EPTGIVE ME THE ABILITY TO OBSERVE GAMES!!!! I freakin demand it ^^
UI still sub-par 2 years later. Why don't we care? - Page 84
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO OBSERVE GAMES!!!! I freakin demand it ^^ | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
But I still think it's terrible. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On April 23 2012 00:59 treekiller wrote: Why do people care so much about chat channels? By any technical measure, the chat channels are better in SC2. Better graphics. You can move them around. You can see your frinedlist/chat channel in game. There are fewer slash commands, but think about what you actually got from slash commands in BW. http://classic.battle.net/info/commands.shtml Number of users, time, help, dnd, whois, ignore. etc. All of these things are already available on screen, or a few clicks away. You cant mod chat channels, but I doubt that would make people want to use them. Dont blame SC2 on the fact that you have no friends. Its true people dont socialize on chat channels very much, but the community has changed. People still playing SC2 are try hard. They mostly want to ladder. BW didnt really have an official ladder. The unofficial ladders had problems themselves. It took more time to find games. The matchmaking wasnt nearly as even. The system could be cheated (see Combat-Ex) and in many of them you had to report your games, including a reply. If you forgot to save that replay, that was it. It was gone forever. The Dota 2 UI looks about the same as SC2. I do wish Blizzard let you upload your own picture, but you can understand the're concerns. Profile Pictures play a more prominent role. Im not intersted in seeing some fat chicks infected vagina everyday, everytime I ladder. Dota 2 has no dedicated tab for replays. Its not clear to me even at this time were the replays are stored. SC2 tells you right away. You click "Show in folder". If you need to organize a match, you have a perfectly suited chat channel, minus mod functionality. if you need to discuss something, such as "This UI sucks!" post on TL. If you want to socialize, whatever that means, you can meet people on TL or ingame. And if your really lonely I suggest you 1) get a grilfriend(or more if 1 isnt enough) 2) drink more, smoke more, pick your poison 3) kill youself 4) Go play LoL No, you're wrong. Social features are important more than ever because the number of active players is going down constantly. In fact, I would go as far as to say that the game is left with only the "tryhards", because all the social players have left the game due to the lack of social features and the horrible custom game system, which has all but killed the custom map scene, which was thriving in wc3. Dota 2 has no dedicated tab for replays. Its not clear to me even at this time were the replays are stored. SC2 tells you right away. You click "Show in folder". Why do you need a dedicated tab for replays when all replays are available at the single click of a button from your match history. Everything is associated by context (which is the best way for organizing data IMO). And its not just your own match history, you can download a replay from any friend's match history. Sharing replays is as simple as giving your friend a match ID, which allows him to quickly view the game. And then you ignore the best parts of DotA 2 UI - Jumping to any high level game and watch it directly from the client. The ability to spectate any friend's game. The update news inside the client. Hero performance statistics, win loss (for all levels, not just for high levels). Your nose is pretty brown at this point. | ||
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achristes
Norway653 Posts
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subl1me
Chile60 Posts
Well, If any major changes are going to happen, I guess it will be for HoTS  | ||
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treekiller
United States236 Posts
SC2 has declined in popularity. Thats just the casuals leaving. These people jump from game to game, new experience to new experience. They would leave regardless. The only way you can keep them is by watering down the core gameply. What I suspect people pinging for the good ol days of War3 or whatever are really suffering from is nostalgia. Youve gotten older. Your closer to dying. Your afraid of dying. I get it. That being said, of course the lack of LAN mode and shared replay is unacceptable. SC2 map editor will take time to learn. It has far more technical potential than the BW one did, or even the 3rd party ones did. Who cares about meaningless automated tournaments? We have real tournaments everyday for real money. For gods sakes have you people never head of IRC? Vent? Teampeak? Twitch.tv? They all have moderated chat. | ||
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Snorkle
United States1648 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:19 treekiller wrote: Not every player in Starcraft would be comfortable with just any random person watching their game at any time. I dont mind, but then again I dont ladder with the expectation that the whole world is watching. Recall the Ret replay hysteria when he was in BW. What delay would you want? 2 mins. 5mins? 10 mins? SC2 has declined in popularity. Thats just the casuals leaving. These people jump from game to game, new experience to new experience. They would leave regardless. The only way you can keep them is by watering down the core gameply. What I suspect people pinging for the good ol days of War3 or whatever are really suffering from is nostalgia. Youve gotten older. Your closer to dying. Your afraid of dying. I get it. That being said, of course the lack of LAN mode and shared replay is unacceptable. SC2 map editor will take time to learn. It has far more technical potential than the BW one did, or even the 3rd party ones did. Who cares about meaningless automated tournaments? We have real tournaments everyday for real money. For gods sakes have you people never head of IRC? Vent? Teampeak? Twitch.tv? They all have moderated chat. The SC2 UI is clunky no matter which way you slice it. Why are you so hard on blizzard that you cannot even admit that it is bad? Do you actually think it is good? Your suggestion of using IRC etc. has nothing to do with this thread unless you were suggesting IRC style chat channels in the SC2 UI... which would be awesome. | ||
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ArneX
Sweden24 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5262 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:19 treekiller wrote: SC2 has declined in popularity. Thats just the casuals leaving. These people jump from game to game, new experience to new experience. They would leave regardless. The only way you can keep them is by watering down the core gameply. What I suspect people pinging for the good ol days of War3 or whatever are really suffering from is nostalgia. Youve gotten older. Your closer to dying. Your afraid of dying. I get it. The thing is, WC3 maintained high popularity for such a long time solely because of it's awesome custom map community and easy to access community features. I had friends, casuals, by your definition, buy WC3 3 years after it's release just to start playing. WC3 was a hub where I just could hang out, play a myriad of games, and be for hours. It was standalone, so much better than the rest. I'm sure BW players feel the same way about their game. SC2 to me is just another game, sadly. Perhaps people have gotten older, but I haven't heard of anyone hyped up to buy SC2 these days. | ||
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treekiller
United States236 Posts
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:38 treekiller wrote: DotA doesnt count as War3. Sorry. except myself and other friends (some of whom weren't into RTS before sc2) have gone back to playing warcraft 3 with eachother and they just recently bought battle chests. it's not just dota | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2014 Posts
On April 23 2012 05:58 Chessz wrote: except myself and other friends (some of whom weren't into RTS before sc2) have gone back to playing warcraft 3 with eachother and they just recently bought battle chests. it's not just dota Run Kitty Run, oh good old times | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:38 treekiller wrote: DotA doesnt count as War3. Sorry. Don't go and make up some arbitrary scale of what you consider counting as War3. DotA is using the War3 client, it promotes War3 sales, and that's pretty much the only thing that counts. Sure, a lot of people especially in Asia use pirated versions and don't play on the official B.Net servers but the point stands; DotA is a custom map keeping the original game alive despite its age. That's a situation we'll never see happening in SC2 with the way things are right now. | ||
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eParadox
Canada132 Posts
Blizzard needs to see those. | ||
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PeanutsNJam
United States175 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:19 treekiller wrote: Not every player in Starcraft would be comfortable with just any random person watching their game at any time. I dont mind, but then again I dont ladder with the expectation that the whole world is watching. Recall the Ret replay hysteria when he was in BW. What delay would you want? 2 mins. 5mins? 10 mins? SC2 has declined in popularity. Thats just the casuals leaving. These people jump from game to game, new experience to new experience. They would leave regardless. The only way you can keep them is by watering down the core gameply. What I suspect people pinging for the good ol days of War3 or whatever are really suffering from is nostalgia. Youve gotten older. Your closer to dying. Your afraid of dying. I get it. That being said, of course the lack of LAN mode and shared replay is unacceptable. SC2 map editor will take time to learn. It has far more technical potential than the BW one did, or even the 3rd party ones did. Who cares about meaningless automated tournaments? We have real tournaments everyday for real money. For gods sakes have you people never head of IRC? Vent? Teampeak? Twitch.tv? They all have moderated chat. So because you think LAN mode and shared replay are important, they are important. Because you think social connectivity, chat mediums, automated tournaments, accessibility/ease of use, and all the other issues with Bnet 2.0 are irrelevant, they are therefore irrelevant. Yeah, right. Get your head out of your ass. | ||
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PersonDudeGuy
Canada47 Posts
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Catchafire2000
United States227 Posts
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
Chipmunk Linkin Park songs while you sprinted with your kitty in between all those scary wolves and saved other players who had perished. Those were the days, really... | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:02 Thylacine wrote: Chipmunk Linkin Park songs while you sprinted with your kitty in between all those scary wolves and saved other players who had perished. Those were the days, really... My Fucking God do you guys remember the LotR games? Footmen? WMW? HLW? Holy SHIT I remember all the games with "re#insert-number-here". Jesus, I would spend hours and hours playing the custom games on Warcraft 3 because of the amazing community and fucking innovative games it had. SCII? Can't find a decent map or have that experience playing with the same people over and over. Every custom game feels robotic and 90% of the time the people in the custom game with you don't even talk. Sigh. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:52 EienShinwa wrote: My Fucking God do you guys remember the LotR games? Footmen? WMW? HLW? Holy SHIT I remember all the games with "re#insert-number-here". Jesus, I would spend hours and hours playing the custom games on Warcraft 3 because of the amazing community and fucking innovative games it had. SCII? Can't find a decent map or have that experience playing with the same people over and over. Every custom game feels robotic and 90% of the time the people in the custom game with you don't even talk. Sigh. oh my, HLW, I played that fanatically. I have to admit, I never touched the single player or even 1v1 ladder. But got stuck in customs ever since. | ||
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