EPTMusic copyright issue. Are streamers immune to it? - Page 10
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GhostLink
United States450 Posts
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
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askTeivospy
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On April 01 2012 12:52 GhostLink wrote: I honestly hate copyright laws in general. AS Anonymous said, intelligence and information should not count as property. Once information is out in the public, anyone who wants can recreate it, and there are no physical boundaries stopping one, but these laws. The media manufacturing giants fail to create a free usable distribution platform, so it is their fault, and copyright laws are just an excuse. well if intelligence is free for everyone, why give mine to someone who didn't earn/work/create/deserve it? Altruism is overrated | ||
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RoyAlex
Norway420 Posts
On April 01 2012 12:44 Shiori wrote: fortunately most counties don't have the ridiculous laws that the USA does regarding copyrights and IP, which means it's unlikely that any user found guilty of supposed infringement will receive any more consequences than simply having their account banned. unless you're some sort of pirate mogul, don't expect to be extradited. it's not stealing at all and anyone who thinks it is is a fool and committing a logical fallacy of assumption re future sales. Nobody! fucking NOBODY cares about the people who would not buy or listen(on a legit radio/steam that actually pays money to a administrator copyrights organisations(sry i don't know what it's called, just whatever the equivalent to www.tono.no would be to Norway)) to that track/song anyway no matter what, but... people care about the ones that maybe would consider buying that track/song. ! -_- ! | ||
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GhostLink
United States450 Posts
On April 01 2012 12:55 askTeivospy wrote: well if intelligence is free for everyone, why give mine to someone who didn't earn/work/create/deserve it? Altruism is overrated They could sell their original records, that would make a TON of money. So it's not altruism. But once that is out in the public, they shouldn't be any laws preventing users from recreating, sharing, and broadcasting it. Companies should take that as free advertising for their content. I mean this is why we resisted SOPA/PIPA in the first place, come on guys! | ||
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RoyAlex
Norway420 Posts
On April 01 2012 12:55 RmoteCntrld wrote: I don't see how anyone should care since they aren't really making money off the music. No one tunes into hear the music iNcontrol is playing they tune in to see him play SC2 Ofc nobody cares if they are not involved......... -.-. Probaby true, so streamers should stop streaming Copyright music. Everyone who steams copyright music should be banned from Twitch.tv after getting warnings. | ||
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Ghost.573
United States126 Posts
Overall it would be pathetic of them to do any such thing because its not like the streamers are making money off of the music. They make money from the advertisements that they play and honestly companies should be happy. If a big player listens to a certain artist a lot, than many people will hear it and possibly buy the music themselves. | ||
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Ghost.573
United States126 Posts
On April 01 2012 13:05 RoyAlex wrote: Ofc nobody cares if they are not involved......... -.-. Probaby true, so streamers should stop streaming Copyright music. Everyone who steams copyright music should be banned from Twitch.tv after getting warnings. Get over it. Would you rather just hear a silent stream? I mean seriously, its not hurting anybody and there should be nothing done about it unless the music companies raise an alarm. I for one would never watch a stream if it was just silent while they were playing. | ||
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Ghost.573
United States126 Posts
On April 01 2012 11:35 TheSir wrote: I heard the same thing 10 years ago when people started showing vid's and songs on their blogs, no one would care.. well look what happened to that. It's just a matter of time before a organization is tipped about gamers who stream with copyrighted music and then they and twitch/owned/justin etc etc have a big problem. If i was twitch/owned etc i wouldn't even allow my users to stream copyrighted material unless they have a license, they could get in to pretty big problems. Then i guess that means that every sc2 stream has to be shut down. I mean SC2 itself is copyrighted material. Im willing to bet that very few have the rights to stream it either. So if music is shut down than individual streams would have to be shut down as well | ||
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Ghost.573
United States126 Posts
On April 01 2012 10:52 WolfintheSheep wrote: ...that rule does not exist. It sounds like something a highschool kid made up. Rock Band and Guitar Hero videos are also copyright infringing, they're just overlooked. Unless the videogame licenses actually allow 3rd party broadcasting, but that's extremely doubtful. No its true lmao... thats why on youtube people slightly slow down or speed up a song. Its not the original and thus the artist does not own it. | ||
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RoyAlex
Norway420 Posts
On April 01 2012 12:52 GhostLink wrote: I honestly hate copyright laws in general. AS Anonymous said, intelligence and information should not count as property. Once information is out in the public, anyone who wants can recreate it, and there are no physical boundaries stopping one, but these laws. The media manufacturing giants fail to create a free usable distribution platform, so it is their fault, and copyright laws are just an excuse. Physical boundaries stopping one... You clearly don't understand the digital world. The laws should involve, understand & pay attention to the digital world. Just because something is "out" in the digital world, it should not just be free to everyone to rape it into whatever/how they want. There are several free usable distribution platform(like radio), but until Twitch.tv start paying royalties to the Artists they are an illegal way of distributing copyrighted music. Music artist most clearly needs to be supported if Twitch want to streamers to play copyrighted music live on stream. The money of ads (or ANY MADE MONEY!! streaming involved copyrighted music) should not only go to the broadcaster or Justin.tv/Twitch.tv but to ALL THE PARTIES INVOLED !!! : Broadcaster, Twitch.tv & Music artists/lables. FUCK ! This thread is hell to me..... | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On April 01 2012 12:52 GhostLink wrote: I honestly hate copyright laws in general. AS Anonymous said, intelligence and information should not count as property. Once information is out in the public, anyone who wants can recreate it, and there are no physical boundaries stopping one, but these laws. The media manufacturing giants fail to create a free usable distribution platform, so it is their fault, and copyright laws are just an excuse. You clearly have no idea how copyright laws work. They protect a certain expression of an idea not the idea itself. You're thinking about patents and there's a reason why it's a lot harder to get one. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On April 01 2012 11:29 TBone- wrote: I think we're all ignoring it and praying that nobody cares. I am curious what NASL season 2 finals did because they used almost all copywritten material. Specifically with the player intros. They paid the fees to be licensed. JP said so on SOTG and said those fees are why you won't be seeing something like that at an MLG. | ||
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Sublimation
Canada25 Posts
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RoyAlex
Norway420 Posts
On April 01 2012 13:28 S_SienZ wrote: They paid the fees to be licensed. JP said so on SOTG and said those fees are why you won't be seeing something like that at an MLG. Hm, yes that is an interesting question. Im going to guess Dreamhack payed those rights, but I imagine (and only imagine/guess) those rights would be more expensive in America (home of Hollywood & Copyright) than in any other country, especially Sweden or any other Scandinavian country. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On April 01 2012 13:41 RoyAlex wrote: Hm, yes that is an interesting question. Im going to guess Dreamhack payed those rights, but I imagine (and only imagine/guess) those rights would be more expensive in America (home of Hollywood & Copyright) than in any other country, especially Sweden or any other Scandinavian country. It should be the same to be honest. Copyright arises automatically upon creation of the work and is worldwide while patents have to be registered individually in every region to get protection. So I don't think copyright would have regional differences. Copyright also started in UK iirc, google Statute of Anne. | ||
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RoyAlex
Norway420 Posts
On April 01 2012 13:44 S_SienZ wrote: It should be the same to be honest. Copyright arises automatically upon creation of the work and is worldwide while patents have to be registered individually in every region to get protection. So I don't think copyright would have regional differences. Copyright also started in UK iirc, google Statute of Anne. Oh okey, i just presumed that America might have different standards than the rest of the world, and other contries have different prices/standards. I know that I get instant Copyright on whatever I create & is worldwide. It never occurred to me to research the different standards bit (since it's not really my job) but I think I will just to get a better picture of the big thing. =) | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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iAmiAnC
United Kingdom317 Posts
On April 01 2012 13:52 Stropheum wrote: Streamers make significantly less ad revenue for streaming copyrighted music. That's why destiny stopped playing anything with a copyright a few months back. So no, they're not immune. source? | ||
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