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On March 08 2012 13:59 TheyCallMePops wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 13:44 Danzo wrote:On March 08 2012 13:32 TheyCallMePops wrote:On March 07 2012 04:51 battyone wrote:On March 07 2012 04:50 Taiko88 wrote:On March 07 2012 04:47 battyone wrote: And the moral of the story is: your career isn't ruined by being a cheater and promising to never play professionally again. Funny, you wouldn't say something like that about Dimaga or TT1 or a host of others, but you decide to give us your useless opinion on this matter. Please go troll elsewhere. Not trolling, just not going to jump on the <3 Dragon bandwagon, just like I didn't jump on the crucify katu bandwagon. Seems like a lot of this goodwill torwards him was born from that anyway. Why is it that every time a group of people like something, there are always unique snowflakes that 'refuse to jump on the bandwagon' And actually, most fans of Dragon stem from him being an entertaining and fun streamer, considering he had 3-5k+ viewers regularly BEFORE the katu incident. But haters gonna hate and people gonna make inane comments. Why do people have to jump on the bandwagon full of fanboyisim? Maybe there's just people that genuinely don't like what you like. I think you're confusing being a fanboy with liking a player. There are like 40 SC2 players that I really enjoy and hope that their careers flourish because they have great personalities, interesting player, or some other factor that draws me to them. For someone to post in a thread celebrating a player they like's success is not "jumping on a bandwagon." It's just genuine excitement for the opportunities to see that player in a competitive setting more and see their mark on eSports. People can not like a player, but there's this trend on the internet among internet users in general that draws these imaginary lines about players they dislike and their fanbase. I would argue that no one (or very few people) are as fanatical about Dragon as people are (haters and fans alike) about idra, or iNcontroL, or MarineKing. And yet no one calls people out for "bandwagoning" on these players, and people are called "fanboys" simply for enjoying a player's stream and wishing him success. You're pidgeonholing a whole group of people into this label just so you can dismiss their interest or somehow consider them beneath you and worthy of your ridicule. It's so incredibly disgusting (and a bit funny) to watch people pick and choose their hatred/likes and then pretend as if they're unique and everyone else is just a conformist bandwagoning with the crowd. If you don't like Dragon because he cheated once in the past, that's completely up to you. But you also have to justify not liking Dimaga, TT1, Haypro (even though it was a mistake), and lots of other pros. If you don't like him for his streaming style, then don't watch him! But don't try and put yourself "above" his fans and mock/minisculize (is that a word? My english kinda sucks) their interest in a player's accomplishments. We're all just here to support the players we enjoy.
Amen sir.. Amen.
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He seems to kind of be on a level of professionalism that is far below many other players (even some foreigners). Hopefully he can prove me wrong on that and start kicking ass. I'm down with Dragon all the way.
@TheyCallMePops: Thanks for defending everyone's honor man. Seriously, well said. :D
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Millenium is going to be stacked either way, professionalism in mind or not.
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Glad dragon is going to be training with other people! hes really good gosu dragon hwaiting 100%
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On March 10 2012 06:07 vultdylan wrote: Millenium is going to be stacked either way, professionalism in mind or not.
What do you mean by "stacked" ?
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Good for him.....lets see what he is made off in International League....Anyway Good Luck Dragon
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On March 11 2012 07:09 ArcticRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 06:07 vultdylan wrote: Millenium is going to be stacked either way, professionalism in mind or not. What do you mean by "stacked" ?
Stacked meaning the team has many good players
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Millenium Dragon may be the coolest name in Starcraft 2
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I really wish that Dragon can go far at progaming I've watch bis stream and he's really good and funny Gl Hf Dragon
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Wow I really wish that he can go far!! Hes really good and really funny too GL HF Dragon
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Millenium is really taking a huge risk signing this guy. If you want to overlook everything he has done and continue to idolize him just because he is funny and is a very entertaining streamer, I understand. I have watched his play, it is fantastic, and I love him as a player, he is hilarious and very fan loved. But as someone who wants eSports to be taken seriously (and that means just rewards for cheaters and unprofessional players) I can't support him playing professionally again. HF Dragon but I can't say GL. And I think Playhem bowing down to his fanatical fanbase's flaming of their organization (and now sponsoring him? wtf?) because of the Katu incident is more embarrassing to Playhem than the comments made by Katu himself.
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Sennenryu !
Maybe he's a One Piece fan?
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Dissapointing. Instead of signing up a mediocre Korean with a questionable reputation, Millenium could have given some EU Terran talent a chance to break into the pro scene.
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On March 14 2012 00:48 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Dissapointing. Instead of signing up a mediocre Korean with a questionable reputation, Millenium could have given some EU Terran talent a chance to break into the pro scene.
Llewellys said he sign this guyz cause : 1- Dragon ask Millenium directly and can join Millenium house for at least 4 monhts. 2- Dragon can help Millenium to get contact with Korean player , Millenium still looking for a world class player and probably Korean. 3- Lewellys was searching EU Terran for a long time and didnt find so.
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On March 16 2012 00:00 Vira wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 00:48 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Dissapointing. Instead of signing up a mediocre Korean with a questionable reputation, Millenium could have given some EU Terran talent a chance to break into the pro scene. Llewellys said he sign this guyz cause : 1- Dragon ask Millenium directly and can join Millenium house for at least 4 monhts. 2- Dragon can help Millenium to get contact with Korean player , Millenium still looking for a world class player and probably Korean. 3- Lewellys was searching EU Terran for a long time and didnt find so. Should've asked Sjow, but I guess the deal was made by then.
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On March 14 2012 00:43 StarStrider wrote: Millenium is really taking a huge risk signing this guy. If you want to overlook everything he has done and continue to idolize him just because he is funny and is a very entertaining streamer, I understand. I have watched his play, it is fantastic, and I love him as a player, he is hilarious and very fan loved. But as someone who wants eSports to be taken seriously (and that means just rewards for cheaters and unprofessional players) I can't support him playing professionally again. HF Dragon but I can't say GL. And I think Playhem bowing down to his fanatical fanbase's flaming of their organization (and now sponsoring him? wtf?) because of the Katu incident is more embarrassing to Playhem than the comments made by Katu himself.
Professionalism doesn't always mean lack of forgiveness. Mistakes can be made, we're human beings. I personally don't think anyone should be cast out over a single - unclear - incident he was implied in.
You can take things seriously, and still make mistakes.
To be honest, the claim that since he may have stream cheated in the past and stated that he wouldn't play professionally anymore, he shouldn't, sounds a little bit childish.
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