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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:42 ottersareneat wrote: ...Now, I just wish you guys would also get this upset when people use the word f----t, so that we could start fighting homophobia, too, and show people that it, like racism, also doesn't belong in our community  .Agree totally. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:50 kibeth wrote: I actually find your post overly condescending and obnoxious, and I like EG as an organization. It's kind of like if I stole a toy from a grocery store when I was 8. Later in life I work there, and somehow someone finds out that a decade ago I stole a 99cent toy, and I was fired. Sounds ridiculous right? That's not ridiculous, that's called living a life with consequences for our actions. As for Alex's response, amazing. Simply amazing. Glad to hear that he is so educated on the manner to handle things in a truly mature way. His response was measured. Stern, yet fair. EG definitely gained some invisible e-points in my book. Not because they fired Orb, but because their response was exactly the correct one. Alex makes reference to a few other incidents in gaming where the community and its leaders did not choose the right path. Now SC2 hits the right points with EG leading that charge. Congrats and cheers. | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:53 1Eris1 wrote:  Good to hear. Tolerating shit like this is one of the reasons no one takes the gaming community seriouslyedit: the fact that people went all the way to EG's sponsers before they were even able to respond whatsoever is disapointing. Probably one of the few smart posts in this thread ~_~ | ||
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Slaptoast
Canada134 Posts
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
So your saying that someone playing ladder games randomly Who says a word someone else doesn't like they should be burned and shunned like they are  sAviOr? I understand from a business aspect he is a public figure and his job is to watch what he says and be charismatic because he is at all times representing the company. The rest of the community really needs to stfu though really your gonna be mad cause he said a bad word? I bet half these people say worse and laugh at everything on 4chan. | ||
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
I think EG definitely made the correct decision though, but I really feel for them. Like people stated before, it's a complete lose/lose situation for them. They're already getting a ton of flak in this thread for releasing him, and they'd be bound to get probably even more flak if they didn't. Everyone bitching has to understand that they are a professional organization and they have to deal with something like this in a way that sticks with their values whilst saving as much face as possible. | ||
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jianming
149 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:09 -_- wrote: Only your ignorance makes you proud to be a Starcraft Community member today, Alex. Most, and perhaps nearly all, of the complaints you received were from pitiful people who want to create some entertainment at Orb's expense. A few others were probably from those slugs who masturbate in self-righteousness and take every opportunity to speak out about a cause because it gets them off. Finally, one or two were likely sincere. You're probably proud of your post. You think it makes you sound smart and enlightened (though you'd rather die than admit it). Yeesh it doesn't. all due respect, I'm sneering. The thing is, he had to say that even if he didn't believe it (not saying he didn't mean it). Without these whiny little kids he would go out of business, unfortunately. Don't blame Alex, blame the self-righteous slugs. | ||
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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:57 VirgilSC2 wrote: I can see the necessity in EG's move here, however I feel really sour about the fact that reddit managed to destroy yet another caster's career. That's an easy cop out, Orb destroyed his own career. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:06 1Eris1 wrote: He also lied to them. No matter what your job is, if you lie to your boss chances are your ass is gonna get canned. The thread would have been 15 pages max if Orb had just come out and apologized, but he didn't, and choose to make excuses/try to cover it up. True, I think if Orb was truthful on the matter he might have kept his job with EG and been only dealt a penalty of some sort. Fact is, Orb knew he was in the wrong and instead of apologizing for his mistake and making amends, explaining how he has changed, he lied and attempted to cover the issue up. That alone shows his employer Orb could not keep their trust to well represent the EG organization. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:07 Liquid`NonY wrote: People really have no idea how often opportunities are missed and doors closed without them knowing. Because not only does the internet operate in funny ways, so do people in the real world. It's always best to be your best at all times. Those of us who sometimes allow ourselves to act worse do it at our own risk. The difference in attitude here is what often sets apart people who hit a plateau in life and people who miraculously, seemingly luckily, succeed. NONY THROWS DOWN. Some of the posters here need have this printed and mounted above their bed. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
Wouldnt have been nearly as bad if orb just came out and said "sorry it wont happen again" right at the start. | ||
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
You can when my TL one gets here | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:07 Liquid`NonY wrote: People really have no idea how often opportunities are missed and doors closed without them knowing. Because not only does the internet operate in funny ways, so do people in the real world. It's always best to be your best at all times. Those of us who sometimes allow ourselves to act worse do it at our own risk. The difference in attitude here is what often sets apart people who hit a plateau in life and people who miraculously, seemingly luckily, succeed. I like to believe the same, plus the fact that being positive towards other people is often more rewarding. Call it karma, responsible, whatever, fact is the internet opens up roads to take and monitors where you have been. | ||
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zelah
United States45 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:42 ottersareneat wrote: ...Now, I just wish you guys would also get this upset when people use the word f----t, so that we could start fighting homophobia, too, and show people that it, like racism, also doesn't belong in our community .This portion of the post alone is causing me to buy an EG jersey. I will be e-mailing the sponsors listed on EG's site to let them know actions like this have earned a fan for life. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
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Sangyerians
Australia248 Posts
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geno
United States1404 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:07 Liquid`NonY wrote: People really have no idea how often opportunities are missed and doors closed without them knowing. Because not only does the internet operate in funny ways, so do people in the real world. It's always best to be your best at all times. Those of us who sometimes allow ourselves to act worse do it at our own risk. The difference in attitude here is what often sets apart people who hit a plateau in life and people who miraculously, seemingly luckily, succeed. Totally agree. Power said that sarcastically, but it really is something people should take to heart. If you are ever in a situation where you are words away from making an enemy, starting an argument, or otherwise acting the fool, you are almost always going to be better off just keeping it to yourself. You never know when your own actions can come back to haunt you, and you would be surprised at how far good manners in a bad situation can get you in life. | ||
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DashedHopes
Canada414 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:11 CajunMan wrote: I understand why he was released but this has been a retarded unholy crusade against him. So your saying that someone playing ladder games randomly Who says a word someone else doesn't like they should be burned and shunned like they are sAviOr? I understand from a business aspect he is a public figure and his job is to watch what he says and be charismatic because he is at all times representing the company. The rest of the community really needs to stfu though really your gonna be mad cause he said a bad word? I bet half these people say worse and laugh at everything on 4chan. what savior did and what orb did are two ENTIRELY different things. it's not even worth mentioning him here. | ||
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