EPTThey don't allow time for metagame shift and everything that seems powerful just instantly gets nerfed.
And yeah, the patch timing is horrible too.
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
They don't allow time for metagame shift and everything that seems powerful just instantly gets nerfed. And yeah, the patch timing is horrible too. | ||
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jupiter6
205 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:17 inFeZa wrote: I have come to the conclusion that the phoenix upgrade is utterly useless in PvZ. Mutas are still way to fucking stupid. On February 23 2012 11:10 Lobotomist wrote: Bad timing, not the best changes. I think the Ghost nerf was over-done, and I think that the pheonix buff is either going to be a) useless or b) way too strong at shutting down muta play. what did you expect? blizzard is quite clueless in this matter, i dont belive they consulted with pros on those changes they seem so random and not really fixing problems they want them to do. its not first time they did illogical stuff they had to change later( hi bunker, thor energy, fungal etc) | ||
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MelodyBW
Ukraine154 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:27 jupiter6 wrote: what did you expect? blizzard is quite clueless in this matter, i dont belive they consulted with pros on those changes they seem so random and not really fixing problems they expect them to do. its not first time they did illogical stuff they had to change later( hi bunker, thor energy, fungal etc) Yeah, this patch is pretty stupid. At least they could have enabled the PTR.. | ||
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daredpanda
United States60 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
I don't really mind the current changes, they just made things easier. Never saw a reason to make phoenix easier against mutas (but phoenix control takes alot of your time, so its a nice lategame lazyness buff) or make it easier for zerg to mess up a terran with tech switches(the snipe nerf should have the highest impact on low level, where tech switches are easier to pull off for zerg). On high level i think not to much will change, just that people will add marauders after a certain ghost amount. And that zerg will wonder why their infestors suddenly seem so ineffective. So yeah i guess this patch will bite zerg in the ass along with terran (who will get a problem against mass zealots). Oh and more terrans will drop down in rank all over the ladder up to diamond. My personal tvz style just got buffed atleast. Anyway the current patch came out of observation and internal testing by Blizzard, so i wonder if the terran testers have some sort of trick, that allows him to snipe broodlords and ultras still with 25 damage and still win the game. Or if the zerg just have no idea what he is doing. (a transfuse now blocks 5 snipes 125 energy vs 50, so you can fail with more then the half of your transfuses) I will miss my science vessel in sc2 atleast. But its blizzards game :3 and if they want tvz to look like tvp, they can have it. (Bio vikings vs deathball) | ||
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote: --------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded? agreed | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
Ok, did you really have to quote this 5 day old post? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote: Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD Changes have been known about for some time. Wouldn't surprise me if the serious teams had made their own custom maps with the changes implemented for them to practice on. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote: Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD So the patch is out on the korean server right now? | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote: Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD OMFG are you serious??? gl to Gumiho of beating DRG though. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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SillyPrincess
Canada115 Posts
On February 18 2012 12:52 Acronysis wrote: Ugh, thats devistating. That could totally scew the results for the events =/ I thought they wouldve at least slightly planned it out. Guess not. They only changed ghost snipe because it was never intended to counter broodlords in the manner they did. (Watch NesTea vs MvP). So basically the only 'result' that gets screwed are people who split the map in half with planetary fortresses and make 20 ghosts and wait for the map to be mined while zerg can do nothing about it. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:22 SillyPrincess wrote: They only changed ghost snipe because it was never intended to counter broodlords in the manner they did. (Watch NesTea vs MvP). So basically the only 'result' that gets screwed are people who split the map in half with planetary fortresses and make 20 ghosts and wait for the map to be mined while zerg can do nothing about it. There's a certainly alot more to it then just split Map .... | ||
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IMPrime
United States715 Posts
Snipe was good against ultras and BLs, but all they had to do was tone down the damage against just those two, as snipe was completely fine against everything else it could possibly be used on. qxc's suggestion (do less damage to massive, as ultras are massive and I believe BLs are too, but if they're not then blizzard could've just made a simple change to that as well) was at face value the best solution. The fact that Blizzard just did a massive nerf to it shows that they really have no clue about the metagame. Now the only things snipe is even worth using on can be EMP'd anyway. | ||
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McPricE
58 Posts
OK - Browder, Kim u guys wanna butt-fuck ghosts sans lube, FINE. At least do minus damage to massive so ur FIXING the perceived FUCKING problem, not RUINING an entire fucking unit and IMO and entire fucking matchup lategame (and the best MU at that!). The only hope is that the nerf is such overkill that Terrans just lol die and it gets fixed. I say Fuck blizzard and fuck anyone who thinks this patch is Kosher. Ban me. I dont give a fuck. Oh and if you tell me to stop QQing and play a different race - FUCK you. Protoss are gay fucking aliens and Zerg are the inherently evil bad guys from Startship troopers. Who the fuck wants to kill humans with either of those fucking pathetic lifeforms. FUCK this game I wish I could just quit. | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote: Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD Wait, Truth or troll? | ||
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Reval
United States297 Posts
On February 23 2012 11:35 daredpanda wrote: Its only White-Ra's opinion on the Phoenix upgrade after some laddering. Just saying.... http://i.imgur.com/xLVfo.png Every protoss knows it is. | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
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SrJoSeZ
Peru121 Posts
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