EPTTSL claims Fnatic tampered with Alive, Fnatic denies - Pag…
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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:56 Fionn wrote: This is actually worse than EG. At least with EG, Puma had no contract and Lee sent Puma away to America. It could be called shady by EG, but it still wasn't breaching any contracts. If it's true that Lee let Fnatic into his team house, let them stay and practice there, and one of the members of Fnatic (translator, member, whatever) pretty much got Alive to leave, breaching his contract, then that's pretty bullshit and Lee should be pissed. It's like getting invited into someone's house and stealing their expensive television. Not cool. But this is all depends on if Lee is telling the truth/Fnatic is innocent, etc. This post sums up my feelings on this situation perfectly! I couldn't have worded it better! Thank you! | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:57 GuiltyJerk wrote: Probably not, and everyone's going to give Fnatic a lot of shit for "poaching" aLive despite there being no contract  Pretty sure Alive has a contract. After the Puma incident, there was a report that said Lee gave his core players a contract/salary. That would have to include Alive, Polt, Hyun, etc. | ||
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Sublimexx
Great Britain23 Posts
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
It seems that he may be right again here, after taking legal action! It may be that although Coach Lee is usually correct, he might not be a reasonable person, hence the conflict. Usually conflict is stemming from a reasonable situation and one or more unreasonable party. Usually conflict is not reasonable people responding to an unreasonable situation... | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:54 VirgilSC2 wrote: You clearly haven't seen anything I've posted about this. Rain left to live with his father in New York PuMa was poached by EG Clide respectfully approached Coach Lee about the move to SlayerS because of his friends in the SlayerS house. SangHo and JYP left/were removed after failing to adjust to the new training regimen at the TSL house. aLive was apparently poached (I had heard otherwise, this is news to me) and left the team house with his best friend who's name I won't reveal. with the exception of rain, all of those indicate some kind of discontent with TSL. a player who's happy with the team he's in doesn't just switch unless they're offered a shit ton of money (and if that's consistently the case with TSL then they're mismanaging their finances and/or sponsorships). | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote: Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . . Feel free to read my signature. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46263 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:55 Goibon wrote: I'm sick of all these foreign teams hurting ESPORTS. Do they just not give a shit? -_- You're already placing 100% of the blame on Fnatic? Wasn't it already established that the Puma acquisition didn't *hurt* e-sports, in that players should have contracts? If anything, the TSL coach recognized (or should have recognized- we'll hopefully see soon) that he has to know what his players are doing. Don't jump the gun on a verdict. | ||
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:58 Sublimexx wrote: Why would you leave TSL to join a sub par, half dead foreign team? ya there so dead they have only recruited toD, Rain, Moon, and now alive ya there so dead | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote: Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . . Revival - Code B/A tweener Heart - Really impressive Terran prospect Symbol - Interesting prospect Ultimate - Again, interesting prospect Cyrano - Another prospect They really only have one established guy in Polt. Hyun also may be really good, but we haven't seen a lot of him. | ||
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hyperknight
294 Posts
Either ways, TSL will get screwed if aLive leaves. IMO, the coach might be doing something wrong if all his players are the only ones leaving. The same stuff isnt happening with slayers/mvp/im etc. Also, I doubt fnatic would do something so dirty. This might be Coach lee's panic mode where he's preventing his top player from leaving the team. He's lost enough players anyways... | ||
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
Does that means his best friend that he left with wasn't on TSL at the time? This just makes me think ToD for some reason, lol. | ||
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Laxx
Australia61 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:58 Sublimexx wrote: Why would you leave TSL to join a sub par, half dead foreign team? You truly show your ignorance if you call Fnatic, one of the biggest and wealthiest eSports teams in the world, a "sub par, half dead" team. Their SC2 roster may have been lacking, but Fnatic is eSports legacy. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:59 rauk wrote: with the exception of rain, all of those indicate some kind of discontent with TSL. a player who's happy with the team he's in doesn't just switch unless they're offered a shit ton of money (and if that's consistently the case with TSL then they're mismanaging their finances and/or sponsorships). Well, PuMa and aLive were both offered "a shit ton of money" SangHo and JYP didn't like the new, stricter practice schedule Coach Lee was forming the team around Clide, I'm not sure if he was discontent in the house or not, but he apparently took the restructuring as a time to ask his leave. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:59 shindigs wrote: Can't wait until Fnatics statement, that's when things are gonna get really good. Haha, indeed! More sc2 drama! While it's all interesting, feel sorry for TSL  | ||
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hyperknight
294 Posts
Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature. | ||
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