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S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:38:03
February 28 2012 12:36 GMT
#101
Haha, all this unnecessary drama stirred up by a Dragons fanboys. Can't believe how upset Dragon's fanboys get over the most simple shit.. why they care so much I probably will never know.. It's not a big deal, doesn't matter at all. It's a playhem daily, seriously.

Not to mention the caster(s) don't represent the views of playhem.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
February 28 2012 12:37 GMT
#102
I like Katu, he's a high master zerg and thus one of the few casters that actually knows what he's talking about. I think he was mostly trolling tho
Dodge arrows
DrAbuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany209 Posts
February 28 2012 12:37 GMT
#103
Dragon has a history of proven stream-cheating, so he (and his "fans") will have to live with jokes about that. I guess all those angry 09ers dont even know all that much about Dragon...
eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/186292/1/DrAbuse/
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
February 28 2012 12:37 GMT
#104
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?


Because saying something about stream-cheating is different than calling him fat or ugly. I'm not out to crucify the guy but I don't think the water running off the back is the right approach here.
fiveohfive
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:39:22
February 28 2012 12:38 GMT
#105
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?


(puts hand up) because you don't anywhere near 3k stream viewers at all? Amiright?

But do agree with you. lol.

This thread should be closed tbh, not even thread worthy.
Terran, nerfed since '10. One ability at a time!
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
February 28 2012 12:39 GMT
#106
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?

I dislike whenever ANY caster blatently insults a player or a race, its really off putting.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:40:09
February 28 2012 12:39 GMT
#107
On February 28 2012 21:37 DrAbuse wrote:
Dragon has a history of proven stream-cheating, so he (and his "fans") will have to live with jokes about that. I guess all those angry 09ers dont even know all that much about Dragon...

IT'S NOT A FUCKING JOKE.

Why don't people get this? He wasn't joking. He was just saying stupid shit. Dragon is a former cheater, yes, but Katu was saying he was kicked out of SlayerS for cheating and was banned from all tournaments, which is just plain incorrect and fucking dumb.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
February 28 2012 12:39 GMT
#108
Yeah Katu sounds incredibly unprofessional in that cast. I feel really bad for Bonk lol.

The job of the casters isn't to do what Katu did. Not to mention he didn't even exactly know the whole Dragon stream-cheating story anyway. He just acted like an idiot.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
February 28 2012 12:40 GMT
#109
On February 28 2012 21:39 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:37 DrAbuse wrote:
Dragon has a history of proven stream-cheating, so he (and his "fans") will have to live with jokes about that. I guess all those angry 09ers dont even know all that much about Dragon...

IT'S NOT A FUCKING JOKE.

Why don't people get this? He wasn't joking. He was just saying stupid shit. Dragon is a former cheater, yes, but Katu was saying he was kicked out of SlayerS for cheating and was banned from all tournaments, which is just plain incorrect and fucking dumb.


Even if it was a joke the subject matter is something not to be joked about.

Seem pretty cut and dry to me.
giorgio
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland32 Posts
February 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#110
Haha u are kids or what ?
"I will stay away from playhem" - c'mon, its fault of Katu, not Playhem. Ye, Katu make big mistake with this comment, but i think Playhem is a very good tour. Every day u can earn 75 $, and watch official stream in HD quality. Show me another tour with that professional approach.

About Dragon, i also dont like him bcuz cheating in the past, but telling this stuff on stream was bad. It is his own buisness what he doing in his life.
shinyA
Profile Joined November 2008
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:42:21
February 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#111
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?

It has nothing to do with the player, IMO. For me, it has more to do with -

a) Katu represents Playhem
b) Katu talks shit about a player playing in his tournament in front of hundreds of people
c) accuses a player of cheating and tarnishing that players name when the player in question is streaming the event
d) makes no attempt to apologize or recognize he's in the wrong.

Dragon enters playhem, earns them viewers and publicity, gets his name dragged through the dirt. To ignore that is stupid.

Edit - But yeah, people saying they are gonna boycott Playhem because of this is silly.
twitch.tv/ggshinya
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:42:42
February 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#112
On February 28 2012 21:34 fiveohfive wrote:
Wow... Really?

Kinda taken back at how some people are treating this as a big deal.... Honestly, who gives a flying fuck what the caster said, playhem are providing $75 tournies EACH DAY! One little hiccup that some people take personally and it's like as if it's the end of the world!

Grow up!

I swear the interwebs gets to people sometimes.... :s

P.S - I actually watched the stream and thought it was funny to be quiet funny. LOL.


Right, because if you're in your class taking a test and one of your friends tells the teacher that you are stupid, and cheating. And once the others tell him to stop accusing you for no reason he tells them he was trolling lol obviously you are all stupid to think otherwise.
You are still friends after that. Right?

If you are ok with the whole "he was just trolling lol" statement then you are ok with them thinking you are dumb. And it should never be ok for a caster to accuse a player of cheating like that on stream, and also criticize him that hard.

I don't see the problem with people getting upset at this, my opinion on Katu went from "nothing" to "negative", that doesn't mean I have something against Playhem. Except the part where they try to make me think he was trolling.

Edit : And yeah lying and not apologizing tells a lot about him.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
February 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#113
On February 28 2012 21:35 SimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:32 Angel_ wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:31 shinyA wrote:
I think it's funny how people will post about wanting eSports to grow and to be taken seriously by society and will compare it to the NBA, NFL, UFC, etc but then at the same time they dismiss situations like this as an overreaction. But stuff like this just reinforces the way people view those who play video games; immature little kids. Do you think a major company or business would let a spokesperson or representative say things like this and represent them this way? Of course not.

If you want SC2 to be taken seriously then you have to take action against stupid situations like this and not just brush it under the rug.


there's a difference between taking something seriously and running around like your dicks on fire ready to behead everyone around you.


That's a brilliant linguistically crafted metaphor except it doesn't really apply to the measured discussion in 99% of this thread.

But if you're looking for exaggerations...is there a mirror somewhere?


that you can call the majority of the comments in this thread "measured" is borderline laughable.
CrazyAsian
Profile Joined October 2010
United States188 Posts
February 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#114
I skipped to 4:04:00 and watched. Seems blown out of proportion to me, maybe if Dragon took offense, it would be different, but id like to think he doesn't give a damn.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
February 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#115
On February 28 2012 21:41 shinyA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?

Edit - But yeah, people saying they are gonna boycott Playhem because of this is silly.

especially because Playhem shutting down would only hurt Dragon and other innocent players. no one would be doing Dragon any favors by boycotting playhem.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Noumena
Profile Joined June 2010
United States85 Posts
February 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#116
Even if Katu was "trolling", it's not something a caster should be doing.. Multiple times throughout Game 2 Katu would stop responding and minimize to type in chat, completely dismissing the game. Believe his response to his co-caster in the beginning of Game 2 was "I don't care, but" then went on to restate exactly what Bonk just said.

Joking or not, he was still unprofessional.
twitch.tv/NoumenaSC
NesquiKGG
Profile Joined February 2012
100 Posts
February 28 2012 12:49 GMT
#117
Well i just reported the Stream for Hate speech
I cheated on my fears, broke up with my doubts, got engaged to my faith and now I'm marrying my dreams.
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:51:16
February 28 2012 12:49 GMT
#118
i'm sorry but katu sounds like a 12 year old who's got drunk for the first time.

we don't need to make a big deal out of it...

OMG DUDE IS A BADASS GANGSTA!!!!

who gives a crap? JP and other casters are far more opinionated than this fool.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
February 28 2012 12:50 GMT
#119
On February 28 2012 21:49 shizna wrote:
i'm sorry but katu sounds like a 12 year old who's got drunk for the first time.

we don't need to make a big deal out of it...

OMG DUDE IS A BADASS GANGSTA!!!!

who gives a crap?


Yeah, who cares.
Never make a hydralisk.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:51:20
February 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#120
On February 28 2012 21:41 shinyA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:36 VTPerfect wrote:
don't wanna be "that guy" but i think we can all agree this thread only exists because dragon averages 3k stream viewers. All this "high quality for esports!" "professionalism for esports punish now!" is all a bunch of bs, playhem isn't nasl/ipl playhem isnt tryign to be nasl/ipl stop making shit up just because your favorite player got bad things said about him. happens to me too why are there no threads about that?

It has nothing to do with the player, IMO. For me, it has more to do with -

a) Katu represents Playhem
b) Katu talks shit about a player playing in his tournament in front of hundreds of people
c) accuses a player of cheating and tarnishing that players name when the player in question is streaming the event
d) makes no attempt to apologize or recognize he's in the wrong.

Dragon enters playhem, earns them viewers and publicity, gets his name dragged through the dirt. To ignore that is stupid.

Edit - But yeah, people saying they are gonna boycott Playhem because of this is silly.


I think these are good points. Hoping that the managers of Playhem at least have a word or two with Katu and make him release an apology for his ignorant remarks- what he said wasn't even particularly accurate. He clearly doesn't even understand the whole story regarding Dragon, stream-cheating (a long time ago), and SlayerS. (All the controversy can actually be found here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Dragon .)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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