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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 02:21:23
February 23 2012 02:20 GMT
#1181
It just feels like the Blizzard balance team don't really understand the game.

They don't allow time for metagame shift and everything that seems powerful just instantly gets nerfed.



And yeah, the patch timing is horrible too.
jupiter6
Profile Joined December 2011
205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 02:37:10
February 23 2012 02:27 GMT
#1182
On February 23 2012 11:17 inFeZa wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that the phoenix upgrade is utterly useless in PvZ. Mutas are still way to fucking stupid.

On February 23 2012 11:10 Lobotomist wrote:
Bad timing, not the best changes. I think the Ghost nerf was over-done, and I think that the pheonix buff is either going to be a) useless or b) way too strong at shutting down muta play.

what did you expect? blizzard is quite clueless in this matter, i dont belive they consulted with pros on those changes they seem so random and not really fixing problems they want them to do. its not first time they did illogical stuff they had to change later( hi bunker, thor energy, fungal etc)
MelodyBW
Profile Joined November 2011
Ukraine154 Posts
February 23 2012 02:31 GMT
#1183
On February 23 2012 11:27 jupiter6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 11:17 inFeZa wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that the phoenix upgrade is utterly useless in PvZ. Mutas are still way to fucking stupid.

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 11:10 Lobotomist wrote:
Bad timing, not the best changes. I think the Ghost nerf was over-done, and I think that the pheonix buff is either going to be a) useless or b) way too strong at shutting down muta play.

what did you expect? blizzard is quite clueless in this matter, i dont belive they consulted with pros on those changes they seem so random and not really fixing problems they expect them to do. its not first time they did illogical stuff they had to change later( hi bunker, thor energy, fungal etc)


Yeah, this patch is pretty stupid. At least they could have enabled the PTR..
daredpanda
Profile Joined January 2012
United States60 Posts
February 23 2012 02:35 GMT
#1184
Its only White-Ra's opinion on the Phoenix upgrade after some laddering. Just saying....
http://i.imgur.com/xLVfo.png
Terran sandwich with Archon bread. GG all day long!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 23 2012 02:35 GMT
#1185
you should rather wish for that the other races players would be as good, so we see more awesome games. Alot of balance changes came because people didn't even tried or no one listened to them.
I don't really mind the current changes, they just made things easier. Never saw a reason to make phoenix easier against mutas (but phoenix control takes alot of your time, so its a nice lategame lazyness buff) or make it easier for zerg to mess up a terran with tech switches(the snipe nerf should have the highest impact on low level, where tech switches are easier to pull off for zerg). On high level i think not to much will change, just that people will add marauders after a certain ghost amount. And that zerg will wonder why their infestors suddenly seem so ineffective.
So yeah i guess this patch will bite zerg in the ass along with terran (who will get a problem against mass zealots). Oh and more terrans will drop down in rank all over the ladder up to diamond.
My personal tvz style just got buffed atleast.

Anyway the current patch came out of observation and internal testing by Blizzard, so i wonder if the terran testers have some sort of trick, that allows him to snipe broodlords and ultras still with 25 damage and still win the game. Or if the zerg just have no idea what he is doing. (a transfuse now blocks 5 snipes 125 energy vs 50, so you can fail with more then the half of your transfuses)
I will miss my science vessel in sc2 atleast. But its blizzards game :3 and if they want tvz to look like tvp, they can have it. (Bio vikings vs deathball)
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
February 23 2012 02:41 GMT
#1186
On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?


agreed
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 23 2012 02:51 GMT
#1187
On February 23 2012 11:41 Jornada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?


agreed

Ok, did you really have to quote this 5 day old post?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 23 2012 02:52 GMT
#1188
Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
February 23 2012 02:56 GMT
#1189
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote:
Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD


Changes have been known about for some time. Wouldn't surprise me if the serious teams had made their own custom maps with the changes implemented for them to practice on.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 23 2012 03:00 GMT
#1190
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote:
Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD

So the patch is out on the korean server right now?
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 23 2012 03:06 GMT
#1191
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote:
Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD

OMFG are you serious??? gl to Gumiho of beating DRG though.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 23 2012 03:10 GMT
#1192
Could someone attending MLG please take a swing at Robert Simpson for being the esports-representative of a company that decides to roll out major balance changes on the day of GSL semis and the day before two major LAN tournaments take place. Blizzard, why so stupid? Well maybe don't quite do that, but at least make him give an awkward answer to the question of what the hell they are thinking. MLG, time for redemption. For the sake of competition that makes sense.
SillyPrincess
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada115 Posts
February 23 2012 03:22 GMT
#1193
On February 18 2012 12:52 Acronysis wrote:
Ugh, thats devistating. That could totally scew the results for the events =/ I thought they wouldve at least slightly planned it out. Guess not.


They only changed ghost snipe because it was never intended to counter broodlords in the manner they did. (Watch NesTea vs MvP). So basically the only 'result' that gets screwed are people who split the map in half with planetary fortresses and make 20 ghosts and wait for the map to be mined while zerg can do nothing about it.
For the swarm. ♥
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
February 23 2012 03:24 GMT
#1194
On February 23 2012 12:22 SillyPrincess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 12:52 Acronysis wrote:
Ugh, thats devistating. That could totally scew the results for the events =/ I thought they wouldve at least slightly planned it out. Guess not.


They only changed ghost snipe because it was never intended to counter broodlords in the manner they did. (Watch NesTea vs MvP). So basically the only 'result' that gets screwed are people who split the map in half with planetary fortresses and make 20 ghosts and wait for the map to be mined while zerg can do nothing about it.



There's a certainly alot more to it then just split Map ....
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 03:26:24
February 23 2012 03:25 GMT
#1195
Certainly that whole game wasn't nestea being an idiot with his broodlords but ghosts just being OP, right?

Snipe was good against ultras and BLs, but all they had to do was tone down the damage against just those two, as snipe was completely fine against everything else it could possibly be used on. qxc's suggestion (do less damage to massive, as ultras are massive and I believe BLs are too, but if they're not then blizzard could've just made a simple change to that as well) was at face value the best solution. The fact that Blizzard just did a massive nerf to it shows that they really have no clue about the metagame.

Now the only things snipe is even worth using on can be EMP'd anyway.
McPricE
Profile Joined May 2010
58 Posts
February 23 2012 03:47 GMT
#1196
Blizzard is so fucking retarded. I mean really. Patch timing? Seriously thats worse timing than dumping ur GF on the day her dad dies. HEY lets completely ruin one of the main units in the Terran army b/c like 3 ppl in the world are gosu enough to make it look OP in like 3 isolated games. Im only a diamond level player and my understanding of the game isn't top notch but an underdeveloped howler monkey would know the snipe change is FUCKING OUTLANDISH! ALL CAPS SCREAMING!!!

OK - Browder, Kim u guys wanna butt-fuck ghosts sans lube, FINE. At least do minus damage to massive so ur FIXING the perceived FUCKING problem, not RUINING an entire fucking unit and IMO and entire fucking matchup lategame (and the best MU at that!). The only hope is that the nerf is such overkill that Terrans just lol die and it gets fixed. I say Fuck blizzard and fuck anyone who thinks this patch is Kosher. Ban me. I dont give a fuck.

Oh and if you tell me to stop QQing and play a different race - FUCK you. Protoss are gay fucking aliens and Zerg are the inherently evil bad guys from Startship troopers. Who the fuck wants to kill humans with either of those fucking pathetic lifeforms.

FUCK this game I wish I could just quit.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
February 23 2012 03:48 GMT
#1197
On February 23 2012 11:52 blade55555 wrote:
Well korean patch was released today, on the day of the semi finals xD


Wait, Truth or troll?
Reval
Profile Joined January 2012
United States297 Posts
February 23 2012 03:50 GMT
#1198
On February 23 2012 11:35 daredpanda wrote:
Its only White-Ra's opinion on the Phoenix upgrade after some laddering. Just saying....
http://i.imgur.com/xLVfo.png


Every protoss knows it is.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
February 23 2012 03:52 GMT
#1199
My TW/KR client patching right now:
[image loading]
SrJoSeZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru121 Posts
February 23 2012 03:54 GMT
#1200
Nice post McPrice ! I'm with you XD
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