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Rumpus
Profile Joined August 2011
United States136 Posts
April 21 2012 20:50 GMT
#1641
Amazing how such a reputable and loved company like Blizzard, with seemingly unlimited resources, has made one of the shittiest interfaces in video games ever.

And these passionate and talented community members, and opposing companies with games that aren't even on the same game-play or time/resource consumption ballpark (hell they are free!) have put more time and effort into this crucial part of the game. Creating a fresh, easy, and complete interface for their fans and customers. Blizzard is pathetic.
Grammin'
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
April 21 2012 20:52 GMT
#1642
I already wrote something about this and why i think its done this way. Anyhow, i dont care. Im just gonna buy games from small independent companies, and probably "not buy" big names like diablo 3 and so on. (except montreal based games maybe).

not to mention there are tons of free to play games out there that are insanely good.

This is a coaster anyway, sooner or later, blizzard will be something like EA, and then something like .... techland will become the new blizzard...

The important part is to always be awake so you dont buy games that you dont actually like :D.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
eVolvE342
Profile Joined January 2011
157 Posts
April 21 2012 20:53 GMT
#1643
lol check out huskies new video on the comparison between dota 2 ui and sc2 ui... it is unbelievable....
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
April 21 2012 20:59 GMT
#1644
On April 15 2012 18:56 dangeraardvark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 17:58 TheLongKahn wrote:
I suspect the reason for the lack of improvements is financially motivated. Developing "real" improvements costs time and money, whereas retroactively implementing features from prior games is easier and simpler from a development and technical aspect.

I fear this is a problem recurrent throughout a majority of video game companies and their respective offerings. It's cold-hearted capitalism and does not engender the community's favor.


This is my thinking as well. It costs money to overhaul a UI, and what do they gain from it? Battlenet is free. So they're not trying to retain subscriptions. Attracting new players? For a two year old game? Not likely. They're just trying not alienate the current user base too much until Diablo 3 hits.

Yep, they are just laughing and swimming in their pools of money while flicking us off. Meanwhile, we are trying to be civilized fans and trying to convince them to make the game more successful for them... Blizzard is going FUBAR, no question about it. The D3 Beta experience CLEARLY shows that they no longer give two fucks or that they still have the most fucking retarded console Multiplayer developer in the world.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
fickazzz
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 21:19:32
April 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#1645
wow i really didn't think they could make sc2 ui even worse...
you are not even able to create your own chatroom in d3 ...
blizzard could improve bnet sooo much in only 1 year, but they don't and the reason has to be connected with money imo
it's so sad when you know how much better bnet 2 could be if they would actually try :/
i)awn
Profile Joined October 2011
United States189 Posts
April 21 2012 21:17 GMT
#1646
On April 22 2012 05:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
lol check out huskies new video on the comparison between dota 2 ui and sc2 ui... it is unbelievable.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hpbSKGbzKg


This makes me sad. Respect for Valve.
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
April 21 2012 21:56 GMT
#1647
On April 22 2012 05:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
lol check out huskies new video on the comparison between dota 2 ui and sc2 ui... it is unbelievable.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hpbSKGbzKg


Quite depressing unfortunately, makes you more excited for Dota 2 though.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
April 21 2012 21:58 GMT
#1648
On April 22 2012 06:17 i)awn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
lol check out huskies new video on the comparison between dota 2 ui and sc2 ui... it is unbelievable.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hpbSKGbzKg


This makes me sad. Respect for Valve.


Yup. And no respect for Blizzard.
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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 21 2012 22:06 GMT
#1649
On April 22 2012 05:31 Zaqwert wrote:
The Diablo 3 open beta is this weekend. I know this is hard to believe, but the chat and social features in it are actually WORSE than SC2.

Seriously, download the beta and observe how absolutely awful the social interface is, if you even want to call it that.

To me it's clear Blizzard is intentionally seeking to destroy the social aspects of their games, they don't want people building communities or making new friends on the service.... why, I have absolutely no idea.


I have to agree with this, SC2 lacks nearly everything but you can actually find easily most of the things it has. However it's different with Diablo 3.
ggaemo fan
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 21 2012 22:20 GMT
#1650
On April 14 2012 06:53 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 10:38 zuperketla wrote:
this guy has some good ideas:



pretty neat stuff - we need battle.net tournaments tho! :D
Holy shit, watching this makes you feel like: why wasn't this already possible? :O


Who says it isn't?
starleague forever
Rumpus
Profile Joined August 2011
United States136 Posts
April 21 2012 22:22 GMT
#1651
On April 22 2012 07:06 valaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:31 Zaqwert wrote:
The Diablo 3 open beta is this weekend. I know this is hard to believe, but the chat and social features in it are actually WORSE than SC2.

Seriously, download the beta and observe how absolutely awful the social interface is, if you even want to call it that.

To me it's clear Blizzard is intentionally seeking to destroy the social aspects of their games, they don't want people building communities or making new friends on the service.... why, I have absolutely no idea.


I have to agree with this, SC2 lacks nearly everything but you can actually find easily most of the things it has. However it's different with Diablo 3.


Time for an official Blizzard Boycott! Quick! Someone make a thread!
Grammin'
Raiquer
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden98 Posts
April 21 2012 23:21 GMT
#1652
I feel like we, as a community, should do something like sending Blizzard a lot of emails where we complain about this very serious issue.

For example:
If the whole community decides to just send an email each to Blizzard, where we complain about this and how bad the UI is compared to WC3, SC1 and even DOTA2's UI. We could also copy/paste the main points in this thread and a link to this thread and let Blizzard know that WE WANT CHANGE!
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 01:20:55
April 22 2012 01:20 GMT
#1653
On April 22 2012 06:17 i)awn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
lol check out huskies new video on the comparison between dota 2 ui and sc2 ui... it is unbelievable.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hpbSKGbzKg


This makes me sad. Respect for Valve.


The DotA 2 UI looks so lively with alot of things to do and socialise.

The Starcraft 2 UI is lonely and deserted.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#1654
If it was Blizzard alone, they might listen and make some drastic changes, but with Activision at the helm, there's no way they're that's going to happen. They simply won't give Blizzard the time and resources to improve on something they see little value in.
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 22 2012 02:28 GMT
#1655
On April 22 2012 10:52 Telcontar wrote:
If it was Blizzard alone, they might listen and make some drastic changes, but with Activision at the helm, there's no way they're that's going to happen. They simply won't give Blizzard the time and resources to improve on something they see little value in.

this has been my point forever. Activision is retarded when it comes to this type of stuff.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 22 2012 14:12 GMT
#1656
Thanks for the link to the DotA UI comparison, added to the OP.
treekiller
Profile Joined July 2010
United States236 Posts
April 22 2012 15:59 GMT
#1657
Why do people care so much about chat channels? By any technical measure, the chat channels are better in SC2. Better graphics. You can move them around. You can see your frinedlist/chat channel in game. There are fewer slash commands, but think about what you actually got from slash commands in BW.

http://classic.battle.net/info/commands.shtml

Number of users, time, help, dnd, whois, ignore. etc. All of these things are already available on screen, or a few clicks away. You cant mod chat channels, but I doubt that would make people want to use them. Dont blame SC2 on the fact that you have no friends.

Its true people dont socialize on chat channels very much, but the community has changed. People still playing SC2 are try hard. They mostly want to ladder. BW didnt really have an official ladder. The unofficial ladders had problems themselves. It took more time to find games. The matchmaking wasnt nearly as even. The system could be cheated (see Combat-Ex) and in many of them you had to report your games, including a reply. If you forgot to save that replay, that was it. It was gone forever.

The Dota 2 UI looks about the same as SC2. I do wish Blizzard let you upload your own picture, but you can understand the're concerns. Profile Pictures play a more prominent role. Im not intersted in seeing some fat chicks infected vagina everyday, everytime I ladder.

Dota 2 has no dedicated tab for replays. Its not clear to me even at this time were the replays are stored. SC2 tells you right away. You click "Show in folder".

If you need to organize a match, you have a perfectly suited chat channel, minus mod functionality. if you need to discuss something, such as "This UI sucks!" post on TL. If you want to socialize, whatever that means, you can meet people on TL or ingame. And if your really lonely I suggest you 1) get a grilfriend(or more if 1 isnt enough) 2) drink more, smoke more, pick your poison 3) kill youself 4) Go play LoL
All good things must come to an end. Therefore, SC2 will last forever
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 22 2012 16:01 GMT
#1658
You wrote such an elaborate post but apparently didn't take the time to actually read about the issue and the various user responses to it. Because that question of yours - "Why do people care so much about chat channels?" - is answered time and time again, along with a lot of other things. In text, with videos, with anecdotes ... we've got it all here. And if you want the short version: Because chat and interface done á la SC2 and DIII kill any feeling of community.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
April 22 2012 16:19 GMT
#1659
Watchin' Husky's video is so depressin'. It really shows how bad the starcraft 2 UI actually is. So sad..
treekiller
Profile Joined July 2010
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 16:20:05
April 22 2012 16:19 GMT
#1660
What is really different though about the chat channels?

I ve heard:

1)Mods
Valid point. A minor one though. I dont feel they are needed. They were mostly about meaningless status anyways. TL may need mods, they contribute in lots of ways. Aside from spam, which isnt a problem, what type of moderation is needed in chat channels?

2)Slash commands
Dont save as much time as you think, every feature they have in BW is included in some other form

3)I feel lonely
There is not chat immediatly hitting you in the face when you log in. SC2 feels less underground, less esoteric. I agree that you can feel less special, less important than in BW. Is that a bad thing?

All good things must come to an end. Therefore, SC2 will last forever
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