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smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
March 09 2012 17:41 GMT
#261
Yea I'm not sure how to fix the order, it doesn't let you arrange them. Order doesn't matter too much anyway though.
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
March 10 2012 19:14 GMT
#262
We are going to do this weeks vods over the weekend. If you have any requests, please let us know! Also, if we compile enough questions, we will do a Q&A part 2. Thanks for watching.
romelako
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States373 Posts
March 10 2012 19:41 GMT
#263
Request: Correctly executing any variation of the following Zerg cheeses:
  • 6 pool
  • 7 pool
  • 8 pool
  • 9 pool
  • 10 pool (all-in that Nestea/DRG do)
  • 11 pool
  • 12 pool
  • 13 gas/pool
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 23:48:19
March 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#264
In addition to the request I made earlier about that +1 zeal/void timing, I have a question for the Q/A if you'd like it.

Well, 2.

1) When placing your macro hatch in ZvT for a build like infestor ling, do you like it as part of a walloff at the front, or in your main? There are definite advantages to having it wall off, but I find that some times that wall is a liability later in the game with siege pushes/drops, ultras getting trapped (><) etc. Do you think the wallin is worth it? I see a lot of pros using it, but that doesn't make it gospel.

2) In ZvP on maps like ST or other maps that don't have an easily accessible third, how do you change your opening? Do you still go for 3hatch>gas anyway and leave the third in a far off position, or do something different? I always try going gas/pool into 2 base muta, but I get shut down a lot by people guessing I was doing that and going 2 star Phoenix or something.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Danny Tanner
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 00:18:31
March 12 2012 00:15 GMT
#265
Thanks for doing these. You guys sound super Canadian.

@ Episodes being out of order: What about naming them with an episode number/game number first:

E12G1 - ZvZ - David vs NITRIXENERGY, EP12G2 - ZvT - ... and so on.
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
March 12 2012 01:09 GMT
#266
we are 100% canadian
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 13 2012 03:12 GMT
#267
VODs coming up soon? I quite enjoy hearing other zergs thought processes, and these are well done.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
March 13 2012 03:30 GMT
#268
I believe shawn has been away from his computer due to work, expect a couple eps before MLG I expect, as they get more excited to go.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
March 13 2012 09:40 GMT
#269
Plea for help:

If you can find anyone willing to 4-gate you, I'd love to see it. I've literally never beaten a 4-gate, and I've finally managed to claw my way back up the ladder to where people are doing them, which has dropped my win-rate vs Protoss to almost zero. I don't know what it is: I've watched endless VoDs and read endless guides on holding 4-gates and nothing helps. I'm just hoping something will click when I watch you do it, the way other things have clicked.

Cheers!
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
sanctuz
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway184 Posts
March 13 2012 14:33 GMT
#270
http://www.mediafire.com/?6p9vnsacje7dy19

Stephano replaypack from the 6th of March btw. If you run out of cool replays you could always do some of his?

Again great work, and waiting in pain for the next edition
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
March 13 2012 16:10 GMT
#271
On March 13 2012 23:33 sanctuz wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6p9vnsacje7dy19

Stephano replaypack from the 6th of March btw. If you run out of cool replays you could always do some of his?

Again great work, and waiting in pain for the next edition


We definitely intend to begin doing replays of Pro Zergs.
ErrorNA
Profile Joined November 2010
United States86 Posts
March 14 2012 08:36 GMT
#272
I do not know how you guys do not have more recognition, it honestly it frustrates me. Your analysis is exactly what people should be looking for!

it has helped me so much, without you guys i wouldnt be masters, i wouldnt be playing in upcoming local tournaments, i just want to thank you guys.
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
March 14 2012 08:43 GMT
#273
On March 14 2012 17:36 ErrorNA wrote:
I do not know how you guys do not have more recognition, it honestly it frustrates me. Your analysis is exactly what people should be looking for!

it has helped me so much, without you guys i wouldnt be masters, i wouldnt be playing in upcoming local tournaments, i just want to thank you guys.


Thanks, we appreciate the comments. We just did the new VoDs for this week. Should be up in a few hours.
sanctuz
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway184 Posts
March 14 2012 08:56 GMT
#274
Yey, its up on youtube now! Gonna eat my breakfast while watching.

Thanks alot! <3
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
March 14 2012 12:11 GMT
#275
Sorry guys 2 of the uploads failed over night. I'll start using incognito windows in Chrome to see if that helps. They should be up by tonight.
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
March 15 2012 03:34 GMT
#276
episode 13 is up little kittens
Precipice
Profile Joined April 2010
United States121 Posts
March 15 2012 03:36 GMT
#277
Fantastic commentary. These guys give information that goes far beyond anything you can get in a generic stream. If you're looking to get an idea of what goes through the heads of pro gamers, there's no better place to be there here.
Mastery is the fruit of repetition
6xFPCs
Profile Joined April 2009
United States412 Posts
March 15 2012 03:46 GMT
#278
On March 05 2012 11:13 smwatkin wrote:
We did a Q&A VOD answering the questions below.

1. 6xFPCs

regarding your all-in +1 roach bling, what happens when you see a spine-heavy defense with infestors? i rely on a composition that is more roach-heavy, and i recall a game where i attacked into spines, got my 4-6 blings fungaled from high ground (that is, couldn't have prepared for it), and was held off by lots of spines and a few roaches.
am i waiting too long to attack? or is a spine forest a sign that i should contain and saturate my third instead of attacking?



Thanks for the answers, guys, I just got around to catching up on the videos. I definitely am attacking late, but the build was a fast 2-base infestor, adding in spines because he scouted my roach count. He had two infestors/two fungals and managed to catch my blings. I will work on the timing.

As for the roach-heavy comment, I meant that for this timing attack/all-in, I tend to funnel all my gas into roaches instead of dumping into blings. This might be because I tend to have very few lings left by that point. So uh... don't worry? I'm not maxing on roach, I just meant that I have fewer banelings. This probably indicates the same timing issue that you guys mentioned regarding the opponent already have infestors, though.

Oh and my name means six fusion pulse cannons, it's from an esoteric space-based game called Escape Velocity: Nova.

Thanks again, and keep up the good work!

p.s. David, where do you go to med school? (PM me if it's a privacy issue.)
6xFPCs
Profile Joined April 2009
United States412 Posts
March 15 2012 04:49 GMT
#279
On March 11 2012 08:45 Arisen wrote:
In addition to the request I made earlier about that +1 zeal/void timing, I have a question for the Q/A if you'd like it.

Well, 2.

1) When placing your macro hatch in ZvT for a build like infestor ling, do you like it as part of a walloff at the front, or in your main? There are definite advantages to having it wall off, but I find that some times that wall is a liability later in the game with siege pushes/drops, ultras getting trapped (><) etc. Do you think the wallin is worth it? I see a lot of pros using it, but that doesn't make it gospel.

2) In ZvP on maps like ST or other maps that don't have an easily accessible third, how do you change your opening? Do you still go for 3hatch>gas anyway and leave the third in a far off position, or do something different? I always try going gas/pool into 2 base muta, but I get shut down a lot by people guessing I was doing that and going 2 star Phoenix or something.


I would also like to know about #1, or I guess macro hatch placement in all matchups, not just ZvT.
Danny Tanner
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
March 15 2012 17:11 GMT
#280
Mechanics episode?
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