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Patch 1.4.3 21-27 February - Page 8

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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 18 2012 09:17 GMT
#141
On February 18 2012 18:11 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
MLG could make pre-patch custom maps for every map and have the players play on those

undermine blizzard's terrible decision!

ironically, that would mean they would play in a tournament setting that the game designers have determined is unbalanced.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 18 2012 09:20 GMT
#142
Humm, strange.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8442 Posts
February 18 2012 09:21 GMT
#143
On February 18 2012 18:14 MelodyBW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 18:11 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
MLG could make pre-patch custom maps for every map and have the players play on those

undermine blizzard's terrible decision!


They don't have the balls to do that.


Yea, and while we are at it, somebody should snatch the responsibility from Blizzard to balance their own game in order to make it fair. Also we should call the Patch 1.4.maketerranshappyagaintheysufferedenoughforblizzardssins.

//sarcasm

Just wait how it will work out. And if it really hurts, then cry, not preemptively. But knowing the Sc2 Community and that includes all races/genders/pros/noobs alike, not gonna happen.

dynn
Profile Joined January 2012
United States17 Posts
February 18 2012 09:37 GMT
#144
thank god! gg terrans! time to get some skills at games. Marine still being OP. but its okey now with the no abuse of mule and the ghost nerf, ill feel good.

GJ BLIZZARD!

And ill wait for more terran nerf!

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nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
February 18 2012 09:39 GMT
#145
On February 18 2012 18:04 Bayyne wrote:
I understand the patch being released 1 day before major tournaments (if that is even the correct time-frame anyways) does suck major donkey dick.

But, isn't the PTR open to everyone? Can't teams, practice partners, etc., get together on the PTR to get more than 1 day's worth of practice time? Or is that too far-fetched to think that way...-_-

Is it even on PTR?
I know my PTR client isn't even working (EU)
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
February 18 2012 09:42 GMT
#146
Blizzard trolling professional starcraft leagues?
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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#147
I think it's the subtle way of Blizzard not approving MLG so they are trolling them.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#148
On February 18 2012 18:39 nucleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 18:04 Bayyne wrote:
I understand the patch being released 1 day before major tournaments (if that is even the correct time-frame anyways) does suck major donkey dick.

But, isn't the PTR open to everyone? Can't teams, practice partners, etc., get together on the PTR to get more than 1 day's worth of practice time? Or is that too far-fetched to think that way...-_-

Is it even on PTR?
I know my PTR client isn't even working (EU)


You are in fact correct sir, not working from NA.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 18 2012 09:51 GMT
#149
oh man i'm feeling the mass phoenix builds vs zerg...

i think i'm gonna wait a week or two until i play with this patch when people abandoned mass phoenix builds lol
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Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
February 18 2012 09:54 GMT
#150
GJ Blizzard again.
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Wren.822
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 10:23:31
February 18 2012 09:54 GMT
#151
On February 18 2012 18:37 dynn wrote:
thank god! gg terrans! time to get some skills at games. Marine still being OP. but its okey now with the no abuse of mule and the ghost nerf, ill feel good.

GJ BLIZZARD!

And ill wait for more terran nerf!


. . . Really?

But to the point: I do find this to be poorly timed, considering if they waited until Feb 27th to roll the patch out to all servers then there would be a week for pros to prepare for the GSL finals, and the only other event coming up (according to the TL Tournament Tracker) would be the Xilence Cup on the EU server which has a $100 prize pool. Everything else happens after the GSL finals, which would give players at least a week to prepare, as opposed to releasing the patch just days before players have to fly out for an event with a $10,000 purse for first place... Players make their living playing this game, it seems kind of dick-ish to drastically alter the TvZ lategame right before a tournament that is paying huge dollar sums to the best performers.

On the one hand it does give the patch some practical testing in a tournament environment. But on the other hand it does not allow any of the players time to practice with the new changes before the event begins. Way to hamstring every competing Terran player, Blizzard.
"A tart temper never mellows with age, and a sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use."
nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 09:58:20
February 18 2012 09:56 GMT
#152
On February 18 2012 18:46 Bayyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 18:39 nucleo wrote:
On February 18 2012 18:04 Bayyne wrote:
I understand the patch being released 1 day before major tournaments (if that is even the correct time-frame anyways) does suck major donkey dick.

But, isn't the PTR open to everyone? Can't teams, practice partners, etc., get together on the PTR to get more than 1 day's worth of practice time? Or is that too far-fetched to think that way...-_-

Is it even on PTR?
I know my PTR client isn't even working (EU)


You are in fact correct sir, not working from NA.

that's even worse :/
I can't come up with an acceptable excuse for this other than what Jinro said

true there are alot of tourney of different sizes but I'd like to think that major events like these will warrant a different approach.
If blizzard wants SC2 to be a professional eSports they should help the professionals, not drop a bomb on them.
I don't say they should go all out, but a small thing like delaying a patch by a few day for a major tourney, or even putting it up a week early would be enough I feel :/

I hope at least PTR goes online tomorrow for all regions

edit: added the quote so it's clear who I'm replying to
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3517 Posts
February 18 2012 09:57 GMT
#153
Isn't there a PTR for this patch? There always was testing for the big patches, the pros could easily practice there.

They should release patches normally, but make a seperate client for tournaments ~_~
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4379 Posts
February 18 2012 09:58 GMT
#154
Wtf this is so quick? Don't they normally announce balance changes like a month before they are actually put into the game? What is blizzard thinking the ghost nerf absolutely needed to be reworked.
nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
February 18 2012 10:00 GMT
#155
On February 18 2012 18:57 Andr3 wrote:
Isn't there a PTR for this patch? There always was testing for the big patches, the pros could easily practice there.

They should release patches normally, but make a seperate client for tournaments ~_~


I don't know if this is too much work but it's actually a pretty neat idea imo
w/o even thinking of this situation but in an overall approach it could make running these tourneys with more ease
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
February 18 2012 10:01 GMT
#156
at least the players will have plenty of time to prepare with the new patch, for assembly and MLG. wouldnt want them to be blind in a major tourney.
(lol)
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FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
February 18 2012 10:02 GMT
#157
Wait, they're actually going through with these ridiculous changes? Huh... this should be interesting.
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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 18 2012 10:05 GMT
#158

So all the tournament results will not matter since they will play a brand new game )
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
February 18 2012 10:06 GMT
#159
They just want pros to be play on the PTR. Sounds logical.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#160
On February 18 2012 19:06 zezamer wrote:
They just want pros to be play on the PTR. Sounds logical.


Do you mean like the tournaments will be their testing zone for the changes? If thats what you mean I guess in a sick way its kinda true, but people make a living off these things.
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