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Discussing the controversy and stating your opinions in a constructive way is fine, but there will be bans for any player/organization bashing without anything to substantiate it.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
January 18 2012 07:42 GMT
#341
This is all so confusing, I believe ToD, but i dont see why the TSL coach would lie
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
ToD
Profile Joined December 2008
France222 Posts
January 18 2012 07:44 GMT
#342
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html
Commentator
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:46:44
January 18 2012 07:46 GMT
#343
On January 18 2012 16:44 ToD wrote:
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

So are Heart and Alive making their own team?

edit: Great to see a relatively fast response by Fnatic
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:47:10
January 18 2012 07:46 GMT
#344
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

EDIT: ToD beat me to it
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 07:47 GMT
#345
On January 18 2012 16:44 ToD wrote:
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

This certainly puts an interesting twist on things.

I'm inclined to believe it somewhat at this point, seeing as most of my information came from close to TSL and could therefore be biased, however this sounds like a much larger problem than a misunderstanding.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 18 2012 07:48 GMT
#346
so alive is still on TSL? im confused...
Long live the Boss Toss!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#347
aLive has departed from TSL of his own accord and is now teamless ... is what I got.
ToD
Profile Joined December 2008
France222 Posts
January 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#348
i'll probably write a blog about my pov on things that happened in a few days.
Commentator
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
January 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#349
okay Coach Lee! it is now your turn to speak again!
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
January 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#350
On January 18 2012 16:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:44 ToD wrote:
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

This certainly puts an interesting twist on things.

I'm inclined to believe it somewhat at this point, seeing as most of my information came from close to TSL and could therefore be biased, however this sounds like a much larger problem than a misunderstanding.



Crow tastes pretty good, huh?
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#351
it's better if...

SlayerS.Alive + SlayerS.Heart
why not?
SlayerS sure love Terran hahaha

dam 2012 is a good year for Sc2 Drama
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
January 18 2012 07:50 GMT
#352
On January 18 2012 16:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:44 ToD wrote:
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

This certainly puts an interesting twist on things.

I'm inclined to believe it somewhat at this point, seeing as most of my information came from close to TSL and could therefore be biased, however this sounds like a much larger problem than a misunderstanding.


In terms of TSL's future this seems to indicate a larger problem than if aLive was just poached. I'm also curious if aLive is pursuing Fnatic.
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 18 2012 07:51 GMT
#353
On January 18 2012 16:48 mrRoflpwn wrote:
so alive is still on TSL? im confused...


Yeah, Coach Lee is wigging the fuck out for not much of a reason I am afraid.

Fnatic says they havent contracted Alive yet since he has a TSL contract and they are honoring this.
twitch.tv/medrea
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 18 2012 07:51 GMT
#354
Well this is getting messier and messier =/


On January 18 2012 16:49 ToD wrote:
i'll probably write a blog about my pov on things that happened in a few days.


That would be really cool.
aka ilovesharkpeople
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9108 Posts
January 18 2012 07:52 GMT
#355
From just reading the original OP and the current one with the Fnatic response it seems as though Coach Lee might be mad that those talks about Fnatic sponsoring the house didn't work out. It almost seems like Coach Lee is making things up to try and make Fnatic look like they were doing something sneaky.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 07:52 GMT
#356
On January 18 2012 16:49 lavit2099 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 16:44 ToD wrote:
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

This certainly puts an interesting twist on things.

I'm inclined to believe it somewhat at this point, seeing as most of my information came from close to TSL and could therefore be biased, however this sounds like a much larger problem than a misunderstanding.



Crow tastes pretty good, huh?

I don't see your point, it's not like Fnatics article clears any of this up at all, it simply states their side of the story. I'm still more inclined to still believe the TSL side of this over the Fnatic. However, I have noticed that you seem to have some problem with me.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:54:19
January 18 2012 07:53 GMT
#357
On January 18 2012 16:26 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:21 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 18 2012 16:12 Wolf wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:57 Qaatar wrote:
On January 18 2012 15:52 Wolf wrote:
I talked to Lee in person about this a few times. I can't believe people think this is because TSL is 'mismanaged'. That's actually so crazy, even with the rumours that have arisen.


So the stuff that Rekrul says, like:
On August 14 2011 15:37 Rekrul wrote:

P.s. fuck oops lee still.


or:
On August 05 2011 04:59 Rekrul wrote:
Even after he originally stole FD and Tester and everyone kinda just let it go and didn't make a big deal about it for the greater good of the growth of SC2 in Korea, Coach Lee was notorious for doing things like going ape shit bitching about very minuscule things such as how many players/which players can get to sit in the team area during matches, which left other coaches and GomTV staff wondering "what the fuck is wrong with this guy?"


or:
On July 22 2011 19:41 Rekrul wrote:
Coach Lee is a hypocrite and a liar. The way he stole Fruitdealer and Tester from OGS in the past was far worse in terms of deceit, lack of business ethics, and backstabbing.

It's not my place to go into details, but all I can say is: Karma is a bitch.



That's all hearsay? I mean, I've followed Mama Bear since MBC, and always liked him, but there has to be more shit going on behind the scenes.


It's MUCH more complicated than Rekrul summed up. Of course 'shit goes on' behind the scenes, but no one who is posting in this thread knows about it.

You'd be surprised what some of us "posting in this thread" know Wolf


Please don't act like you know whats going Virgil. You have a few unreliable sources and nothing to do with TSL..


Dont go there. You venture into the deep, dark depths of Virgil's Sc2 vice...


Btw, Alive was under contract, so unless Coach Lee is trolling us (very unlikely) then there is really very little chance that TSL is in the wrong here.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
January 18 2012 07:53 GMT
#358
Looks like Fnatic wins the drama.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 18 2012 07:53 GMT
#359
Thank you for the quick response Fnatic. Bonus points in my book.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:55:26
January 18 2012 07:54 GMT
#360
On January 18 2012 16:47 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 16:44 ToD wrote:
http://www.fnatic.com/news/9475/Fnatic-s-stance-on-aLive-amp-TSL.html

This certainly puts an interesting twist on things.

I'm inclined to believe it somewhat at this point, seeing as most of my information came from close to TSL and could therefore be biased, however this sounds like a much larger problem than a misunderstanding.


All that article says to me is that Lee jumped the gun. Negotiations were on going but Coach Lee cried out to media after alive left..

The truth will come out somehow.. but will it be that fnatic did in fact poach alive OR coach lee mishandled the situations with alive and heart and they decided to leave seperate from fnatic.


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