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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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The_Unseen
France1923 Posts
On March 07 2012 15:57 Tnerb wrote:Thats just the price you pay for having a female in a high stress managerial position. Are you f-ing serious ? O_O | ||
Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:06 tomatriedes wrote: This post is ridiculous- you state a bunch of your opinions as though they're fact. If he said "he was sorry for what he had done" the mostly likely explanation is that he did cheat. You think a pro like TheSTC is just going to make an accusation like that lightly? You think Cella is just going to expel him from Werra for no reason? Also unless you are a mind reader you don't know what his "original intentions" were when he left Slayers- this is all speculation on your part, and the part about him basing his decisions on what his fans wanted sounds pretty far fetched to me. The guy deserves a second chance and it's great a foreign team has picked him up but fan boys blindly defending him and lashing out at everyone is just lame. EDIT: Not going to argue with anyone over "facts and opinions". To the Op, GLHF DRAGON!! I know you will make the Homofamiry berry proud ^.^ | ||
ZooMForYou
Singapore56 Posts
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dearyuna
United States322 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:08 Sein wrote: The rest of Jessica's tweet says that Dragon never even informed SlayerS about leaving the team. Jessica actually first heard about it when Dragon posted it on his twitter. She asked him why he was quitting, and he supposedly told her that he was planning on playing SC2 just as a hobby, and that he was returning to having a job (not progaming). Which is true. Personally if I was a progamer who was about to hang up my coat, and then had a team offer me everything I wanted and more, I would not refuse that. On top of that, for someone like Dragon, being a part of a foreign team could also mean a clean slate with a clean scoreboard to escape his past controversy. I can vouch for Dragon honestly when I say that he did not go actively searching for Millenium. I talked to Remy personally about having him participate in the MSI Pro Cup to which Remy agreed and set up the offer and everything. Dragon simply accepted. If you think about it, it really is a new chance for him, and I hope you guys support his decision to start over. | ||
centinel4
Austria50 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On March 07 2012 15:45 AeroEffect wrote: Okay here is the just of it. He was "accused" of stream cheating a while back in an online tournament just because he "blindly countered" a players build who was supposed to be superior to him. So basically he scouted his opponent, killed them, and won. He was then immediately accused of stream cheating and maphacking by the opposing player. I honestly think its a joke and if I was dragon, I wouldnt have apologized just to get people off of my back. And if dragon really did do it, do you think he would have the balls to attempt to join another team? No. Because dragon is not stupid and knows the consequences. And as far as him leaving SlayerS with the intentions of going to a foreign team... those weren't his original intentions. He was planning on returning to work. Alot of his fans wanted him to join a foreign team though as he would benefit from it greatly and would more than likely be in the team's Team House (which in this case is millenium) since he wasnt able to get real practice in the SlayerS house. Its the same reason golden and sleep left but no one is bashing them about it. so chill the fuck out, he's got this I am going to quote my post from another thread: On February 29 2012 09:37 Sein wrote: About a few months ago, I started hearing "Dragon never actually admitted to stream-cheating, so it's not a proven fact that he cheated" in the foreign community. I'm not sure where it originated from. As someone who has closely followed that incident when it happened around a year and a half ago, I can tell you that it is widely accepted in Korea that he did stream cheat. You're going to have a hard time finding someone over there who believes otherwise. And why is that? 1. WeRRa's officially apologized on PlayXP for the "Seo Yeon-Ji/Ear Hacking" (That's what they call stream cheating in Korea) incident. They said that they are very sorry for Mio's wrongdoings and also the fact that the WeRRa members blindly defended him against the accusations before Mio finally admitted it. They said that Mio was kicked out of the clan as his punishment. 2. Mio had said in his apology post that he would never even dream of competing in tournaments, broadcasted matches, or becoming a progamer. However, about a month later, he was on GSL R64 playing against Nestea. After the match, he posted another apology post on PlayXP, saying that he is sorry for not keeping his promise that he made after stream cheating 3. He continued to upload some of his replays on PlayXP, and him vs IdrA was one of those replays. He started that post by saying "Hello. I'm very sorry for stream cheating". What has not been confirmed is whether or not he was also using maphack. I'm fine with giving the guy a second chance, but people need to stop distorting what happened. Please stop spreading false information based on your assumptions that he was "joking". | ||
chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
On March 07 2012 15:46 Tnerb wrote: lol all the clash people are so butt hurt because of the katu incident. im sure you arent biased at all are you? lolol Katu is a caster for our team, you don't think casters are replaceable? Unlike many here, we have members tied to many of these players (look in Taeja or Genius GSL interviews) and are aware of the Dragon situation inside Korea. Let's just say the Koreans look at him much worse than foreigners. Unfortunately, lots of information doesn't go public so the general "Joe Schmoe" just assumes what he thinks is true. | ||
Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:11 dearyuna wrote: Which is true. Personally if I was a progamer who was about to hang up my coat, and then had a team offer me everything I wanted and more, I would not refuse that. On top of that, for someone like Dragon, being a part of a foreign team could also mean a clean slate with a clean scoreboard to escape his past controversy. I can vouch for Dragon honestly when I say that he did not go actively searching for Millenium. I talked to Remy personally about having him participate in the MSI Pro Cup to which Remy agreed and set up the offer and everything. Dragon simply accepted. If you think about it, it really is a new chance for him, and I hope you guys support his decision to start over. ^^ <3 yuna is a boss. this should go into the OP | ||
Danzo
2820 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:06 tomatriedes wrote: This post is ridiculous- you state a bunch of your opinions as though they're fact. If he said "he was sorry for what he had done" the mostly likely explanation is that he did cheat. You think a pro like TheSTC is just going to make an accusation like that lightly? You think Cella is just going to expel him from Werra for no reason? Also unless you are a mind reader you don't know what his "original intentions" were when he left Slayers- this is all speculation on your part, and the part about him basing his decisions on what his fans wanted sounds pretty far fetched to me. The guy deserves a second chance and it's great a foreign team has picked him up but fan boys blindly defending him and lashing out at everyone is just lame. Second Chance? You mean third chance. Don't forget about werra. | ||
VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
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pbkim
United States24 Posts
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rkshox
Taiwan536 Posts
i was going to jump on that comment..but i didn't want to open that door. | ||
canikizu
4860 Posts
Or unless that's his job. | ||
mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:40 canikizu wrote: The dude spent most of his time streaming, I don't think that's the way people do to find a job. Or unless that's his job. Bazinga! | ||
pbkim
United States24 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:40 canikizu wrote: The dude spent most of his time streaming, I don't think that's the way people do to find a job. Or unless that's his job. EXACTLY | ||
rkshox
Taiwan536 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:11 dearyuna wrote: Which is true. Personally if I was a progamer who was about to hang up my coat, and then had a team offer me everything I wanted and more, I would not refuse that. On top of that, for someone like Dragon, being a part of a foreign team could also mean a clean slate with a clean scoreboard to escape his past controversy. I can vouch for Dragon honestly when I say that he did not go actively searching for Millenium. I talked to Remy personally about having him participate in the MSI Pro Cup to which Remy agreed and set up the offer and everything. Dragon simply accepted. If you think about it, it really is a new chance for him, and I hope you guys support his decision to start over. READ! | ||
dearyuna
United States322 Posts
On March 07 2012 16:30 VirgilSC2 wrote: I think it should also be noted that apparently Dragon never had any intention of quitting pro-gaming following the accusations. Hi hater<3 I think it should be noted that Dragon announced he was giving a windowframe in which if things didn't work out he was really quitting. Maybe you should read the interview from his recruitment or tune into his stream once in a while. I don't suggest the latter though, considering you're too high and mighty for all that ^^ | ||
Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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