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Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
February 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#781
I agree with Mr. Bitter, but the price is too high. Make it like at the GSL with yearly tickets abonnements and 1 free stream or 2 without vods, loads of ads, bad quality, around 360p. The Premium pass, with access to all features, Vods, HD, no Ads, Premium Streams, Special content during Ad-pause, About everything you CAN deliver for "free" (no extra charge).

But PPV ain´t the way, if there are so many guys and girls protesting, there may be a drastical cut on viewers, especially the casual viewer who only watch big events, they will never be willing to pay.

I´m no buisness man, but im sure you´ll lose half your viewership of sc2, since there are way more people watching than playing and nerding around like me!
ki11z0ne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States427 Posts
February 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#782
loved it.... glad MLG is makin it PPV but i think 20$ is a lil too steep 10 would be perfecto!
SC > halo
Hug-A-Hydralisk
Profile Joined February 2012
United States174 Posts
February 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#783
There's nothing wrong with monotization. If the monotizer's only agenda is to make money instead of entertaining, then the monotizer will lose ratings then shutdown and restore balance to the universe.
Get your PC gaming fix here: http://www.youtube.com/cinicraft YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!
MortOrGuilt
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom23 Posts
February 15 2012 02:01 GMT
#784
I think $20 is a bit extortionate to be honest, $10 would maybe even be too much. It's not like the leagues are all currently dying due to lack of funding and I think getting their cash from advertising is the best way of doing it.

I'd be willing to pay a small fee, like $5 and that would mean more people are willing to pay so in turn probably making them more money, but thats it really. The problem with charging though at the moment is that the current casters and streaming is no were near the proffesional level where I'd accept that charge, awkward pauses, uncomfortable/in jokes and just plain bad commentating is rife at times. Add that to long waits between matches and random issues due to Blizz's lack of support for such tournaments and its all a bit much to put up with when you are paying imo.
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
February 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#785
I feel that it would be just milking your hardcore fanbase. Maybe you'd get some short term revenue, but you prevent the scene from growing.

Looking at Korea, what made BW successful wasn't really about how much people paid to watch games, but rather on how it managed to seep into the general pop culture.

A lot of people I know didn't really get that much into SC2 or GSL because you had to pay. Now they all moved on to LoL.
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
February 15 2012 03:10 GMT
#786
everyone should just take FXO invitational as a comparison. With their first week analysis 132763 unique viewers. 66 subscribers to the event which was only $5. and this is 5 weekends of games. Might not be as high in terms of productive value compared to MLG and the player quality is quite similar though. $5... And they have a huge raffle with really good prizes to encourage subscribers. I don't know what the numbers of subscribers are at now but you can see what part and how much the sc2 community will pay.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
February 15 2012 03:12 GMT
#787
On February 15 2012 12:10 Northern_iight wrote:
everyone should just take FXO invitational as a comparison. With their first week analysis 132763 unique viewers. 66 subscribers to the event which was only $5. and this is 5 weekends of games. Might not be as high in terms of productive value compared to MLG and the player quality is quite similar though. $5... And they have a huge raffle with really good prizes to encourage subscribers. I don't know what the numbers of subscribers are at now but you can see what part and how much the sc2 community will pay.


Let's suppose all the big budget tournaments go under, and we only have FXOpen, ESVision, and the barcraft-funded tournaments left of any scale. Is that a future we are willing to accept?
Thank God and gunrun.
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