all publicity is good publicity". How about another saying "first impressions are everything"? Sometimes I have to wonder how much business experience some of the people on TL actually have(I'm going with very little). How often do you see something that sheds a big company, organization, some(I guess) celebrities in a negative light and they just sit back and go fuck yea ! we're getting publicity ! people think we're shit but at least they know about us ! No, what happens the vast majority of the time is their PR/marketing team springs into action to mitigate the damage to their credibility and reputation. Even better if they can manage to spin it around into something positive. They don't pay those people out of the goodness of their hearts.
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First team that I will be an anti-fan of.
Not clever, not funny and attention-whorish.
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On April 02 2012 08:04 HorsemasterK wrote:
First team that I will be an anti-fan of.
Not clever, not funny and attention-whorish.
Awe! Someone's mad because they got fooled on april fools! How cute!
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On April 02 2012 07:46 r.Evo wrote:
There is no such thing as bad PR.
What the people who rage at the whole thing don't realize is: Now you have heard about Eclypsia. Before that you didn't. And a random "NEW PRO TEAM RISING OMG" post would have made less people aware of their existance than this.
tl;dr: Profit.
I know about them now, but I will not be supporting them, where as I would have before if they had just been announced normally.
This example of bad pr is bad pr
Edit: I'm honestly shocked about how little some people here seem to know about business and marketing in general
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The team looks a bit weak (which is understandable as it is a new team), but has a lot of potential. I would say Artist and Welmu are their strongest players at the moment, even though I am unaware of how good Slog and Sarens are at this time.
I personally don't mind the ballsy prank, even though it really bordered poor taste.
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On April 02 2012 08:07 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 08:04 HorsemasterK wrote:
First team that I will be an anti-fan of.
Not clever, not funny and attention-whorish. Awe! Someone's mad because they got fooled on april fools! How cute!
Someone thinks all falsehoods are funny. How simple!
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On April 02 2012 08:07 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 08:04 HorsemasterK wrote:
First team that I will be an anti-fan of.
Not clever, not funny and attention-whorish. Awe! Someone's mad because they got fooled on april fools! How cute!
Not really, most of mad people here didn't get fooled, they just think the joke was very stupid ( so do I ), but at least worked for make people aware of the team(in a very bad way).
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On April 02 2012 08:10 0kz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 08:07 PanN wrote:On April 02 2012 08:04 HorsemasterK wrote:
First team that I will be an anti-fan of.
Not clever, not funny and attention-whorish. Awe! Someone's mad because they got fooled on april fools! How cute! Not really, most of mad people here didn't get fooled, they just think the joke was very stupid ( so do I ), but at least worked for make people aware of the team(in a very bad way).
I am pretty sure most people were fooled.
Including some of those that are not mad about it (like me :D).
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In a community chalk full of trolls, even professional interviewers and players are trolls and sometimes "bad mannered..." (See HotBid and IdrA) IdrA has the largest fan base in all e-sports. (as far as I can tell.)
How could any be so confrontational and negative about this particular launch of a team?? What do you know that they don't? "This is the end for you guys, before it even started! BAD P.R., bad p.r. BRO~"
Seriously? Shove it, guys. You aren't the good P.R. police.
Edit: It's ALSO April Fools. How many times must this day remind you of itself?
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Wait so wtf is goin on there comments after are confusing is this a fucking team or not and wtf was the joke.
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The ONE day of the year when you're not allowed to cry and moan about being tricked.. and what do we have here on TL? A bunch of people stuck on the notion that we're curing cancer on this site and we mustn't ever smile or take ourselves lightly, moaning and crying their hearts out. Try not to take yourselves too seriously, its good for the ego to have it's feathers ruffled every now and again.
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I first heard of this team by that ''fake'' scam uproar. You have no idea how it tarnished my view on this compagny. There are too many scams, failed events, greedy sponsor that exploits people in e-sports and you thought ''Hey, let's look like absolute assholes, people will love us!''.
Even coming around saying ''nah, was a joke'' still will never wash the first impression you gave me.
Congratulation on building up the team. Best of luck to the players. But I will not be following the progress.
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This is a lot like that Simpsons episode with the angel statue.
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Did some people actually believe it was true? On April 1st?
I mean, it wasn't the most inspired joke ever, but at least I'll remember them now.
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Yeah it wasnt the best joke ever but still a good idea, they got a lot of attention.
Another gaming house in Europe?! This is great great news!
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I still am trying to figure out how they finance their operations. They seem to have no sponsors at all on their website and could not find any link to any company. Unless that gets cleared out, I am still sceptical about it.
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This one and Bombers where the only april jokes that I kind of believed, well played.
Though I'm still kind of pissed that you guys started the team about 3 days after me and my rl friends decided to rename ourselves to ecName for our own esl amateur clan ._.
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Also, I see no reason why people should be pissed, april fool jokes wouldn't be as fun if all of them where obvious and totally unoffensive.
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oh well . i will definitely remember them now. first impression indeed. as team who decided to insult and make light of all the former teams and players who actually suffered from scams and malpractices within the esports industry. i didnt think i was real but couldnt believe that a new team would actually decide to shit on their fellow peers who had suffered.
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LIke I said in the other thread, this was a terrible idea by you.
What you describe as a " joke " happens to people all the time in this business, It's in horrible taste to make fun of such situations.
Really pathetic using the fact that people will pay attention to a thread about the subject of a team being a scam to gain publicity, you get no respect from me.
Come up with a better joke next year...If you're even still around.
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Jokes of this caliber are unhealthy for the eSport scene and proves a lack of professionalism.
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bad joke is not funny. i won't support this unprofessional team.
plus, they have desrow, who i abhor
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On April 01 2012 23:39 SlitZ wrote:
What a retarded way to get publicity.
I hope you guys go out the same way as you came crawling in.
Ya I don't like it either. Caused too much of a commotion with something that has happened too many times before.
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made your video intro its very good !!
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On April 02 2012 08:17 Brotatoes23 wrote:
In a community chalk full of trolls, even professional interviewers and players are trolls and sometimes "bad mannered..." (See HotBid and IdrA) IdrA has the largest fan base in all e-sports. (as far as I can tell.)
How could any be so confrontational and negative about this particular launch of a team?? What do you know that they don't? "This is the end for you guys, before it even started! BAD P.R., bad p.r. BRO~"
Seriously? Shove it, guys. You aren't the good P.R. police.
Edit: It's ALSO April Fools. How many times must this day remind you of itself?
I would just like to point out that e-sports isn't SC2 alone. IdrA may or may not have the highest in sc2, impossible to track or tell one way or the other. But at the same time his stream doesn't break 20k+ like some of the LoL players (example: Dyrus, who has 10k+ every time he streams regardless of time.)
Btw, the community is the PR police. It's their job quite literally to make us want to support them by supporting their sponsors who pay for them to do what they love.
So yes. It IS the community's job to be their PR police, if they offend us it makes us less likely to purchase/use the product their sponsors are trying to advertise. If we don't let them know they offended us then they're that much more likely to fail when the sponsors aren't feeling like they're getting the ROI they paid for without a valid reason.
Side note: This is not meant to insult IdrA in any way, he is my favorite sc2 player, but numbers wise he's far from the most popular character in e-sports.
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I'll be rather upset if they make some sort of apology for this as it's completely unnecessary. The vocal part of the community posting here is completely idiotic. They got trolled on april fools and they're pissed about it. You'll do fine, especially with your pick ups.
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On April 02 2012 09:08 Theovide wrote:
Also, I see no reason why people should be pissed, april fool jokes wouldn't be as fun if all of them where obvious and totally unoffensive.
The average age of people on this board is about 15 years old. Immature people get mad at stupid things, it's a fact of life.
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You are terrible -.-
And here I was feeling bad for poor Welmu and the rest of Eclypsia.
Shame on you, shame on you.
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The Eclypsia logo looks so sick. Will be following you guys.
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That was an absolutely great April Fools in my opinion. The only reason it didnt fool me is because I didnt see it in time but I would totally have been got. Having a lot of trouble understanding the backlash against it to be honest, surely these guys are good guys for gaming given the fact that they ARNT screwing their players around. People are getting more annoyed at them for this than they do at teams and organisations who actually treat players badly.
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I'm having a hard time understanding this opinion that everyone who thinks this was a joke in poor taste is automatically someone bitter about getting fooled by it. By the time I read the previous thread it was full of people listing out the reasons it was an obvious april fools joke or people saying if it was all a joke, it was a very bad one. Maybe I'm missing something since I wasn't there from the begining and thus, never had a chance to be fooled but I still think it was a very poor joke.
Granted, where I grew up April Fool's day jokes were supposed to "fool" people but do so in such a way that everyone could have a laugh about it afterwards. Perhaps that's why I find this so stupid.
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Good luck not a bad line-up and im happy to see desrow in a team again.
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On April 02 2012 10:19 giuocob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 09:08 Theovide wrote:
Also, I see no reason why people should be pissed, april fool jokes wouldn't be as fun if all of them where obvious and totally unoffensive. The average age of people on this board is about 15 years old. Immature people get mad at stupid things, it's a fact of life.
Quite the opposite actually. Mature people know not to joke about such things in a proffesional setting
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We need a poll in here:
Poll: How annoyed are you about this stunt?Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done. (59) 45% Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste. (38) 29% Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing. (26) 20% Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it. (7) 5% 130 total votes Your vote: How annoyed are you about this stunt? (Vote): Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done.
(Vote): Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing.
(Vote): Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste.
(Vote): Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it.
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Wait... the team itself is not a joke?? hahaha! Zing!
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On April 02 2012 12:28 qazadex wrote:We need a poll in here: Poll: How annoyed are you about this stunt?Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done. (59) 45% Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste. (38) 29% Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing. (26) 20% Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it. (7) 5% 130 total votes Your vote: How annoyed are you about this stunt? (Vote): Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done.
(Vote): Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing.
(Vote): Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste.
(Vote): Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it.
Think you need a "I actually enjoyed it" option
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On April 02 2012 12:34 BigLighthouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 12:28 qazadex wrote:We need a poll in here: Poll: How annoyed are you about this stunt?Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done. (59) 45% Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste. (38) 29% Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing. (26) 20% Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it. (7) 5% 130 total votes Your vote: How annoyed are you about this stunt? (Vote): Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done.
(Vote): Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing.
(Vote): Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste.
(Vote): Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it.
Think you need a "I actually enjoyed it" option
Yeah, I should have put that in, as I did as well.
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Eh, shit joke for a new team. Enjoy the mixed publicity for your team I guess.
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I will say, this is a whole lot funnier if you didnt get caught up/read about the drama beforehand lol Seems like the joke is much better in concept.
I hate April Fool's Jokes in general anyways, they are either A: Obvious and mehfunny, B: Bring you up then tear you down, or C: Tear you down and says "JK LULZ".
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Wont be supporting this team. The idea for this "joke" was obvious and in bad taste. Plus all of these players are low tier.
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On April 02 2012 13:17 aike wrote:
Wont be supporting this team. The idea for this "joke" was obvious and in bad taste. Plus all of these players are low tier.
If they had the best players in the world I really doubt you'd support them either. Your last line was just a cheap shot because you got fooled!
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lol, great trolling. I'm just glad that no players were harmed in the making of this joke (yay welmu) I appreciate the balls to stir up a false controversy and good ol fashion esports drama for the sake of a good, harmless joke. Congrats on your new additions. I'm looking forward to Foxy's casting. I've enjoyed her casts in the past and she has a great voice and ofc is very pretty. Good Luck!
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On April 02 2012 12:34 BigLighthouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 12:28 qazadex wrote:We need a poll in here: Poll: How annoyed are you about this stunt?Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done. (59) 45% Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste. (38) 29% Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing. (26) 20% Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it. (7) 5% 130 total votes Your vote: How annoyed are you about this stunt? (Vote): Don't care, it was an April fool's prank. No harm done.
(Vote): Don't care personally, but think it could be bad marketing.
(Vote): Joke was disrespectful and done in bad taste.
(Vote): Will never watch a tournament with Eclypsia players in it.
Think you need a "I actually enjoyed it" option
Seconded, was actually the best April Fools joke around IMO
Got to also laugh at the people raging about it, jeez some people lol. Folks shouldn't take drama threads seriously, especially when they are posted on April the the first! Honestly, in this day and age I didn't think people were this gullible.
And remember, there's no such thing as bad publicity!
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I am among the people that think that April Fools' day is actually about fooling people. It's not just saying another random joke like any other day. That's why it is a special day. You can fool people and get away with it.
I applaud any team that is actively hiring new blood -"uknowns" as some people posted in this thread- and provides a good and supportive enviroment for them to work in. This gives hope to talented players that they can follow their dream and maybe some day become part of a bigger team or even better, make Eclypsia a worthy team to be in.
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People are talking about this company/team, even if they are upset. It's good marketing, even if a few hold a grudge towards them.
I really don't think that them making a team and just posting this opening thread would give them so much feedback other than the usual "GL to..." ..
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On April 01 2012 23:39 SlitZ wrote:
What a retarded way to get publicity.
I hope you guys go out the same way as you came crawling in.
ya this
rely on something less tacky to make your first appearance. peace.
e- also you have desrow? did he agree to join for free? why would anyone hire such a notorious bm'er who isn't even good. might as well pick up major to skew the bm:tourney results even more into your favor.
User was warned for this post
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I think it belittled one of the only resources those truly in need had use of.
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On April 02 2012 17:47 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 23:39 SlitZ wrote:
What a retarded way to get publicity.
I hope you guys go out the same way as you came crawling in. ya this rely on something less tacky to make your first appearance. peace. e- also you have desrow? did he agree to join for free? why would anyone hire such a notorious bm'er who isn't even good. might as well pick up major to skew the bm:tourney results even more into your favor.
Major is good though, unlike desrow.
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I don't understand why teams keep picking up Desrow. There are plenty of players who are just as good but don't cause problems. Money is better invested else where... Just my opinion though.
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I found this hilarious actually. It pokes fun at how the SC2 community as a whole are drama whores and care more about e-gossip than the game. Seriously, look how freaking easy it was to start a witch hunt.. Focus more on the game than the drama.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
Oh dear oh dear.
Oh well good luck. Artist is a pretty solid player, so you have a nice ace.
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Why all the flag on the wiki link are north american ?
There are some mistakes.
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An example of an April fools joke that was actually funny.
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And for every1 who didn't read this topic, but did read or hear about the other will now forever think eclypsia are a bunch of scammers.
Good way to shoot yourself the in the foot.
It's also not that funny, cause it's so very common in gaming (especially in a games other then starcraft).
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Nice fake, we don't give a fuck
Eclypsia has a really weir line up, i don't understand... Artist is really good, SLoG always made good results in code B... But Dayshi? oO ELVIS? oO
SarenS in dead, not scoring anything since he left aAa, Welmu has a decent 4 gate push... And? Nothing else :/
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Well if nothing else, the team put themselves on the map no? Successful PR campaign if you asked me.
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Just looked at their stream yesterday, something like 1k viewers... How comes? Most of the teams don't get more than 400-500 viewers even if they are very famous teams (fantic, mouz...) How can this team grow up that fast ? : /
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On April 02 2012 20:50 Finleght wrote:
Just looked at their stream yesterday, something like 1k viewers... How comes? Most of the teams don't get more than 400-500 viewers even if they are very famous teams (fantic, mouz...) How can this team grow up that fast ? : /
Because of this april fools joke that everyone is saying will kill the team and not get them fans
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This goes in the 'stupid' category to me. Making jokes about the bad stuff in life is natural, but faking a really negative thing and then going "LOL APRIL FOOLS"? There's no humour there, that's just making a mockery of the people who it has happened to.
No one's going "Oh damn, I'm so gullible LOL," here, they're going "wow, that was bad taste".
You can satirize bad stuff, but don't mimic it. Believably faking something serious just makes fun of everyone who gave a shit.
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On April 02 2012 20:50 Finleght wrote:
Just looked at their stream yesterday, something like 1k viewers... How comes? Most of the teams don't get more than 400-500 viewers even if they are very famous teams (fantic, mouz...) How can this team grow up that fast ? : /
Don't worry, in a week they're back at 50 viewers. PR stunts like this don't last very long.
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I'm not saying it'll kill the team, quite the contrary it's put them into the same "love them or hate them" column as EG, as opposed to the "Love them, like them, or generally apathetic" you get from Liquid. Seems like it'll be a decent way to keep them in the limelight for a couple months if nothing else.
However, I don't like being a punching bag over things I care about. It's like telling a PETA supporter you just turned their purebred dalmations into a fur coat and then returning the dogs the next day. It's mean, and if there's one thing you shouldn't really play with regardless of the day it's the hearts of the converted. Those of us who were truly insulted by the joke are those who truly want the scene to succeed in a way it hasn't before. We don't want players we know and respect to get fucked over by any team, as it's happened before and affects the livelihoods of those we want to see time and time again. If any of the Liquid guys did the same, I'm sure the response would be considerably worse. It simply isn't a good idea.
I will legitimately be boycotting this team for what I feel was an insult. This is my decision based on my personal values. I understand it wont cause these guys to lose a single dollar, but I have my beliefs to keep intact, similarly to how Liquid felt over the MLG PPV calendar thing. MLG still made a lot of money, Liquid kept true to their beliefs, and everyone was content if not happy.
The only thing that still truly bothers me is that the management used the players to do their dirty work. Apalling.
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I hope that this is only part 1 of the joke, and part 2 is the players on this team actually being scammed and being unable to complain about it for the relentless mockery that would follow. Here's hoping!
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It was an April Fools joke, an extremely obvious one too.
Holy fucking shit, calm down. Don't be so mad that you all got trolled like retards.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On April 01 2012 23:44 imZcK wrote:
So one of the reasons people believed the joke was because no one could find the team's sponsors, I still can't. Do you guys have sponsors?
Probably a sweet sugardaddy behind all of this!
I think it was a new way of getting attention but I really did not like due the negative effects it could have had on you.
Great seeing a new team and I hope you will do well!
No more jokes please!
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why it isn't in community news btw? it's big additions, a lot of hype...
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the only thing offensive about this team is that they stream through dailymotion.
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Remember boys 'n girls, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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On April 03 2012 02:33 Dagobert wrote:
Remember boys 'n girls, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
That's just a silly myth. You think BP was happy about all the attention they got when the oil spill happened?
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On April 03 2012 02:59 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 02:33 Dagobert wrote:
Remember boys 'n girls, there's no such thing as bad publicity. That's just a silly myth. You think BP was happy about all the attention they got when the oil spill happened?
Doesn't look so bad, actually.
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/BP_(BP)
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That wasn't fun at all, but if it was fun I'd probably enjoy it.
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On April 03 2012 06:47 Dagobert wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 02:59 Conti wrote:On April 03 2012 02:33 Dagobert wrote:
Remember boys 'n girls, there's no such thing as bad publicity. That's just a silly myth. You think BP was happy about all the attention they got when the oil spill happened? Doesn't look so bad, actually. http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/BP_(BP)
Yes it does look bad. Their stock went 60 -> 27 in the 2 months following the spill. Today it is 45, but not near early 2010 levels despite inflation and overall market growth.
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Foxy is hot... Definitely plan on listening to her casts.
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I'm gonna keep my eyes open for these up and coming players in the future! I really hope this team takes off! =D
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wow nice news. hope to see them winning any major tournement!
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On April 02 2012 21:17 Noobity wrote:
I'm not saying it'll kill the team, quite the contrary it's put them into the same "love them or hate them" column as EG, as opposed to the "Love them, like them, or generally apathetic" you get from Liquid. Seems like it'll be a decent way to keep them in the limelight for a couple months if nothing else.
However, I don't like being a punching bag over things I care about. It's like telling a PETA supporter you just turned their purebred dalmations into a fur coat and then returning the dogs the next day. It's mean, and if there's one thing you shouldn't really play with regardless of the day it's the hearts of the converted. Those of us who were truly insulted by the joke are those who truly want the scene to succeed in a way it hasn't before. We don't want players we know and respect to get fucked over by any team, as it's happened before and affects the livelihoods of those we want to see time and time again. If any of the Liquid guys did the same, I'm sure the response would be considerably worse. It simply isn't a good idea.
I will legitimately be boycotting this team for what I feel was an insult. This is my decision based on my personal values. I understand it wont cause these guys to lose a single dollar, but I have my beliefs to keep intact, similarly to how Liquid felt over the MLG PPV calendar thing. MLG still made a lot of money, Liquid kept true to their beliefs, and everyone was content if not happy.
The only thing that still truly bothers me is that the management used the players to do their dirty work. Apalling.
A lot of people dislike Teamliquid, the reason you don't hear about it as much is because there are no other hubs for sc2 like teamliquid where a potential disdain could be discovered.
I don't get why anyone would be outraged by this....>_>
It was an april fools day prank that thematically made sense and got people talking about them. There's a thin line between love and hate, especially when you contrast that with apathy.
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Desrow streaming! Dailymotion seems to have sombe troubles with streaming from korea...
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Yes,
we will solve this problem as soon as possible.
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On April 02 2012 10:00 InSSerenity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 08:17 Brotatoes23 wrote:
In a community chalk full of trolls, even professional interviewers and players are trolls and sometimes "bad mannered..." (See HotBid and IdrA) IdrA has the largest fan base in all e-sports. (as far as I can tell.)
How could any be so confrontational and negative about this particular launch of a team?? What do you know that they don't? "This is the end for you guys, before it even started! BAD P.R., bad p.r. BRO~"
Seriously? Shove it, guys. You aren't the good P.R. police.
Edit: It's ALSO April Fools. How many times must this day remind you of itself? I would just like to point out that e-sports isn't SC2 alone. IdrA may or may not have the highest in sc2, impossible to track or tell one way or the other. But at the same time his stream doesn't break 20k+ like some of the LoL players (example: Dyrus, who has 10k+ every time he streams regardless of time.) Btw, the community is the PR police. It's their job quite literally to make us want to support them by supporting their sponsors who pay for them to do what they love. So yes. It IS the community's job to be their PR police, if they offend us it makes us less likely to purchase/use the product their sponsors are trying to advertise. If we don't let them know they offended us then they're that much more likely to fail when the sponsors aren't feeling like they're getting the ROI they paid for without a valid reason. Side note: This is not meant to insult IdrA in any way, he is my favorite sc2 player, but numbers wise he's far from the most popular character in e-sports.
A fair and truthful point. I said as far as I know because I don't follow the LoL.
You seemed to miss my point completely about the launch of their team and just wanted to nitpick.
The point is they will be talked about "Bad PR" or "Good PR" is still just "PR." Good or Bad is irrelevant. (Paris Hilton Sex Video? Public TV nipple slips, etc.) They are being talked about. Now (Eclypsia) they have to prove themselves. BMing his way to the top, IdrA wasn't dismissed like Deezer or CombatEX, though he's been BM since SC1, he has proved himself and still has LOTS of fans. It had nothing to do with my post being 100% accurate to you or anyone else, it's a minor example. Thanks anyways.
Once Eclypsia proves themselves as a formidable team, people will forget this shit and probably look back at how ridiculous they acted over it.
Do I need to remind you it was April Fools.....
It was April Fools. How many times must it be mentioned.
It was April Fools.
It was April Fools.
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I think it was a master piece if you consider it from there perspective.
They thought that people were already considering them as a fake team and thus already had the requtation the joke could potnetialy have incured. Now im not saying thats factual just that it was what they thought.
I was so fooled and now i wont ever forget them. gg wp
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Norway25712 Posts
Not a bad lineup at all. Looking forward to see desRow in action again :>
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What a foolish way to release something of this magnitude! Good luck to all the new players. I hope they will get a chance to compete in all the big European LAN events in 2012.
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Glad Artist found a home.
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good luck in the future!
love to see more and more gaming houses being opened! this just showes the confidence and determination that many people have towards sc2.
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