EPTUI still sub-par 2 years later. Why don't we care? - Page 45
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
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godly-cheese
United States67 Posts
On February 09 2012 13:52 wunsun wrote: What sort of public channels is D3 getting? B-net 1.0 style? From what I've heard. IRC style, so yes. BNet 1.0 style. | ||
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OmyVi
United States137 Posts
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Ero-Sennin
United States756 Posts
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
But who knows, maybe in HotS we'll get a nice suprise. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
On February 09 2012 15:43 goiflin wrote: I'm pretty sure nothing will change because it won't really make blizzard money if they invest into improving the UI. They have different features to be working on (Map marketplace, sequel's content, maps for marketplace, etc.) that can make them money. And I'm not sure the crowd of people who wouldn't want to buy HotS (because bnet 0.2 is still terrible) is significant enough for them to buy into actually focusing on improving the UI... But who knows, maybe in HotS we'll get a nice suprise. It might not, tho. Let's not take any risks. | ||
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SoxX
Canada15 Posts
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SilverASD
United States53 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
Let's hope we make the same impact for SC2 with our threads. | ||
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Twiggs
United States600 Posts
On February 09 2012 17:25 Shockk wrote: Nice to see the change in course for the Diablo 3 chat issue, added the respective bluepost to the OP. Whether this was indeed poor communication, a CM at fault or community pressure, it means D3 can only be better now. Let's hope we make the same impact for SC2 with our threads. I like what you say here because I think It hits a solid point. This is our game guys, who cares what the problem is (CMs, poor communication, not enough motivation from Blizzard) lets get this changed and make SC 2 better! And lets do everything we can to do that. Blow up their in-boxes and forums, who cares how long its been since beta, yes Bnet 2.0 was shit back then, "why bring it up now?" Because its shit and we finally want change and we WILL NOT get change if we just sit back Change Yes we can *Insert more inspirational revolutional words to inspire (It worked for Obama guys) Lets start a REVOLUTION!! | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
Now, Bashiok bring back reaver !  | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10842 Posts
On February 09 2012 19:12 bgx wrote: Oh it works Now, Bashiok bring back reaver ! Colossus and Reaver are immune to complaints/suggestions. People tryed that for longer than the game is even out . | ||
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
On February 09 2012 15:43 goiflin wrote: I'm pretty sure nothing will change because it won't really make blizzard money if they invest into improving the UI. They have different features to be working on (Map marketplace, sequel's content, maps for marketplace, etc.) that can make them money. And I'm not sure the crowd of people who wouldn't want to buy HotS (because bnet 0.2 is still terrible) is significant enough for them to buy into actually focusing on improving the UI... But who knows, maybe in HotS we'll get a nice suprise. thats what i think as well, thats why as many people as possible should keep posting in blizzards forums so they notice it and do something about it (they cant ignore it when ui complain thread would be every day for weeks the number one thread in their forums) | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On February 09 2012 19:45 Art_of_Kill wrote: thats what i think as well, thats why as many people as possible should keep posting in blizzards forums so they notice it and do something about it (they cant ignore it when ui complain thread would be every day for weeks the number one thread in their forums) It's the best - and pretty much the only - thing we can do. Community engagement has always made an impact in Blizzard games, even if it's become harder over the years. Even if Bashiok speaks true and it was nothing but a communication issue on their part, chances are the players wouldn't have heard about it that quickly had it not been for the huge activity on the forums, questioning the decisions regarding public chats. Keep the discussions alive, and we'll eventually get a reaction. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
There are several examples of this. E.g. some time before the release after heavy community pressure Blizzard publicly promised that there would be cross-server licenses couple of months after the release. Community was ok with this and waited. Couple of months after the release Blizzard made it possible for SEA accounts to use US server too. The technology was probably mostly ready for cross-server licenses at that point (of course more work would probably have been needed e.g. with billing). It has been easy for Blizzard to remain silent about the cross-server licenses since, as there has been no community pressure. The account name change issue is a bit similar case. There are also lots of smaller cases like when in March 2011 Blizzard removed the loss & total games counters from diamond & lower players as a 'quick fix' and claimed that they would consider implementing more meaningful statistics in the future. If Blizzard responds to this Battle.net critique started by this thread and promises something, the community should not just be satisfied with the response and wait. The community should remind Blizzard from time to time about their response/promise to make sure that they cannot presume that the community has forgotten it and do nothing. (edit: small spelling fixes) | ||
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theBlues
El Salvador638 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On February 09 2012 20:38 korona wrote: There are several examples of this. E.g. some time before the release after heavy community pressure Blizzard publicly promised that there would be cross-server licenses couple of months after the release. Community was ok with this and waited. Couple of months after the release Blizzard made it possible for SEA accounts to use US server too. The technology was probably mostly ready for cross-server licenses at that point (of course more work would probably have been needed e.g. with billing). It has been easy for Blizzard to remain silent about the cross-server licenses since, as there has been no community pressure. The account name change issue is a bit similar case. There are also lots of smaller cases like when in March 2011 Blizzard removed the loss & total games counters from diamond & lower players as a 'quick fix' and claimed that they would consider implementing more meaningful statistics in the future. I've said this when they removed the win/loss statistics, and I'll say it again. Blizzard will never add any meaningful statistics, like win/loss by race or map, because the inclusion of these statistics will make it possible to reconstruct ones win/loss ratio, which defeats the point of hiding it in the first place -- to stop the hurt feelings of below Master's players who don't like seeing their losses recorded. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
On February 09 2012 21:03 paralleluniverse wrote: I've said this when they removed the win/loss statistics, and I'll say it again. Blizzard will never add any meaningful statistics, like win/loss by race or map, because the inclusion of these statistics will make it possible to reconstruct ones win/loss ratio, which defeats the point of hiding it in the first place -- to stop the hurt feelings of below Master's players who don't like seeing their losses recorded. Thats fucking ridic tho.  | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3530213500 Read the entirety of it and you will know why them custom map system is so terrible I myself was shocked | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On February 09 2012 22:56 magnaflow wrote: Read this thread. It's a few pages but I reccommend reading the whole thing. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3530213500 Read the entirety of it and you will know why them custom map system is so terrible I myself was shocked Wow. Just wow. That is incredible, it's sad, but it's also a perfect example for the "new" Blizzard we've all been lamenting about. Added to the OP. | ||
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