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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 18 2012 10:17 GMT
#161
Don't they usually test the changes on PTR? Have they been doing it or have I missed something? They should really wait for more feedback before making such drastic changes.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 10:18:33
February 18 2012 10:17 GMT
#162
After DC I figured they had learned, guess I was wrong. Players will have 0 time to adapt (because they can't even go on ptr and practice with the patch for the tournament) to the changes, I can't really see a terran beating a zerg going broodlord/infestor in the lategame, because no terran will have the time to come up with something new. Also I doubt anyone will even try to go for the new range upgrade as no one had time to play around with it >.<
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 10:19:11
February 18 2012 10:17 GMT
#163
lmao with no PTR either.... oh dear.

"we received feedback about protoss not winning enough events. therefore we release a patch one day before two huge tournaments to nerf terran and buff protoss. hopefully this with have the desired effect of making terran more difficult to play, as well as giving a morale boost to protoss players".

this is the most intrusive nerf since roach supply.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
February 18 2012 10:19 GMT
#164
seems ok for me, don't know why all the hate on blizzard is coming from this time.

- PTR is irrelevant since only NA players can play on it anyway, everbody from Korea, SAE and EU is excluded anyway.
- there will always be major tournament right after a patch hits. at least it's not a GSL final

yeah sure it's crappy but for those problems to be resolved we would need LAN..
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
February 18 2012 10:19 GMT
#165
Blizz... why never learn?
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
February 18 2012 10:21 GMT
#166
It's 3 days before MLG/Assembly not 1. It seems like fact checking is dead.
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
fiveohfive
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia81 Posts
February 18 2012 10:21 GMT
#167
It's amazing, with all the Terran hate since the release of SC2.... look where Terran has ended up now. Nerfed to the shit-house (you would of thought they had a 100% win rate since release with the amount of nerfs) and now screwing over those professional Terran players who make a living from this game.

I must say to those who have stuck with Terran through all the nerfs and community hate, I give respect to. It's just sad to see where Terran is now simply because of whiners.

Oh wells, Terran players keep fighting!

@ Telcontar, I think Blizzard has just jumped on the Terran hate bandwagon. Apparently, there is no reason for a PTR when Terran gets nerfed now.
Terran, nerfed since '10. One ability at a time!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 18 2012 10:23 GMT
#168
On February 18 2012 19:19 Tofugrinder wrote:
seems ok for me, don't know why all the hate on blizzard is coming from this time.

- PTR is irrelevant since only NA players can play on it anyway, everbody from Korea, SAE and EU is excluded anyway.
- there will always be major tournament right after a patch hits. at least it's not a GSL final

yeah sure it's crappy but for those problems to be resolved we would need LAN..


Some testing done is better than just throwing out a few changes and throwing caution to the winds.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
February 18 2012 10:34 GMT
#169
On February 18 2012 19:17 shizna wrote:
lmao with no PTR either.... oh dear.

"we received feedback about protoss not winning enough events. therefore we release a patch one day before two huge tournaments to nerf terran and buff protoss. hopefully this with have the desired effect of making terran more difficult to play, as well as giving a morale boost to protoss players".

this is the most intrusive nerf since roach supply.

Except none of the changes will mean anything in the TvP matchup..
Playgu
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
February 18 2012 10:37 GMT
#170
oh you, blizzard
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
February 18 2012 10:39 GMT
#171
On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?


Quote of the day
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
February 18 2012 10:40 GMT
#172
On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?

Some men just want to watch world burn
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Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
February 18 2012 10:40 GMT
#173
Why does Europe never get any fucking info what so ever. I look for notes on when the season starts and when the patch comes up but it seems like blizzard is ignoring Europe. So if I missed it when is the patch going live in EU.
Naniwa <3
Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
February 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#174
Basically we can guarantee that any TvZ we see during the tournaments is either going to end before the 18-20 minute mark, OR the Zerg will win otherwise.. : /
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SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 10:51:15
February 18 2012 10:50 GMT
#175
they would rather have the patch intensively tested via tournaments at the cost of the competitive spirit.

On February 18 2012 19:34 Whalecore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 19:17 shizna wrote:
lmao with no PTR either.... oh dear.

"we received feedback about protoss not winning enough events. therefore we release a patch one day before two huge tournaments to nerf terran and buff protoss. hopefully this with have the desired effect of making terran more difficult to play, as well as giving a morale boost to protoss players".

this is the most intrusive nerf since roach supply.

Except none of the changes will mean anything in the TvP matchup..

Oh really? You should probably think a bit more about it then.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 18 2012 11:01 GMT
#176
On February 18 2012 19:49 mouzKaelaris wrote:
Basically we can guarantee that any TvZ we see during the tournaments is either going to end before the 18-20 minute mark, OR the Zerg will win otherwise.. : /


Terran will gg when their 2bases all in fail, period. There is no point to explore new late game possiblities (HSM?) when you don't have the time to even b esure that it's viable. So just kill the zerg before.
Zest fanboy.
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
February 18 2012 11:42 GMT
#177
It would be quite amusing if no PTR resulted in some huge bug sneaking in, Blizzard has a history of changing stuff like Ultralisk splash or Phoenix lift when trying to balance completely seperate units.

On February 18 2012 19:21 fiveohfive wrote:
It's amazing, with all the Terran hate since the release of SC2.... look where Terran has ended up now. Nerfed to the shit-house (you would of thought they had a 100% win rate since release with the amount of nerfs) and now screwing over those professional Terran players who make a living from this game.

I must say to those who have stuck with Terran through all the nerfs and community hate, I give respect to. It's just sad to see where Terran is now simply because of whiners.

Oh wells, Terran players keep fighting!

@ Telcontar, I think Blizzard has just jumped on the Terran hate bandwagon. Apparently, there is no reason for a PTR when Terran gets nerfed now.


God bless those selfless Terran players. A courageous display of grit and determination to ride out these tough times where their win ratio can drop to almost as low as 50% in a match up.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
February 18 2012 11:54 GMT
#178
On February 18 2012 19:19 Tofugrinder wrote:
seems ok for me, don't know why all the hate on blizzard is coming from this time.

- PTR is irrelevant since only NA players can play on it anyway, everbody from Korea, SAE and EU is excluded anyway.
- there will always be major tournament right after a patch hits. at least it's not a GSL final

yeah sure it's crappy but for those problems to be resolved we would need LAN..

For last 2 ptrs, the server has been in NA, but every account has acces to it. PTR is the intercontinental server.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
February 18 2012 11:56 GMT
#179
Why would the release the game now when 3 big tournaments are going on >.<
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
February 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#180
i only see a ghost in 1/7 games i play but its definately a pretty big nerf
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