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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:40:13
March 10 2012 15:39 GMT
#21
On March 11 2012 00:24 LaM wrote:
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On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this


what?


TLO pretty much has based his entire pro gaming career on innovating. I don't think any pro gamers use the naga mouse, even thought it could potentially give you an edge (by simply having more buttons at your fingertips. Not talking about macros), but if someone was to use it, it would surely be TLO.
Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
March 10 2012 19:05 GMT
#22
since day one i've had ctrl bound to the side button on my razer mamba. it makes for amazingly easy hotkeying. i never have to make a weird hand shape trying to hit ctrl+6 ^_^
Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
March 10 2012 19:09 GMT
#23
On March 10 2012 23:55 Risen wrote:
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On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this


Can't tell whether this is a diss or not, probably quoting pro since that's the word OP used (not as an insult to Dario being considered a pro).

Fuck it, START THIS DRAMA TRAIN, THINK THE WORST OF THIS STATEMENT PEOPLE GOGOGOGO!

Edit: you > OP to avoid confusion

Double edit: OP doesn't specifically use pro, just implies it since he says TLO in a tournament setting.


He is probably saying it because TLO is known for doing unorthodox things in his play. He likes doing things different and so if any pro was going to use a weird mouse like the Naga it would be TLO.
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
March 10 2012 19:12 GMT
#24
you could hypothetically but you really really want to keep your mouse hand strictly for navigating. It might seem like an awesome thing but constantly repositioning your thumb to hit those buttons actually pushes the mouse slightly to the right and causes you to lift off as well as taking away from maneuvering. I've toyed around with a lot of different set ups including using mouse buttons.
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
March 10 2012 19:21 GMT
#25
On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this


Probably mad cuz he's not prepared for his up and downs. No reason to get mad at a hypothetical scenario
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
March 10 2012 19:24 GMT
#26
If it's just for control groups it's fine
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
March 10 2012 19:26 GMT
#27
On March 11 2012 00:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
Are the buttons even that easy to press or do you have to really pressed down on them.


Depending on the type of Naga you have (Naga epic or reg) there is a slight difference in the placement of the buttons. I personally use the Naga Epic, where buttons 1-12 are all usable via thumb, and there are two other buttons right below the mouse wheel. I don't see anything unfair about the naga, I only use the numbers for control groups and have burrow and fungal bound to the buttons under the wheel.
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Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
March 10 2012 19:39 GMT
#28
On March 11 2012 04:05 Turo wrote:
since day one i've had ctrl bound to the side button on my razer mamba. it makes for amazingly easy hotkeying. i never have to make a weird hand shape trying to hit ctrl+6 ^_^


Thats a fucking great idea, you sir are a gentlemen and a scholar, I had not thought about that and I use a Naga.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 19:48:49
March 10 2012 19:48 GMT
#29
asdf. wrong thread. sorry. >_<
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 10 2012 19:50 GMT
#30
simple rule, if you have to think about it, then no.
Other then that its just a decision if you want to win, because your gear was superior or because you were superior.
But don't worry if you chose the first path, you can explain it to yourself, that its your own skill, because you were clever enough to use it.
Personally i don't mind if others use stuff that helps them play better, makes it more challenging.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
March 10 2012 19:51 GMT
#31
The Naga just has a numpad on the mouse. It is fine to use as you are simply pressing numbers with your right hand rather than left.
Insomni7
Profile Joined June 2011
667 Posts
March 10 2012 19:52 GMT
#32
On March 11 2012 04:12 vileChAnCe wrote:
you could hypothetically but you really really want to keep your mouse hand strictly for navigating. It might seem like an awesome thing but constantly repositioning your thumb to hit those buttons actually pushes the mouse slightly to the right and causes you to lift off as well as taking away from maneuvering. I've toyed around with a lot of different set ups including using mouse buttons.

How does the Razer Naga cause you to lift off? I don't understand this at all. I have been using the Naga since ive started playing and though there are both advantages and disadvantages, mouse accuracy and control is not one of its problems. THe one problem I have observed is that it can tax your thumb if you play for more than an hour or two a day. However, you also have more and easier control groups.
Never Forget.
Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
March 10 2012 19:53 GMT
#33
On March 11 2012 04:39 Rasun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 04:05 Turo wrote:
since day one i've had ctrl bound to the side button on my razer mamba. it makes for amazingly easy hotkeying. i never have to make a weird hand shape trying to hit ctrl+6 ^_^


Thats a fucking great idea, you sir are a gentlemen and a scholar, I had not thought about that and I use a Naga.


glad i could inspire you =]

takes a few games to get used to, but now i couldn't go back to using the one on the keyboard!
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
March 10 2012 19:55 GMT
#34
The rules for the MLG Winter Arena prohibited any change of mouse or keyboard drivers. So, since I don't believe Starcraft 2 recognizes each of those buttons unless they are programmed in the mouse driver, I would say the mouse is allowed, but you wouldn't have most of the buttons for use.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
March 10 2012 19:56 GMT
#35
On March 11 2012 04:21 dgwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 23:39 HuK wrote:
i love how u use tlo as a reference, since he is probably the first "pro" that comes to mind that would do something like this


Probably mad cuz he's not prepared for his up and downs. No reason to get mad at a hypothetical scenario

I don't get where you see any madness here.
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
March 10 2012 19:57 GMT
#36
On March 11 2012 04:55 Kaitlin wrote:
The rules for the MLG Winter Arena prohibited any change of mouse or keyboard drivers. So, since I don't believe Starcraft 2 recognizes each of those buttons unless they are programmed in the mouse driver, I would say the mouse is allowed, but you wouldn't have most of the buttons for use.


You dont need drivers for a Naga. By default they are just duplicates of the numpad keys. There is a switch on the bottom of the mouse that changes it from numpad to top row numbers. That is all it is, no macros, no drivers.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
March 10 2012 19:57 GMT
#37
You don't need a Razer Naga for this anyway.
Any1 with extra buttons on their mouse can just go to keybindings in SC2 and bind them to whatever they feel like.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
March 10 2012 20:09 GMT
#38
Several players in the GSL use the logitech G9x which has side buttons so I see no reason why the Razer Naga would be banned when the G9x isn't.
Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
March 10 2012 20:12 GMT
#39
Can we request a video of you using the mouse to better make a ruling?
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
March 10 2012 20:24 GMT
#40
Only thing the razer naga does is allow you to press numbers with your mouse hand instead of your keyboard hand if you have no third party software. Don't see why that wouldn't be allowed.
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