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Superneenja
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
March 07 2012 19:47 GMT
#441
On March 08 2012 04:38 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:04 Superneenja wrote:
If you don't like Dragon or what he may or may not have done, then dont support him... that's all I'm going to say about that.

One thing I always wondered about was what was Dragon's contract situation with SlayerS. It seems like they didn't regard his talent that high even after the GSL appearance. He always mentioned moving into the team house but never did... maybe they just didn't treat him that well?..you can see by Jessica's twitter posts the type of respect they had for him apparently. This would be a different matter if he breached his contract or something of that sort, but it doesn't sound like the case...SlayerS probably didn't think he was worth what he thought he was worth, remember that from a business prospective viewers mean a lot, and he was having over 1.5k fairly consistently.

My opinion was that SlayerS tried to low ball him, or took him for granted, and Mill came and scooped him up.

Always been a Dragon fan, just for the fun stuff he does...sometimes SC2 gets too serious.


Thanks for being clear that you're giving an opinion. There are too many posters, IMO, who don't know the line between facts and opinions.

Mine is a bit different. Dragon's originally stated reason for leaving was that he was retiring from pro gaming (for the second time). Less than two weeks later, he announced that he was looking for a team. That's pretty shady, and I can definitely understand why Jessica is upset. If she actually did respect Dragon as a dude and as a player, then that would make his method of leaving - retiring, coming back and signing with a different team, all within a month - that much more upsetting.



Thanks!

I'm not sure if it was shady or not, if he was under some contract then I would consider it shady and this issue would have double the pages. But I don't think this was the case. Anyone would jump at a good opportunity, and I think that's exactly what happened here. Personally I think he could have made good money just streaming, but like many players viewers want to associate them with a team and if its a good team people respect them more... and in this case Millenium shot out the right number to get Dragons interest. Genuinely I think he was going to quit, he wasn't really participating in anything much less taking his practice seriously..but now I think he has an opportunity to win NA/EU tournaments, make money from his contract and from his streaming as well as get back into form to one day go back to Korea and wreck... If i was him I would be gunning for all the SlayerS players, just as motivation to kick some ass.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 07 2012 19:52 GMT
#442
That's a good theory but the chronology doesn't quite fit, IMO.

SlayerS announced that he was retiring. Then he publically announced that he was actively looking for a new team. It doesn't seem like he was retired, then Millenium offered him a contract to bring him out of retirement. Instead, it suggests to me that he 'retired,' like he's done before, then went looking for a different opportunity. Further, I think if he'd been honest about it, then Jessica wouldn't be upset; she's been extremely positive about Golden, who left at the same time to openly look for a foreign team.
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Leberwurstbrot
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany144 Posts
March 07 2012 20:30 GMT
#443
Hoped to see him playing for EG, he would troll IdrA the whole day
Kernen
Profile Joined July 2011
United States84 Posts
March 07 2012 20:40 GMT
#444
Nice was wondering when he would find a team
A hellion donut with a marauder filling, not so tasty. - DJ Wheat
Vronti
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States111 Posts
March 07 2012 21:45 GMT
#445
Wooh Dragon! Definitely my favorite streamer haha, hope he really starts showing results for Millennium.
"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest." — Confucius
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
March 07 2012 23:12 GMT
#446
Bad communicate on the part of Dragon led to this situation. If he communicated probably, Jessica wouldn't be upset as she is perfectly fine with Golden and Sleep.
meatbox
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia349 Posts
March 07 2012 23:20 GMT
#447
He'll earn way more money at Millennium.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 07 2012 23:51 GMT
#448
On March 08 2012 05:30 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
Hoped to see him playing for EG, he would troll IdrA the whole day

dragon and slayers have pretty bad blood now so no way EG would ever take him in
tQSky
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada63 Posts
March 08 2012 00:01 GMT
#449
Dragon is shit

User was warned for this post
Beast
AegonC
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
March 08 2012 00:08 GMT
#450
On March 08 2012 09:01 tQSky wrote:
Dragon is shit

I think you missed a "the" inbetween "is" and "shit"
alexmann
Profile Joined March 2012
37 Posts
March 08 2012 01:34 GMT
#451
I guess Dragon and "Emperor" cannot mix... Anyway best of luck to Dragon
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RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 08 2012 03:15 GMT
#452
gogo power dragon. win ipl ma dude!!!!
Corsair212
Profile Joined September 2011
22 Posts
March 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#453
I really like dragon, and am very glad that he's found another team. It's just another team people. But also, yeah, he should stop "retiring" does the name "Bret Favre" ring a bell? Not that I minded him on the vikings though... I'll be looking forward to seeing Dragon play, and hopefully he'll compete in more tourneys, he's an amazing player and maybe this time he'll feel more comfortable with this team and stay a bit longer. And if Blizzard would just put LAN in SC2 we wouldn't have this stream cheating nonsense ever......
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
March 08 2012 03:58 GMT
#454
I'm a fan of Dragon, not a fan of Millenium. I wish him he best though.
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eParadox
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada132 Posts
March 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#455
Haha I love this guy, and best of luck in millenium!
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-Duderino-
Profile Joined July 2011
United States80 Posts
March 08 2012 04:22 GMT
#456
Sweet, never would have thought of this pairing but I thinks it will work out great for all, also cool Dragon going to france hope he will still stream alot from the teamhouse.
The Dude abides.
TheyCallMePops
Profile Joined August 2011
United States81 Posts
March 08 2012 04:32 GMT
#457
On March 07 2012 04:51 battyone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 04:50 Taiko88 wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:47 battyone wrote:
And the moral of the story is: your career isn't ruined by being a cheater and promising to never play professionally again.


Funny, you wouldn't say something like that about Dimaga or TT1 or a host of others, but you decide to give us your useless opinion on this matter.

Please go troll elsewhere.


Not trolling, just not going to jump on the <3 Dragon bandwagon, just like I didn't jump on the crucify katu bandwagon. Seems like a lot of this goodwill torwards him was born from that anyway.

Why is it that every time a group of people like something, there are always unique snowflakes that 'refuse to jump on the bandwagon'

And actually, most fans of Dragon stem from him being an entertaining and fun streamer, considering he had 3-5k+ viewers regularly BEFORE the katu incident.

But haters gonna hate and people gonna make inane comments.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
March 08 2012 04:44 GMT
#458
On March 08 2012 13:32 TheyCallMePops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 04:51 battyone wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:50 Taiko88 wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:47 battyone wrote:
And the moral of the story is: your career isn't ruined by being a cheater and promising to never play professionally again.


Funny, you wouldn't say something like that about Dimaga or TT1 or a host of others, but you decide to give us your useless opinion on this matter.

Please go troll elsewhere.


Not trolling, just not going to jump on the <3 Dragon bandwagon, just like I didn't jump on the crucify katu bandwagon. Seems like a lot of this goodwill torwards him was born from that anyway.

Why is it that every time a group of people like something, there are always unique snowflakes that 'refuse to jump on the bandwagon'

And actually, most fans of Dragon stem from him being an entertaining and fun streamer, considering he had 3-5k+ viewers regularly BEFORE the katu incident.

But haters gonna hate and people gonna make inane comments.

Why do people have to jump on the bandwagon full of fanboyisim? Maybe there's just people that genuinely don't like what you like.
Getting too old for this..
PenguinWithNuke
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
250 Posts
March 08 2012 04:55 GMT
#459
On March 08 2012 13:32 TheyCallMePops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 04:51 battyone wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:50 Taiko88 wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:47 battyone wrote:
And the moral of the story is: your career isn't ruined by being a cheater and promising to never play professionally again.


Funny, you wouldn't say something like that about Dimaga or TT1 or a host of others, but you decide to give us your useless opinion on this matter.

Please go troll elsewhere.


Not trolling, just not going to jump on the <3 Dragon bandwagon, just like I didn't jump on the crucify katu bandwagon. Seems like a lot of this goodwill torwards him was born from that anyway.

Why is it that every time a group of people like something, there are always unique snowflakes that 'refuse to jump on the bandwagon'

And actually, most fans of Dragon stem from him being an entertaining and fun streamer, considering he had 3-5k+ viewers regularly BEFORE the katu incident.

But haters gonna hate and people gonna make inane comments.


What was the Katu incident?
TheyCallMePops
Profile Joined August 2011
United States81 Posts
March 08 2012 04:59 GMT
#460
On March 08 2012 13:44 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 13:32 TheyCallMePops wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:51 battyone wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:50 Taiko88 wrote:
On March 07 2012 04:47 battyone wrote:
And the moral of the story is: your career isn't ruined by being a cheater and promising to never play professionally again.


Funny, you wouldn't say something like that about Dimaga or TT1 or a host of others, but you decide to give us your useless opinion on this matter.

Please go troll elsewhere.


Not trolling, just not going to jump on the <3 Dragon bandwagon, just like I didn't jump on the crucify katu bandwagon. Seems like a lot of this goodwill torwards him was born from that anyway.

Why is it that every time a group of people like something, there are always unique snowflakes that 'refuse to jump on the bandwagon'

And actually, most fans of Dragon stem from him being an entertaining and fun streamer, considering he had 3-5k+ viewers regularly BEFORE the katu incident.

But haters gonna hate and people gonna make inane comments.

Why do people have to jump on the bandwagon full of fanboyisim? Maybe there's just people that genuinely don't like what you like.

I think you're confusing being a fanboy with liking a player. There are like 40 SC2 players that I really enjoy and hope that their careers flourish because they have great personalities, interesting player, or some other factor that draws me to them. For someone to post in a thread celebrating a player they like's success is not "jumping on a bandwagon." It's just genuine excitement for the opportunities to see that player in a competitive setting more and see their mark on eSports.

People can not like a player, but there's this trend on the internet among internet users in general that draws these imaginary lines about players they dislike and their fanbase. I would argue that no one (or very few people) are as fanatical about Dragon as people are (haters and fans alike) about idra, or iNcontroL, or MarineKing. And yet no one calls people out for "bandwagoning" on these players, and people are called "fanboys" simply for enjoying a player's stream and wishing him success.

You're pidgeonholing a whole group of people into this label just so you can dismiss their interest or somehow consider them beneath you and worthy of your ridicule. It's so incredibly disgusting (and a bit funny) to watch people pick and choose their hatred/likes and then pretend as if they're unique and everyone else is just a conformist bandwagoning with the crowd. If you don't like Dragon because he cheated once in the past, that's completely up to you. But you also have to justify not liking Dimaga, TT1, Haypro (even though it was a mistake), and lots of other pros. If you don't like him for his streaming style, then don't watch him! But don't try and put yourself "above" his fans and mock/minisculize (is that a word? My english kinda sucks) their interest in a player's accomplishments. We're all just here to support the players we enjoy.
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