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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it.
Sublimexx
Profile Joined December 2011
Great Britain23 Posts
January 18 2012 05:51 GMT
#41
gogo coach Lee!
"If you are a fan GREAT I want to hear that, if you aren't a fan why would I care that you say that specifically? In fact I care less..right?" - The always classy, iNcontroL
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
January 18 2012 05:51 GMT
#42
And now to wait until the drama settles and see what the actual story is about.

Really need more drama involving TSL and foreign teams..
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
January 18 2012 05:51 GMT
#43
On January 18 2012 14:48 Kennigit wrote:
Dirty cash.

does TL and Fnatic not have good relationships?
JD, need I say more? :D
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
January 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#44
Wow i really like TSL i feel bad for them cuz the coach is soo good and nice...Plus the team is awesome also...they just seem to trust the wrong people -_-
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45363 Posts
January 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#45
On January 18 2012 14:47 gosuRob wrote:
Damn, I feel bad for coach lee he's such a nice guy :d. GL HF TSL


Definitely nice, but equally naive.

Waiting for all the facts to surface so we can see exactly what's going on. Hopefully it's completely legal like Puma was and just comes down to pride...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#46
cant wait for a few hours from now for official statements from both sides and then we decide who we believe lol
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oddsprout
Profile Joined October 2009
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 05:53:32
January 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#47
oh TSL poor coach man must feel helpless

also waxangel post 9000...
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#48
How can alive leave the team without notice- I remember coach lee saying he contracted ALL his players after puma left, so if he does sue alive- Alive is gonna get in serious legal trouble.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
January 18 2012 05:53 GMT
#49
It's either TSL's the most unlucky team in the world, or TSL's one of the most mismanaged teams right now. Either way, I can't really see how TSL can continue to be competitive by constantly losing key players left and right.
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
January 18 2012 05:53 GMT
#50
"Fnatic is denying responsibility by saying it's something the translator did on his [or her] own, but that's nonsense." How is it nonsense though, it's possible they were just talking casually then the opportunity arose for alive to get more money.

I guess it all comes down to what the contract says I suppose
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 18 2012 05:53 GMT
#51
On January 18 2012 14:50 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:47 rauk wrote:
how on earth can TSL be this badly mismanaged that they keep losing players like this so consistently

Can you really blame Coach Lee? He lets Fnatic into his team house, they begin to work on a partnership, and then Fnatic takes aLive?


if all these players (rain, puma, clide, sangho, alive, etc) are so eager to jump ship from TSL clearly coach lee is doing something wrong

Rain had talked to Lee first before leaving and received his consent.

SangHo and Clide were vehemently on Lee's side when Puma left. They only left recently because they didn't see themselves fitting into Lee's restructuring plans.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 18 2012 05:53 GMT
#52
Drama incoming...

Legal measures? Sweet mother of mercy...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#53
On January 18 2012 14:50 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:48 babylon wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Hey guys......I told you so.

I thought you said aLive's contract had been sold to Fnatic? If it's been sold, can Lee really sue aLive?

I had heard that Coach Lee kicked aLive out of the team house and that aLive was on Fnatic now.
A separate source told me the contract was sold, that appears not to be the case.

Ah, okay. I see, I see.

Well, only thing left to do is wait for official statements and the endless legal debates about those statements by TL lawyers ...
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 05:56:31
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#54
I don't mind Koreans on foreign teams but it is getting a little out of hand now.

Also I TSL stricter structure was definitely doing Alive some good, wonder where he will end up staying now and how it will affect his future GSL performance. Definitely will not be good for his mindset going into tonight's games.

Also after the whole Puma thing why did Fnatic not do all that they could to prevent any drama coming out of this? I know we are left with only a tiny bit of info at this time but it seems extreme irresponsible for them to allow a transaction like this to happen in this way. Teams cannot keep operating like this.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#55
Again?

Sigh.....
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#56
gogo eSports drama! virgin drama of 2012!
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#57
Whoa deja vu.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#58
On January 18 2012 14:50 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:49 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:47 rauk wrote:
how on earth can TSL be this badly mismanaged that they keep losing players like this so consistently

Can you really blame Coach Lee? He lets Fnatic into his team house, they begin to work on a partnership, and then Fnatic takes aLive?


if all these players (rain, puma, clide, sangho, alive, etc) are so eager to jump ship from TSL clearly coach lee is doing something wrong

You clearly haven't seen anything I've posted about this.
Rain left to live with his father in New York
PuMa was poached by EG
Clide respectfully approached Coach Lee about the move to SlayerS because of his friends in the SlayerS house.
SangHo and JYP left/were removed after failing to adjust to the new training regimen at the TSL house.
aLive was apparently poached (I had heard otherwise, this is news to me) and left the team house with his best friend who's name I won't reveal.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#59
Fnatic just lost a fan in me if these allegations are true....

Almost becoming partners then stealing a player and backing out last second? thats just fucking dirty.....
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Colonial
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#60
Sigh. Everyone is taking advantage of TSL. TSL finds amazing players and everyone snatches em away lol. TSL should just merge with a foreigner team to avoid this. Dunno why Fnatic didnt just buy out TSL and acquire their whole lineup....
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