EPTAnd as someone pointed out this is going to make KR/Western relations a bit more tense and strained.
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phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
And as someone pointed out this is going to make KR/Western relations a bit more tense and strained. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
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m2e
United States108 Posts
i understand the korean way of doing business is different from the foreigner way and they believe that a verbal promise/agreement holds its value but when theres thousands of dollars to be made with a player you cant just shake their hand and make them promise they'll stay all the fault is on the TSL management at this point.... fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:11 phANT1m wrote: I wish could support TSL. Every quality player they create gets stolen by a big team. Wish they would for once get a break. And as someone pointed out this is going to make KR/Western relations a bit more tense and strained. It's made the relations so strained EG is now in a partnership with SlayerS. Oh yeah. TSL/Western relationships might be wrecked, though. EDIT: I wish people could read. THERE WAS A CONTRACT. IF YOU ARE BEING SUED FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT, THERE IS A CONTRACT. Jesus. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:01 VirgilSC2 wrote: Well, PuMa and aLive were both offered "a shit ton of money" SangHo and JYP didn't like the new, stricter practice schedule Coach Lee was forming the team around Clide, I'm not sure if he was discontent in the house or not, but he apparently took the restructuring as a time to ask his leave. so all of that, combined with heart leaving, plus the FD/tester fiasco, plus the fact that coach lee used to be an MBC coach (a team famous for getting their good players like bisu or julyzerg bought out because they stiffed their players hard on salary), doesn't seem to have the least bit to do with TSL's management? | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:11 m2e wrote: time for korean teams to realize that a handshake doesnt mean much when theres money to be made. they NEED to sign these players to contracts and thats that. i understand the korean way of doing business is different from the foreigner way and they believe that a verbal promise/agreement holds its value but when theres thousands of dollars to be made with a player you cant just shake their hand and make them promise they'll stay all the fault is on the TSL management at this point.... fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. Considering Coach Lee is talking about taking legal action for a breack of contract.... I'm assuming he did sign hs players to a contract.... | ||
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rdj107
United States336 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:11 Brett wrote: Soooo many players so concerned with these short term gains... Either they expect the sc2 industry to crash, or they're not thinking long term at all.... Or maybe alive just wasn't being payed, or like heart disliked the tsl house for some reason? | ||
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lethal111
Canada460 Posts
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FaZe
Canada472 Posts
I can't see a team like Fnatic just choosing to ignore the fact that he was contracted. EDIT : I would love to see a modern ESPORTS boilerplate contract. Anyone have any ideas of where I could find one?  | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:12 babylon wrote: It's made the relations so strained EG is now in a partnership with SlayerS. Oh yeah. TSL/Western relationships might be wrecked, though. EDIT: I wish people could read. THERE WAS A CONTRACT. IF YOU ARE BEING SUED FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT, THERE IS A CONTRACT. Jesus. Lol.. if EG takes a player from SlayerS, Jessica will make sure they don't leave Korea alive. | ||
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iSometric
2221 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:11 m2e wrote: time for korean teams to realize that a handshake doesnt mean much when theres money to be made. they NEED to sign these players to contracts and thats that. i understand the korean way of doing business is different from the foreigner way and they believe that a verbal promise/agreement holds its value but when theres thousands of dollars to be made with a player you cant just shake their hand and make them promise they'll stay all the fault is on the TSL management at this point.... fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. I think they did sign... | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:12 rauk wrote: so all of that, combined with heart leaving, plus the FD/tester fiasco, plus the fact that coach lee used to be an MBC coach (a team famous for getting their good players like bisu or julyzerg bought out because they stiffed their players hard on salary), doesn't seem to have the least bit to do with TSL's management? Coach =/= manager. | ||
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Zorkmid
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 18 2012 15:14 Bleak wrote: Coach Lee is like a children that whines because he lost his toys. If you are that concerned about losing your players, then manage your team better, sign contracts that don't let his happen for example. Have you read the thread Alive had a contract. Lee signed his top players (Polt, Alive, Hyun) to contracts following the Pumagate. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
can see legal action happening if Alive did infact breach contract | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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