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TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 26 2012 15:51 GMT
#141
i dont want to see them go. they are so...nostalgic
FTD
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 26 2012 15:56 GMT
#142
the carrier needs the battle cruiser buff
Fruitalchemist
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Greenland51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 15:57:09
January 26 2012 15:56 GMT
#143
+ 1

They suppose to be a T3 kick ass unit. Buff them already

This should be posted on the Blizzard forms also!!
<3 Huk <3 Drewbie....Manner > Skill
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 15:57:34
January 26 2012 15:56 GMT
#144
If the Thor is being switched out in place for the wannabe Goliath (just put the Goliath back in blizzard.. Its more a case of you won't admit you were wrong, and are making unneeded decisions trying to still prove you didn't make a mistake, rather than man up) Why can't the colossus be adapted.. made smaller.. something. If it overlaps with the carrier.. and everyone hates it.. both as part of balance discussions and death-ball mechanics... why the hell is it still there?

Keep the carrier.. adjust or dump the Colossus.
戦いの中に答えはある
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 26 2012 15:57 GMT
#145
I'd like to see it stay.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
January 26 2012 16:07 GMT
#146
Are there any strong Carrier builds out there? That would be the place to start toactually experiment and give it a presence on ladder - then Blizzard would notice - I'm assuming that's the intention.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
January 26 2012 16:09 GMT
#147
On January 26 2012 09:52 Acayex wrote:
Really hoping for the Carrier to stay and maybe Blizzard would look at the Colossus and the general Deathball style of Protoss instead so the Carrier can maintain its role, instead of having it overlap. It's extremely dull and uninteresting to both players and viewers IMO.

Here's hoping for the Colossus to get replaced with a non-Deathball AoE unit. (/prays for Reaver-style unit)


That's my thought as well, instead of removing the carrier, remove the colossus. Put the reaver, or another better designed than the colossus (not hard) siege unit into the game for protoss.
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States191 Posts
January 26 2012 16:20 GMT
#148
Even if the carrier does not get buffed, then it'll be like the SC:BW equivalent of the Scout.
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
January 26 2012 16:28 GMT
#149
I get that they want SC2 to be completely different from BW.

But please Blizzard listen to the community. I have not seen a single person who says Carrier should go. Not a sinlge one. Save the Carrier please
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
January 26 2012 16:42 GMT
#150
The carrier shouldn't be removed because it doesn't have a role now. Blizzard should not remove units from the game because no one is using them.

For example, in brood war, units such as the Devourer, Queen, Scout etc. are rarely used, but should they be removed from the game? No. They are not imbalanced, but they are unique in their own way and should not be touched.
flanksteak
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada246 Posts
January 26 2012 16:47 GMT
#151
Maybe buff templar/storm as your primary AOE for light/clumped units, remove colossus, replace with carrier to fulfill siege role? Of course you'd have to rejig a lot of things about the other races too - or at least make the colossus a more interesting unit
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
January 26 2012 16:55 GMT
#152
I'd like to see it stay as well, but it's a big underperformer.


*Brood War comparison in spoiler, but not looking to start the BW v SC2 fight.*

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BW was different because units didn't move like they do in SC2. The clumping and pathing in SC2 allows for situations that could have never taken place in BW. Everything seems like it's designed to just huddle in a ball and move. When a group of carriers approaches a clump of hydras, the player typically focus fires the carriers, and it goes down hard. Or if it approaches stalkers, not only do you have a clump, but you have a clump that can BLINK forward or backward. Thors also scare the shit out of me if I have carriers. And of course, these units are seldom the only unit in the composition, so there's tons of other shit to have to worry about. The Carrier just doesn't seem like it was designed to work with SC2 as fluidly as it was in BW.
ChEDo
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada310 Posts
January 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#153
+1 Save the Carriers!.
On January 26 2012 09:24 Tppz! wrote:
You cant save something that isnt used AT ALL.

Although Carriers aren't used much, they do make an appearance once in a while.

MC vs Select @ MLG
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0:55 #4 Hongun vs gix(?) and Hongun uses them quite often on his stream.
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If they tweaked the carrier a bit, it will be used much more. Even now they can be viable and do tremendous amounts of damage. I'm a mid-high master player and I used carriers in some of my games and had great success with them. Only problem is they are very fragile (corruptors, hydra, viking , marines) and extremely situational, but with some minor buffs I believe they can play a huge role in the PvX late game. Also they are super fun! Nothing is more rewarding then when you fly into your opponents base with 10 carriers 3-3-3 :D
h0oTiS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States101 Posts
January 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#154
I feel like the carrier has more potential if they were to tweak it a little, like maybe the drone's could fly off on their own idk there's so many posibilities for great game play but hell lets just stick to the Fing tempest becuase mutas are imba
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 26 2012 17:00 GMT
#155
On January 27 2012 01:28 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
I get that they want SC2 to be completely different from BW.

But please Blizzard listen to the community. I have not seen a single person who says Carrier should go. Not a sinlge one. Save the Carrier please


You clearly haven't read the whole thread.

Also, I don't know why so many people jump on the kill-colossus bandwagon. They want to get rid of the unit that is working as intended to keep the unit that is essentially useless.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
January 26 2012 17:09 GMT
#156
On January 27 2012 02:00 ampson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 01:28 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
I get that they want SC2 to be completely different from BW.

But please Blizzard listen to the community. I have not seen a single person who says Carrier should go. Not a sinlge one. Save the Carrier please


You clearly haven't read the whole thread.

Also, I don't know why so many people jump on the kill-colossus bandwagon. They want to get rid of the unit that is working as intended to keep the unit that is essentially useless.


They don't need to overlap though. In BW, Reavers didn't overlap with Carriers. I really have no idea where this silly argument that they intrinsically overlap with Colossus came from. They attack air, they have a larger range, they fly. There is so much different about them. All that they need are a few tweaks so that they are less vulnerable and are actually capable of leaving fights.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
January 26 2012 17:15 GMT
#157
On January 27 2012 02:00 ampson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 01:28 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
I get that they want SC2 to be completely different from BW.

But please Blizzard listen to the community. I have not seen a single person who says Carrier should go. Not a sinlge one. Save the Carrier please


You clearly haven't read the whole thread.

Also, I don't know why so many people jump on the kill-colossus bandwagon. They want to get rid of the unit that is working as intended to keep the unit that is essentially useless.


It's because we (or at least I) want the reaver back - reeeebu reeeebu reeebu!!!!!!!!
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
January 26 2012 17:24 GMT
#158
The most important argument for me is the iconic nature of the unit. I hope it stays.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
January 26 2012 17:26 GMT
#159
Personally I think they should buff the Carrier and remove the collosi
xO gaming owner
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
January 26 2012 17:29 GMT
#160
On January 27 2012 02:26 Hoodlum wrote:
Personally I think they should buff the Carrier and remove the collosi


PLEASE! For the love of all things protoss, get rid of the damned Colossi. It is ruining all the matchups. Give us back the Reaver!
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