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Is the Razer Naga allowed in pro play?

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DeOnlineGamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:21:18
March 10 2012 14:17 GMT
#1
Hi guys

I have a Razer Naga and I have really got used to using the buttons on the side of the mouse instead of the keyboard for my control groups. I don't use any of the macro's or bind anything apart from the numbers 1-12 that is on the mouse by default.

So I want to know for example if TLO showed up to a tournament with a razer naga and the same set-up no binds no macros just using the numbers on the mouse instead of the keyboard would it be allowed?

(edit: I doubt TLO uses this mouse just an example)
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 10 2012 14:20 GMT
#2
depends on the tournament, but considering there is no "one button for multiple action" enabled, I see nothing morally unacceptable at allowing it.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
March 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#3
If they were not binded to anything, I assume they would be alright.
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SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#4
It depends on tournaments. At lan competitions, its a grey area where people don't really care. but for major tournaments, its not allowed as people could anytime bind some other macros to it.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
March 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#5
simple questions thread
Inside.Out
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:22:16
March 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#6
I'm pretty sure that mouses with however many individual buttons are fine. The problem comes from 'macro keys', generally on keyboards, that can execute a preset string of button pushes. For example, I use a Razer mouse with additional buttons, and I have several important hotkeys bound there (v, b, c, something else), but i also have 10 macro keys on my board that I could bind something like '4,4,v' which would select and focus my screen to my first queen, and inject, all with one button. I don't do the second one because that is definitely illegal, but the first one is fine (i think), as long as you're keeping one button press on one button.
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 10 2012 14:22 GMT
#7
On March 10 2012 23:21 SeventhPride wrote:
It depends on tournaments. At lan competitions, its a grey area where people don't really care. but for major tournaments, its not allowed as people could anytime bind some other macros to it.


Edit: What the guy two post above me said, that is assuming you can't bind more then 1 command to it.
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
March 10 2012 14:24 GMT
#8
pretty sure its fine, its not any different than most other razer mice except it has more physical buttons. you can still for example make a side button on the deathadder into a macro that is not allowed. its more of the software, not the actual mouse
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
March 10 2012 14:25 GMT
#9
On March 10 2012 23:22 SeventhPride wrote:
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On March 10 2012 23:21 SeventhPride wrote:
It depends on tournaments. At lan competitions, its a grey area where people don't really care. but for major tournaments, its not allowed as people could anytime bind some other macros to it.


Edit: What the guy two post above me said, that is assuming you can't bind more then 1 command to it.


I don't know, but I think my drivers allow me to add more than one command to my logitech, deathadder, and SS mice. I know for sure on my logitech and DA I can program extra commands. Don't know how tournaments handle this b/c I think with most mice you can add multiple commands to the unused buttons.
Talho
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium592 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:31:48
March 10 2012 14:27 GMT
#10
On March 10 2012 23:21 SeventhPride wrote: for major tournaments, its not allowed as people could anytime bind some other macros to it.


You can bind a macro anywhere ("F1-F12", even "a-z") The mouse doesn't have anything to do with it.

Yes that mouse is allowed even at MAJOR tournies, but it still needs to be 1keypress = 1 action
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
March 10 2012 14:39 GMT
#11
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:57:13
March 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#12
On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this


Can't tell whether this is a diss or not, probably quoting pro since that's the word OP used (not as an insult to Dario being considered a pro).

Fuck it, START THIS DRAMA TRAIN, THINK THE WORST OF THIS STATEMENT PEOPLE GOGOGOGO!

Edit: you > OP to avoid confusion

Double edit: OP doesn't specifically use pro, just implies it since he says TLO in a tournament setting.
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Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
March 10 2012 15:01 GMT
#13
Yeah I don't know why people always mention the fact that can make macros with it when EVERY GOD DAMN KEYBOARD that pros use have the same functionality. I use the razer naga and I love it. I'd use it even w/o the side panel of buttons just because it feels so nice. For starcraft, the only use it gets is when i'm adding things to control groups I find it easier to use the side panel (so shift 1-0 and ctrl 1-0) if hitting the button just to select the control group i'll hit the keyboard key for 1-6 but the mouse key for 7-0. I think as long as I'm able to use the mouse I won't be developing bad mechanics, but to dismiss the mouse because it can create macros (which it doesn't by default and unlike alot of keyboards it doesn't possess the ability to do so with onboard memory)
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:04:53
March 10 2012 15:03 GMT
#14
On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this

not sure what..?
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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
March 10 2012 15:08 GMT
#15
You can use any mouse or keyboard in every tournament, just if you use Macro´s you may earn this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146760
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 10 2012 15:13 GMT
#16
If you have to use specific drivers for that mouse you will have to ask the tournaments people if that is allowed. If you can play without those drivers it is definitely allowed.
However i do not recommend to use these buttons, they might appear to be faster than keyboard keys, but they won't be faster after practicing a bit with your keyboard.
InFaMOUS793
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:16:18
March 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#17
[QUOTE]On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this [/
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UrielSC
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:21:17
March 10 2012 15:19 GMT
#18
On March 10 2012 23:21 ThatGuy89 wrote:
simple questions thread


Doesn't seem like that simple of a question,
Seems a little more complicated with binded buttons and rules allowing that.
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LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
March 10 2012 15:24 GMT
#19
On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this


what?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2012 15:32 GMT
#20
Are the buttons even that easy to press or do you have to really pressed down on them.
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