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On February 18 2012 17:28 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 17:15 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 17:07 IMoperator wrote:On February 18 2012 17:05 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 17:00 dignitas.merz wrote:On February 18 2012 16:51 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 16:36 Greenei wrote:On February 18 2012 15:06 Ectrid wrote:On February 18 2012 13:56 Active.815 wrote:On February 18 2012 13:22 Ectrid wrote:[quote] no wonder jinro has no success, moaning about changes everyone will experience... YOU NEED THE EYE OF THE TIGER JINRO! STOP BEEING SUCH A SOMETHING!  Because, you know, releasing a game-changing patch that will affect almost every pro T's lategame strategy is such a wise idea and Jinro isn't qualified to point out how dumb it is? Ofc ourse Jinro can state his opinion, that's not the point... And nerfing Terran makes me really, really, i mean really really a sad panda.... poor terrans... terrans really had a hard time since release... really.... It's funny because it's actually true, that foreign terrans havent won a big tourney in FOREVER. The last that I can remember is TSL 3 LOL Funny thing is,Korean terran win almost every GSL since the release.LOL Terran has won 6 out of 12 GSL's. Zerg has won 4, Protoss has won 2. That's not "almost every GSL" that's 50 % of it. EDIT: Also to be OT; Why do this now? Surely they know Assembly and MLG is coming up next weekend.. My bad.They won half of GSL.My point is Terran is not having that bad time as people are making it out to be. Terran are still doing fine. I think they releasing this patch before MLG/Assembly to test it on the pro level? We're talking about ladder here. Terrans on ladder are already struggling, and so they continue to make it tougher with all these nerfs. http://imgur.com/a/hQHYSAs you can clearly tell in the international scene as well as in Korea, Terran has never fallen below 50% against either of the other two races since release despite countless changes to balance, maps, metagame and player styles. Please dun tell me Terran is struggling .They are doing fine.Even with this change, I bet you the Korean terrans will adapt properly.Plus, we should balance the game at the highest level of skill and not on ladder. That was a post about ladder, not about the pro level. http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all(PS: I bet one of their proper adaptations will be an increase in 2base allins, which is one of the 3 things I currently have planned for my post patch play)
Sorry but i am confused.
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS
Isn't this the statistics based high level tournament.
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On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?
i geus so.
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On February 18 2012 17:31 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 17:28 Elyvilon wrote:On February 18 2012 17:15 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 17:07 IMoperator wrote:On February 18 2012 17:05 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 17:00 dignitas.merz wrote:On February 18 2012 16:51 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 16:36 Greenei wrote:On February 18 2012 15:06 Ectrid wrote:On February 18 2012 13:56 Active.815 wrote:
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Because, you know, releasing a game-changing patch that will affect almost every pro T's lategame strategy is such a wise idea and Jinro isn't qualified to point out how dumb it is? Ofc ourse Jinro can state his opinion, that's not the point... And nerfing Terran makes me really, really, i mean really really a sad panda.... poor terrans... terrans really had a hard time since release... really.... It's funny because it's actually true, that foreign terrans havent won a big tourney in FOREVER. The last that I can remember is TSL 3 LOL Funny thing is,Korean terran win almost every GSL since the release.LOL Terran has won 6 out of 12 GSL's. Zerg has won 4, Protoss has won 2. That's not "almost every GSL" that's 50 % of it. EDIT: Also to be OT; Why do this now? Surely they know Assembly and MLG is coming up next weekend.. My bad.They won half of GSL.My point is Terran is not having that bad time as people are making it out to be. Terran are still doing fine. I think they releasing this patch before MLG/Assembly to test it on the pro level? We're talking about ladder here. Terrans on ladder are already struggling, and so they continue to make it tougher with all these nerfs. http://imgur.com/a/hQHYSAs you can clearly tell in the international scene as well as in Korea, Terran has never fallen below 50% against either of the other two races since release despite countless changes to balance, maps, metagame and player styles. Please dun tell me Terran is struggling .They are doing fine.Even with this change, I bet you the Korean terrans will adapt properly.Plus, we should balance the game at the highest level of skill and not on ladder. That was a post about ladder, not about the pro level. http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all(PS: I bet one of their proper adaptations will be an increase in 2base allins, which is one of the 3 things I currently have planned for my post patch play) Sorry but i am confused. http://imgur.com/a/hQHYSIsn't this the statistics based high level tournament.
Let's look up this quote tree.
We're talking about ladder here. Terrans on ladder are already struggling, and so they continue to make it tougher with all these nerfs.
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So they basically hope for all terrans to find a way to deal with late game tvz in a day, yeah good luck guys 
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On February 18 2012 17:31 sabas123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded? i geus so.
I guess the timing is not the best, but hasn´t this happened before? (Major?) Balance changes before some big event? Can somebody check on that please?
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On February 18 2012 17:00 dignitas.merz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 16:51 FakeDeath wrote:On February 18 2012 16:36 Greenei wrote:On February 18 2012 15:06 Ectrid wrote:On February 18 2012 13:56 Active.815 wrote:On February 18 2012 13:22 Ectrid wrote:On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded? no wonder jinro has no success, moaning about changes everyone will experience... YOU NEED THE EYE OF THE TIGER JINRO! STOP BEEING SUCH A SOMETHING! Because, you know, releasing a game-changing patch that will affect almost every pro T's lategame strategy is such a wise idea and Jinro isn't qualified to point out how dumb it is? Ofc ourse Jinro can state his opinion, that's not the point... And nerfing Terran makes me really, really, i mean really really a sad panda.... poor terrans... terrans really had a hard time since release... really.... It's funny because it's actually true, that foreign terrans havent won a big tourney in FOREVER. The last that I can remember is TSL 3 LOL Funny thing is,Korean terran win almost every GSL since the release.LOL Terran has won 6 out of 12 GSL's. Zerg has won 4, Protoss has won 2. That's not "almost every GSL" that's 50 % of it. EDIT: Also to be OT; Why do this now? Surely they know Assembly and MLG is coming up next weekend..
GL merz, hope your high APM can get you a good placing and a nice seed for MLG Columbus.
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On February 18 2012 16:50 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 16:47 Drmooose wrote:
I'd have like to see them wait until after MLG/Assembly just to get one last look at everything before it goes through. While I hate losing 15 broods in a half second the ghost nerf is a bit too much to make it... It is confirmed to be going through already.I think Blizzard want to test this patch on the pro level.That why they are releasing the patch just before MLG/Assembly.
that doesnt make sense. if they wanted to test it on the pro level, they would give people time to prepare builds with the new patch before their games. people arent going to change their builds on the fly with a patch that came out the day before.
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On February 18 2012 17:44 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 17:31 sabas123 wrote:On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded? i geus so. I guess the timing is not the best, but hasn´t this happened before? (Major?) Balance changes before some big event? Can somebody check on that please?
This was ages ago, but I'm pretty sure Zerg got a pretty big buff right before IdrA won MLG.
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On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?
Thank you for the much needed laugh at 3:50 am and a poor ladder day.
Meta-game, schemda-game, 24 hours is how much any pro needs to figure out a new patch that completely changes how a critical units works.
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Why is everybody assuming the ghost nerf is going through like this? It is not like Blizzard had never changed things for the release of the patch.
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The time may be bad for pros, but it's gonna be really interesting seeing how they deal with the changes in such a short notice. I want to see terrans try to go ghosts lategame and see what happens vs. broodlord/ultra and infestor.
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On February 18 2012 17:55 IMoperator wrote:
The time may be bad for pros, but it's gonna be really interesting seeing how they deal with the changes in such a short notice. I want to see terrans try to go ghosts lategame and see what happens vs. broodlord/ultra and infestor.
TLO insta wins with Seeker Mis-
Oh wait he plays Zerg. ;;
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smart teams will make custom maps that they can practice the new changes on. the disadvantage, however, is that if the changes dont go through, all their time is wasted. lol
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They'll probably end up changing the patch date. Plus I thought they let MLG and other high tournaments pick what patch they want to play on for their tournament. Am I right or wrong on that?
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I understand the patch being released 1 day before major tournaments (if that is even the correct time-frame anyways) does suck major donkey dick.
But, isn't the PTR open to everyone? Can't teams, practice partners, etc., get together on the PTR to get more than 1 day's worth of practice time? Or is that too far-fetched to think that way...-_-
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To be fair, there's so many small and big tournaments going on all the time (GSL/NASL/ironSquid/Playhem/KSL/MLG qualifiers/IPL and many smaller ones) that there's never a good time for a new patch release. Sure it sucks for MLG and Assembly but it's not they can't take precautions against those balance changes (custom maps anyone?).
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I'm starting to wonder if our generation completely lack reading comprehension... They are releasing the patch the 27th on SEA which has no consequences for Assembly/MLG. The patch will hit NA/Europe on Tuesday/Wednesday several days before the tournaments start.
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And why would they care about some tournaments? We got big tournament every weekend or 2 so that reason to delay patch is invalid.
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MLG could make pre-patch custom maps for every map and have the players play on those 
undermine blizzard's terrible decision!
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On February 18 2012 18:11 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:MLG could make pre-patch custom maps for every map and have the players play on those undermine blizzard's terrible decision!
They don't have the balls to do that.
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