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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
February 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#121
this guy is unprofessional and an absolute fucktard. Love Playhem though, the money they distribute daily actually helps a lot of the progamers to expose themselves and earn a decent salary.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
February 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#122
There are some things you don't joke/troll about, and this is one of them. Especially not with thousands of people watching your stream, that's just completely out of line. Bonk or playhem should not be in anyone's line of fire though katu deservingly should
Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
February 28 2012 12:53 GMT
#123
Blown out of proportion or not, but Katu is clearly out of line here and should be punished. If he would have just said his piece and not continued to mock the stream chat, i wouldn't have a huge issue with it, but it showed a stunning lack of professionalism.

For myself who is not a dragon fan in the slightest, it was brutally obvious how disrespectful Katu was towards Dragon from the very beginning. I didn't watch Katu's stuff to begin with, and I guess I'll have to continue that.

Good job Playhem for quick response and resolution. I don't know that Katu should lose his casting gig, but he should be "corrected"
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:54:51
February 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#124
On February 28 2012 21:49 NesquiKGG wrote:
Well i just reported the Stream for Hate speech


..

Yeah, totally similar.

It was a stupid, unprofessional thing to say regardless of Dragon's history and stream antics (of course, when he does stupid shit it's "trolling). Playhem's apology and offer to send him to IPL4 is way more than is required however so ehm problem solved? Like they said, if the one can be redeemed, why not the other?
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
February 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#125
On February 28 2012 20:14 Angel_ wrote:
i like that the community is fast to forgive players for anything, but if a caster makes an ass out of themselves, people are up in arms that they should never cast again and change careers.

nice job making an alt account to post this though.


Well, players are more important than casters, so many people wish to become caster and have the ability for it while not many people have the ability to become pros and aren't there yet.

I thought it was extremely dumb to state that Dragon was streamcheating, Dragon almost always streams FPVOD so viewers would notice it. Moreover, he just decided to make a 3rd orbital command and knew he had to go for fast tanks or he would probably die. And if he lifted the barracks, lings would get in his base and he would lose too.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#126
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?

If you don't have 3k fanboys you'll need to open threads yourself if you want some pity.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44915 Posts
February 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#127
On February 28 2012 21:49 shizna wrote:
i'm sorry but katu sounds like a 12 year old who's got drunk for the first time.

we don't need to make a big deal out of it...

OMG DUDE IS A BADASS GANGSTA!!!!

who gives a crap? JP and other casters are far more opinionated than this fool.


Except Katu has explicitly slandered a player, and he has no built up credibility in the community already. On the other hand, take Artosis- who talks about how godly Nestea is all the time- and while the jokes may be old, it's not like he lies or is some random nobody who just shits on players for no reason. Artosis has an established reputation as a player and an analyst and a caster and a professional, so jokes are acceptable. Who the hell is Katu? Some nobody.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:57:45
February 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#128
Guy who has a history of cheating, breaking promises not to play in tournaments and leaving his team to focus on 'work, then proceeding to stream more calls lag in the finals of a money tournament (with the implication of asking for a re-game)... makes a caster get mad.

Why the fuck are people surprised? I actually think Playhem are wrong to sponsor him going to IPL - he's never paid any penance whatsoever for his cheating (and he'd probably be knocked out early at the event anyway). The guy's entire gaming background is shady, regardless of whether he's well-liked or entertaining. Katu went too far in that he shouldn't troll the community or air that publicly until there's certainty, but if Dragon was actually asking for a regame or streamcheating was suspected then Playhem should have had some serious response (privately).

So punish Katu and leave Dragon/Playhem alone. No injustice was done, no one was actually slandered (the guy did fucking cheat, unquestionably, and his reasons for leaving Slayers are questionable) and there wasn't really much harm to anyone.

This whole drama seems incredibly fucking stupid. Imagine if the same thing happened to CombatEX - would people want the caster blacklisted and CombatEX at IPL too? Shit, he has fans too!
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
February 28 2012 13:00 GMT
#129
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283608&currentpage=25#485

Guess that answers some stuff, and props to Playhem for the proposition, pretty incredible. But Katu still needs to apologize as an individual.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
February 28 2012 13:00 GMT
#130
Since Dragon has a history of cheating i don't feel sorry for him but that is very unprofessional from Katu; he should apoligise.

It seemed to me Katu has some kind-of grudge against Dragon. I wonder why. Does anyone know any reasons?
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Badgesc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France111 Posts
February 28 2012 13:01 GMT
#131
That guy is awesome. That was hilarious.

If that Dragon dude did infact cheat at some point. I don't see why he shouldn't get trashtalked a little bit.

I'm surprised there are not more people rooting for the caster. He just earned a new fan =]
DrAbuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany209 Posts
February 28 2012 13:02 GMT
#132
On February 28 2012 21:56 Jehct wrote:
This whole drama seems incredibly fucking stupid. Imagine if the same thing happened to CombatEX - would people want the caster blacklisted and CombatEX at IPL too? Shit, he has fans too!


A very good comparison. People just dont know about Dragons history.
eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/186292/1/DrAbuse/
ArrozConLeche
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru41 Posts
February 28 2012 13:03 GMT
#133
are you guys bitching because he accused dragon of stream cheating, he even apologize for saying that..... lol.

get real..
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 13:14:14
February 28 2012 13:05 GMT
#134
The OP doesn't really make much sense, but it sounds like that Kuta deserves all the bashing he's getting.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
February 28 2012 13:05 GMT
#135
On February 28 2012 22:02 DrAbuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:56 Jehct wrote:
This whole drama seems incredibly fucking stupid. Imagine if the same thing happened to CombatEX - would people want the caster blacklisted and CombatEX at IPL too? Shit, he has fans too!


A very good comparison. People just dont know about Dragons history.



TT1, Haypro or Dimaga(Prolly the biggest fan favorite) are names you should compare dragon with rather then combat rofl.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
February 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#136
Well that Katu guy isn't much of a caster anyway, I enjoy his casts the most when it's muted. Just do as I do and mute the stream
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#137
On February 28 2012 22:00 XRaDiiX wrote:
Since Dragon has a history of cheating i don't feel sorry for him but that is very unprofessional from Katu; he should apoligise.

It seemed to me Katu has some kind-of grudge against Dragon. I wonder why. Does anyone know any reasons?

I don't t think he has any. He just keeps trolling/bashing back... not a good trait for a caster, to be honest.
macerdello
Profile Joined August 2011
Ireland5 Posts
February 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#138
I think what he said clearly shouldn't have been said. However I don't think it was as bad. Everyone has a slip from time to time and he even said sorry two minutes later.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
February 28 2012 13:10 GMT
#139
On February 28 2012 22:06 namste wrote:
Well that Katu guy isn't much of a caster anyway, I enjoy his casts the most when it's muted. Just do as I do and mute the stream


Well, from the looks of things you wont be seeing much more of his casting on any of the bigger stages:

So there's no confusion, my comment about retribution was not meant to indicate favor in either direction. It was more a theoretical proposition that probably did not belong in my post to begin with. That said, its probably best not to leave this open ended. I can assure everyone that Katu will no longer be a representative of Playhem, and seemingly shouldn't have been for some time.


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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 28 2012 13:12 GMT
#140
Ouch.. disappointing to hear of Katu casting this way, he was a bit rude to Bonk and other players throughout the night as well.

I hope this doesn't lessen people's opinions of Playhem too much, they're a really great organization and they're doing what they can. Playhem runs really fantastic events, so I hope they keep growing!
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