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BesideHimself
Profile Joined November 2010
United States30 Posts
March 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#41
Plane tickets are rather expensive. Although, I feel like ST has known about this for quite some time because they would book player flights as far in advance as possible to save money.
“The purpose of life is to hydrogenate carbon dioxide."
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#42
On March 05 2012 23:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Pretty big blow to the scene imo that we have top class players canceling at the last minute unless the tournament pays for accomodations. IMO kinda disresepctful by the Korean players to accept invites to tournaments without trying to book travel months in advance... I guess due to the randomness of GSL schedule. Unfortunate, though - something will definitely have to change.


Neither sound nor fruitdealer are in the gsl anymore, so whatever the reason is that they have accepted the invite and cannot participate now, it is definitely not because of the gsl.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
March 05 2012 15:25 GMT
#43
On March 06 2012 00:05 Kreb wrote:Dont know how, but if there was a way to prevent that from happening all the time it would be great.


Seriously? You don't know how? It's not like there was a tournament in New York recently, which paid for players travel/accomodation? And it was PPV for that reason? And it was given shit from people? So newsflash, they paid for players travel and players were able to play. IEM didn't and what a surprise - players are not able to come because their teams don't have money.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
March 05 2012 15:26 GMT
#44
+1 for PPV style where the poor Korean teams aren't made even poorer.

Sucks that sound won't be there though.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 15:29:24
March 05 2012 15:27 GMT
#45
On March 06 2012 00:19 Sombrero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 00:02 Quakie wrote:
Terribly unfortunate and unprofessional. Think about other players that could attend in his place if he said he couldn't attend before? This is something that occurs regulary with ESL(among others) and it's certainly not good. This is something esports-teams must work much more with, isn't this one of the managements big assignements, one would think they could handle it ...


The point here is not to blame the management, they obviously had prepared to send the player; it is quite obvious that some funds that they may have been allocated are no longer available due to reasons that we do not know. People should think about it a little deeper before they castrate management. Think for a second, who provides funding for players to attend events?

That's abit alarming too, if their finances is so unstable so that they don't know if they can afford him going until a few days(or a day?) before. I hope ESL can get a bit assurances in the future whether the Koreans actually can go or not.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 15:34:05
March 05 2012 15:29 GMT
#46
On March 06 2012 00:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
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On March 05 2012 23:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Pretty big blow to the scene imo that we have top class players canceling at the last minute unless the tournament pays for accomodations. IMO kinda disresepctful by the Korean players to accept invites to tournaments without trying to book travel months in advance... I guess due to the randomness of GSL schedule. Unfortunate, though - something will definitely have to change.


Neither sound nor fruitdealer are in the gsl anymore, so whatever the reason is that they have accepted the invite and cannot participate now, it is definitely not because of the gsl.


Technically that's wrong. Code A qualifers are this weekend, it would be very tough to make it back for a Code A hopeful like Sound (who's already missed one shot iirc by going to hsc4) if not outright impossible. Doubt that would be a reason for such a late cancellation though.

FD is just a LoL player now so his absence isn't surprising (and was known for much longer)
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 05 2012 15:30 GMT
#47
No-one cares about Fruitdealer, he stopped playing SC2. DRG cant come because of GSL finals, I presume, and the other two are unknown.

Stop making a big deal out of things. "4 players cancel IEM is going under noooes."
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
March 05 2012 15:31 GMT
#48
This is unfortunate. Another Korean player not playing at IEM. Saw Sound play quite well at HomeStory Cup 4....would have liked to see him play again.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
March 05 2012 15:35 GMT
#49
Omg omg omg, who's going to take over his slot? Let it be Polt please let it be Polt!
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
March 05 2012 15:36 GMT
#50
On March 06 2012 00:22 StarVe wrote:
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On March 05 2012 23:50 mki wrote:
On March 05 2012 23:48 Tsubbi wrote:
as much as tournament organizers get called out for mistakes so should teams and players, cancelling participation one day before the event without good reason is just unacceptable


This is why I asked if it's an open letter. JBanks seems to have said that he has been in talks with Carmac which wasn't a straight answer but once can infer that ESL has known this was a possibility for quite some time.

Carmac was unaware of it, you can read it on twitter.


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@SaintSnorlax @mbCARMAC I have had it confirmed, Sound will not attend. Will skype you Carmac - I can only apologise on behalf of ST
2:37 PM - 5 Mar 12 via web

He told him he would skype him like one/two hours ago, that's not being informed for quite some time, unfortunately.



Actually, I have been speaking with Carmac since last week regarding the StarTale players. Awaiting confirmation from Korea.
Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
March 05 2012 15:38 GMT
#51
Tournaments should be making contracts. If a player cannot attend the players/team should give at minimum 1 weeks notice. After that a penalty of some sort should be imposed.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 05 2012 15:39 GMT
#52
Rotterdam just tweeted that Grubby will replace Sound!
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
March 05 2012 15:40 GMT
#53
On March 06 2012 00:39 Ketch wrote:
Rotterdam just tweeted that Grubby will replace Sound!


wtf, clearly not a Bitter follower...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 05 2012 15:42 GMT
#54
On March 06 2012 00:36 JBanKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 00:22 StarVe wrote:
On March 05 2012 23:50 mki wrote:
On March 05 2012 23:48 Tsubbi wrote:
as much as tournament organizers get called out for mistakes so should teams and players, cancelling participation one day before the event without good reason is just unacceptable


This is why I asked if it's an open letter. JBanks seems to have said that he has been in talks with Carmac which wasn't a straight answer but once can infer that ESL has known this was a possibility for quite some time.

Carmac was unaware of it, you can read it on twitter.

https://twitter.com/#!/BanKsFTW/status/176662626972082176

@SaintSnorlax @mbCARMAC I have had it confirmed, Sound will not attend. Will skype you Carmac - I can only apologise on behalf of ST
2:37 PM - 5 Mar 12 via web

He told him he would skype him like one/two hours ago, that's not being informed for quite some time, unfortunately.



Actually, I have been speaking with Carmac since last week regarding the StarTale players. Awaiting confirmation from Korea.


That's good to hear!
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
March 05 2012 15:42 GMT
#55
Grubby replacing him :

RotterdaM08 (Kevin van der Kooi)
Sound unfortunately couldn't make it to the #IEM, @followgrubby will replace him. This means 5P+Nerchi. This also means Elfi wins the group.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 05 2012 15:43 GMT
#56
On March 06 2012 00:40 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 00:39 Ketch wrote:
Rotterdam just tweeted that Grubby will replace Sound!


wtf, clearly not a Bitter follower...


Ahaha... I was like why are you upset about that... went looking for MrBitter tweets and such, was typing this reply, and then I saw your name! ... I'll add you too if you don't tweet the same things as Rotterdam all the time
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
March 05 2012 15:43 GMT
#57
On March 06 2012 00:39 Ketch wrote:
Rotterdam just tweeted that Grubby will replace Sound!


Good man. +1
Commentatorwww.instagram.com/RotterdaM08 for pictures of cute puppies.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
March 05 2012 15:43 GMT
#58
cool I loooove PvP ...
at least the casters are good so should be able to watch (Kaelaris hwaiting)
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 15:45:22
March 05 2012 15:44 GMT
#59
You think? Has ST ever used Sound in any of the GSTL games? Grubby/Bestyqt/Tarson would be the most logical replacements if they were to consider them.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
March 05 2012 15:44 GMT
#60
Sour for Sound, he seems to have a lot of potential but hell yeah go Grubby!
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