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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it.
gosuRob
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States319 Posts
January 18 2012 05:47 GMT
#21
Damn, I feel bad for coach lee he's such a nice guy :d. GL HF TSL
Rules? There aren't many rules. You fight mean, you win mean. It takes a certain someone
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#22
Not this again...is there a legitimate problem (outside of moralistic issues) with approaching the player directly and not the team?
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#23
Dirty cash.
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#24
I feel like I've heard this one before lol
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#25
Wow.... Tsl has the worst luck...
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
Suddenly
Profile Joined January 2011
United States181 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#26
Wow...feel pretty bad for TSL.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#27
On January 18 2012 14:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Hey guys......I told you so.

I thought you said aLive's contract had been sold to Fnatic? If it's been sold, can Lee really sue aLive?
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 05:50:00
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#28
On January 18 2012 14:46 MementoMori wrote:
Considering this is the second time this has happened and that it seems to offend coach Lee so much, he should probably take some steps with his team to make sure this doesn't happen again. After a while being offended doesn't really count for much.

Well if he is considering a lawsuit it means Alive must have signed a contract, that was not the case with Puma. So it would appear he did take steps to stop this kind of thing, assuming there is a contract. If there was one then Fanatic should have had to buy it out, and would HAVE to deal with TSL. That or e-sports contracts are essentially worthless, so Fanatic just said fuck it.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#29
On January 18 2012 14:47 rauk wrote:
how on earth can TSL be this badly mismanaged that they keep losing players like this so consistently

Can you really blame Coach Lee? He lets Fnatic into his team house, they begin to work on a partnership, and then Fnatic takes aLive?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#30
$$ makes the world go round. Hope this gets settled.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#31
On January 18 2012 14:47 Nethermind wrote:
Bummer, bad news on the KR/Western relations front. =(

I wonder what his contract status was at the time he signed with Fnatic.

more like tsl/western relations
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kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#32
On January 18 2012 14:48 Kennigit wrote:
Dirty cash.

Yeah, he should have joined SlayerS instead.
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#33
WTF happened; I thought they had this figured out!?
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#34
I hope this is just as hilarious as last time.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#35
On January 18 2012 14:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
Wow this keeps happening to TSL lol T_T;;
on another note.. ALIVE IS SO GOOD @.@ if this happened fnatic would be unstoppable :O


fnatic needed your replacement obv.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#36
Oh god not again... sounds like there was a contract this time though? Hard to really judge anything like this initially have to wait for more details.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#37
On January 18 2012 14:48 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Hey guys......I told you so.

I thought you said aLive's contract had been sold to Fnatic? If it's been sold, can Lee really sue aLive?

I had heard that Coach Lee kicked aLive out of the team house and that aLive was on Fnatic now.
A separate source told me the contract was sold, that appears not to be the case.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Jarrito
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#38
And I just bought the TSL shirt from thehandsomenerd.com to support them, and mainly Alive...real lame.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#39
On January 18 2012 14:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:47 rauk wrote:
how on earth can TSL be this badly mismanaged that they keep losing players like this so consistently

Can you really blame Coach Lee? He lets Fnatic into his team house, they begin to work on a partnership, and then Fnatic takes aLive?


if all these players (rain, puma, clide, sangho, alive, etc) are so eager to jump ship from TSL clearly coach lee is doing something wrong
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 18 2012 05:50 GMT
#40
wow.... TSL is in it again...
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