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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
January 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#121
On January 18 2012 15:02 FXOpen wrote:
wOah.. Backing coach lee on this one.

I am almost 100% sure there is a contract.

But I don't blame fnatic. I blame Alive (Flame retardant jacket on) he should know better than to do this without a long long conversation with his current team.


Damn. That is really fucked up.
secret - never again
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#122
On January 18 2012 15:05 rUiNati0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:01 hyperknight wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote:
Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . .

Feel free to read my signature.


Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature.

When did Heart leave!?


On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.


Heart officially left TSL last night.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Sublimexx
Profile Joined December 2011
Great Britain23 Posts
January 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#123
Horrible move by Fnatic. Pretty sure there is a contract with aLive. Coach Lee Fighting!!**
"If you are a fan GREAT I want to hear that, if you aren't a fan why would I care that you say that specifically? In fact I care less..right?" - The always classy, iNcontroL
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:10:23
January 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#124
On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.

And someone said Polt was as good as out the door if Alive left too.

TSL

edit: apparently Polt stuff not true, nothing to see here
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
January 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#125
On January 18 2012 15:05 rUiNati0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:01 hyperknight wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote:
Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . .

Feel free to read my signature.


Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature.

When did Heart leave!?


Sometime back. He wasnt on contract with TSL and he didnt like the house or training conditions or something of that sort from what I've heard.
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
January 18 2012 06:08 GMT
#126
On January 18 2012 15:07 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:05 rUiNati0n wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:01 hyperknight wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote:
Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . .

Feel free to read my signature.


Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature.

When did Heart leave!?


Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.


Heart officially left TSL last night.


So Heart's been "recruited" by FNATIC too? Jesus...
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
hesho89
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada106 Posts
January 18 2012 06:08 GMT
#127
hmm... i just read the GSL preview about Alive being teamless, then string a badminton racquet and then i see this. kinda.. funny.

on topic, i really hope this gets straightened out.
eh?
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 06:08 GMT
#128
On January 18 2012 15:07 hyperknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:05 rUiNati0n wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:01 hyperknight wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote:
Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . .

Feel free to read my signature.


Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature.

When did Heart leave!?


Sometime back. He wasnt on contract with TSL and he didnt like the house or training conditions or something of that sort from what I've heard.

Heart was still on the team until as of last night.

However, he was living and training at home for the past month.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 18 2012 06:08 GMT
#129
On January 18 2012 15:06 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:04 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:01 hyperknight wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote:
Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . .

Feel free to read my signature.


Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature.


Source? I dunno about this.

Well, since someone else already posted it yes, Heart left TSL with his best friend aLive.

He is currently teamless.

What a pity... just made it to Code A and then he decides to leave? TSL is in such a shamble.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 06:09 GMT
#130
On January 18 2012 15:08 AxelTVx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:07 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:05 rUiNati0n wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:01 hyperknight wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:58 McFeser wrote:
Who does that leave on TSL? Polt, Hyun and . . .

Feel free to read my signature.


Ex-BW player Heart has already walked out of TSL btw. Might want to update your signature.

When did Heart leave!?


On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.


Heart officially left TSL last night.


So Heart's been "recruited" by FNATIC too? Jesus...

Heart is currently teamless.

On January 18 2012 15:07 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.

And someone said Polt was as good as out the door if Alive left too.

TSL

Polt currently has no intentions of leaving TSL, that person was mistaken.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
January 18 2012 06:09 GMT
#131
Why Heart, why! t_t
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:10:32
January 18 2012 06:09 GMT
#132
On January 18 2012 15:07 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.

And someone said Polt was as good as out the door if Alive left too.

TSL

That was a 100% a troll.

EDIT: 100%, since Virgil confirms it.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:15:08
January 18 2012 06:09 GMT
#133
I can see aLive going 0-4 this afternoon and soon disappearing without a trace. Thats what is happening with FD/Tester/Rain/Jyp/SangHo and Puma (forever Code B) to a lesser extent (Clide is another case)
I mean, thats what you get for leaving for cash and relaxing practice.
TSL is not doomed by any means
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
January 18 2012 06:10 GMT
#134
It looks like the translator in the question is sullyrabbit :O
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 18 2012 06:10 GMT
#135
Wow, Alive was the best on TSL for a LONG time no way he wasn't contracted.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 18 2012 06:10 GMT
#136
So I'm guessing that Fnatic didn't want to approach TSL about poaching their player because that might sever their partnership - but on the other hand they thought that it would be alright to take TSL's only code S player and continue a training partnership? Perhaps there is miscommunication here, but this seems malicous.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:17:15
January 18 2012 06:10 GMT
#137
Edit: After reading through everything, this whole scenario is fucked up and I feel bad about making a joke to begin with. I really like Coach Lee too, it upsets me to see his team get poached.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 18 2012 06:10 GMT
#138
Something is not right with TSL- i think we can all see that clearly if nothing else. Why do they keep losing top players? Is there something wrong with the team house, the way coach lee treats his players? Im truly wondering why people would leave a team that actually pays their players?
Long live the Boss Toss!
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 18 2012 06:11 GMT
#139
On January 18 2012 15:09 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:07 Goibon wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote:
If Heart seriously left, then TSL is literally down to Polt/Hyun since Heart was their third best player left.

I feel bad for Polt/Hyun. Both of them are so damn good.

And someone said Polt was as good as out the door if Alive left too.

TSL

That was a 100% a troll.

EDIT: 100%, since Virgil confirms it.

Ok cool, edited post.

I guess this day in age someone leaving a team comes across to me as more plausible than someone staying. I yearn for some stability.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
January 18 2012 06:11 GMT
#140
Soooo many players so concerned with these short term gains... Either they expect the sc2 industry to crash, or they're not thinking long term at all....
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