The purpose of this thread is to relate your experiences with using (not abusing) prescription medications while playing starcraft. Abuse of medications as well as use of illicit substances can also be covered, but please no dark stories -- just stick to how it affects your gaming. Thanks!
Keep in mind, also, this is in no way a thread meant to pinpoint ways to use drugs to your advantage in gaming. This is simply for swapping stories about what weird/unexpected stuff it does to you while you're playing.
Personally, I take ambien at night to sleep, but often I still have to stay up a little bit before becoming tired. I find I'm extremely clear-headed when I ladder. My goals for winning are very straightforward and easy to execute, but at a slow pace. I tend to constantly messup my hotkey bindings due to my fingers being less nimble. But overall, I feel like I win games I might not have before -- and lose some I probably would've won. It's a strange feeling. ___________________________________________________________________
One time I got really ''dopey'' off of ''oregeno'' and played an entire game thinking it was a ZvZ when in reality it was a ZvT and by the 15 minute mark I had 30 droines and 10lings against his 200/200 army.. Never again T_T
I found that smoking weed when I got hella raged at ladder would make me instantly be like fine/interested in playing more sc2. Spammed a lot of games that way, it was seriously pretty hax. Still is, although overall I do play better when I'm sober or caffeinated...
I loathe playing starcraft on adderall, I tried it once over a year ago and it made me feel so mentally mindblown/fatigued/sleepy/uncomfortable for hours afterward. Adderall in general is not that good for me though I think.
SC2 on caffeine can be an awesome experience. It really psychs your confidence and alertness up, makes you feel very attuned to the game and your music is probably going to be slightly faster BPM than it would be otherwise (or some gangsta rap shit~)
SC2 while drunk is completely doable if you're playing purely "for fun" purposes. Obviously it gives nothing but disadvantages, but it also gives a "care less" attitude if that's what you're striving for. Additionally,
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edit: k so, alcohol sc2 can really prove to you how good you are because you rely a lot more on muscle memory and how comfortable you are with the game. I'm mid master basically and I can wreck any diamond while fairly buzzed and probably beat low masters as long as they didn't do anything too fucking meta (you sort of play more mechanically/thoughtless on alcohol).
This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
Never had decent prescription medication in my adult life Usually I sip coffee / energy drink and pull green between my ladder games or while searching for game. Obviously my favorite way of playing. Overall I don't really play without that formula since I start raging (at my own fails)
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
There are many threads about Drinking Games in the sc2 general forum. Those should be moved to blogs as well?
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
There are many threads about Drinking Games in the sc2 general forum. Those should be moved to blogs as well?
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
I don't think there's anything inherently inappropriate about discussing use of different substances responsibly, especially considering there's probably a bigger population than you think (moreso if you include caffeine).
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
Hilariously inappropriate comment from closeminded person, likely who has either had no experience with substances, or one scarring one. Nobody's making you read, dude.. And there's nothing dirty/shameful about responsible drug use, whether it be something you're prescribed, caffeine, alcohol, nicotene, or any other substance you can imagine, provided it doesn't cause significant harm to your body or your lifestyle.
Caffeine is a drug and it's one I enjoy thoroughly. Nothing starts off a good starcraft 2 session like a pot of black coffee..except a nice fat joint to go along with it. I find this the most effective way to play; The coffee keeps me thinking and playing fast, the weed keeps me relaxed and helps stop me from panicing/raging. These are two things I would do even if I weren't playing starcraft, But i do find it hard to maintain composure if I'm playing starcraft and I have neither of them. But I think that can be said for anyone who drinks coffee regularly, you sorta turn into a zombie if you don't have it.
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
There are many threads about Drinking Games in the sc2 general forum. Those should be moved to blogs as well?
Is that a serious question? In my opinion, yes.
It sounds to me as though the OP really is concerned with how medications might alter gameplay which i believe is a valid discussion in this forum.
Unfortunately i cant add much to the topic at had however i find that caffine helps improve my game sense and focus considerably.
I personally always play better with some coffee in me; that's actually true of pretty much everything I do, better with coffee. To that end I make it a rule not to allow myself any addiction to it, because if you have caffeine too regularly your body chemistry adapts to it and it no longer provides a boost, instead only bringing you to "normal" energy levels.
Irregular times and doses help keep it nice and influencing over my body chemistry, and when I'm on it, you should see my fingers fly :D
Nothing more "affecting" to share because, and I'm totally willing to be frank with this, smoking of any kind and mind-altering drug use (as opposed to the energy-altering effects of caffeine) disgust me in very much the same way that spiders, unnaturally moldy foods and the like disgust me. Don't want anything to do with that! Call me "closed-minded" but I'm very happy with my world just the way it is, thank you very much.
did mushrooms once, thought sc2 would be a good idea, played 2v2 with my friend and mothership rushed, right before the big fight happened i freaked out and left and got off my pc and freaked out for the rest of the night LOL.
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
Considering how long the High Thread has lasted in general chat, this is probably okay.
I've played Starcraft once drunk, once high. The time I played high I don't really remember, but I watched the replay the next day and I was typing a bunch of junk that literally made 0 sense. When I played high I was in a 1v1 obs game and actually played pretty well :D although I was under very little influence.
My micro, apm, and reaction time improve when I've had some coffee but too much caffeine is important to avoid as it gives you the jitters.
I believe alcohol and painkillers shouldn't improve anyone's play except in cases where it cures enough anxiety that makes the impaired speed, decision making, and reaction time worthwhile.
Honestly I've wondered if any of the pro sc2 scene has a performance enhancing drug issue similar to pro sports like baseball and such but generally I believe it is unlikely to be a widespread issue.
I have taken Concerta for the past 9 years or so of my life. It's an ADD medication. Also I had 2 rockstars.
This is how I was able to play 74 1v1s today. School ended early at 9:40 and Concerta seriously hinders my appetite, so I took no breaks to eat. It wore off about an hour ago but I was on a winning streak so I kept playing. I just now exited sc2, gonna try and see if I can play 26 more to make it so that I played 100 1v1s today :D
On January 14 2012 15:07 Peanutbutter717 wrote: I have taken Concerta for the past 9 years or so of my life. It's an ADD medication. Also I had 2 rockstars.
This is how I was able to play 74 1v1s today. School ended early at 9:40 and Concerta seriously hinders my appetite, so I took no breaks to eat. It wore off about an hour ago but I was on a winning streak so I kept playing. I just now exited sc2, gonna try and see if I can play 26 more to make it so that I played 100 1v1s today :D
Dude that's insane lol. At night time I like to drink while playing....however I can always tell when I hit that point where I'm not performing up to my normal standards and will switch to team games. But a few drinks doesn't make a big difference
Someone who isn't me once blew several hydro's and proceeded to drop 20-bombs playing counter-strike. He feels as though a relaxed state of mind is the best thing for any gamer.
Well I don't have anything against people taking medication/drugs, I would advise you to be careful. Adderall (prescribed by a psychiatrist I might add) ruined about a year of my life because of how antisocial it caused me to behave. Later I found about 250 mg of caffeine a day helped me sufficiently with attention with little to no negative side effects. During the period of time I was on adderall (40 mg a day) I played a lot of WC3 and was consistently among the top 50 US players, so it definitely helped my performance, but unless you want to make a career of it I would advise against that path. In the end after dropping the medication I returned to college and finished my engineering degree.
I remember getting drunk and playing Starcraft during the beta last summer, the night the Chicago Bulls signed Carlos Boozer. I kept telling everyone at the start of the game I was "BOOZING FOR BOOZER" and one game I tried fast expanding at the gold base on Scrap Station as Zerg. That didn't work out for me.
Alcohol: Yes can play up to a certain point, quite good in early stages of drinking, then slowly start to deteriorate after the 12 beer mark Weed: Great starter for session, good to smoke one bowl every 2-3 hours of a hardcore session, calms you down. Halucinogens: Forget it. Just forget it. You may THINK it would be cool but honestly your mind drifts to other places very fast. Alcohol and weed: My usual vice......let's just say I'm high plat and have a 65% ish percent win rate whilst using. Gotta stop playing once things get blurry. Methamphetamine: Brilliant for Starcraft. Makes me feel Korean. Though you can't do this shit too much, stuff will make an addict outta the dalai lama. Cocaine: Almost as good as Meth, but again cant do it much, Ecstacy: Pretty damn good in the late stages of a trip, not when peaking as usually you're too scattered/lovey/on the floor rubbing your face on the carpet. Excellent at late stages when combined with two bowls of weed and three shots of jaegemeister. Prescriptions uppers: Quite damn good, specially Dextramphetamines. Also diet pills. Great or concentraction and weight loss Caffeine: Not as good as meth Heroin: I dont' know, never done it....but cant imagine it's good for SC
I am a high Plat player who responsibly uses and experiments with various substances while playing SC. I feel it is a great challenge to force my brain to work while under the influence. When I am seriously laddering seriously however, I excercise before hand and try to eat something Asian. Then have exactly two smalls puffs of a bowl and about 3-4 full strength beers as the day progresses. Served me ok so far
On January 14 2012 15:45 Neptuneajax wrote: Halucinogens: Forget it. Just forget it. You may THINK it would be cool but honestly your mind drifts to other places very fast.
Agree with this 100%, did some shrooms and partway through the night I thought I'd give SC a try with my new-found creativity. Sometime, not long after I dropped my spawning pool in game 1, I completely lost interest and went to do something else. Came back a few hours later to the Defeat menu.
I play sometimes after a few drinks, but it usually turns into a session of experimenting with all sorts of all-in timings, usually resulting in a long losing streak til I win one and call it a night.
Also have Tylenol 3s on hand for my migraines, and after a couple of those (assuming I've taken them in time to stop the migraine) the sense of calm from the codeine results in a really enjoyable gaming experience. Win or lose, I seem to keep a clear head and just keep focused on the games.
As far as my "session routine" goes... I think that smoking a little bit of weed helps me remain focused and gets me into the groove for a long gaming session, just 3 or 4 hits off a small J to start the night, followed by a couple of cups of coffee (spaced out over an hour or two) keeps me going for quite a long time.
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
I don't personally do any drugs, prescription or non prescription, but I once played a 2v2 with a buddy who was smoking weed at the time and we lost because all he would do was move his units around and zoom in on them and pan the camera around and laugh lol. Never again will I play 2v2s with him while he is high haha.
played 4v4 on acid once. everything was so pretty and the sounds blew my mind. needless to say, i didn't do very well. kept getting raged at by teammates and i wasn't willing to fuck up my 1v1.
then i thought it was a good idea to play amnesia. i dare anyone with balls to try it.
other than that i often play with a bottle of Jack Daniels nearby. i play better but the trick is to not get wasted, only mellow.
I've also played once on the pain pills that i had left over from having my appendix removed. dont know what that shit was but i played better than I've ever played on that shit. i wouldn't mind getting hold of more. too bad we only have one!
drugs make me useless apm spam more than usual because i think i'm doing things but i'll select queens multiple times and just not inject or creep spread ever. it's fun to watch the replays later on...
Don't have any good experiences with drugs and starcraft. Only played starcraft while drunk and high on weed and both just make you slow and forgetful,
On January 14 2012 16:14 gregnog wrote: I pretty much only play stoned. I am kinda surprised that I am usually top 100 4v4
i guess the reason could be that no one actually plays 4v4 ^^
My story is alcohol, if im smashed and play a game of starcraft it feels so strange.... like the game feels very very fast and only after what i think is like 20-30 seconds it is 5-6 minutes into the game which is really weird......
but... coffee is definently the best drug by far!!!! keeps me powerd throughout the day!!!
Alcohol makes me play really bad, but I don't drink a lot so after a few bears I'm already really drunk. Messing around in team games works fine on weed, 1 v 1 becomes kinda horrible though.
On January 14 2012 15:45 Neptuneajax wrote: Alcohol: Yes can play up to a certain point, quite good in early stages of drinking, then slowly start to deteriorate after the 12 beer mark Weed: Great starter for session, good to smoke one bowl every 2-3 hours of a hardcore session, calms you down. Halucinogens: Forget it. Just forget it. You may THINK it would be cool but honestly your mind drifts to other places very fast. Alcohol and weed: My usual vice......let's just say I'm high plat and have a 65% ish percent win rate whilst using. Gotta stop playing once things get blurry. Methamphetamine: Brilliant for Starcraft. Makes me feel Korean. Though you can't do this shit too much, stuff will make an addict outta the dalai lama. Cocaine: Almost as good as Meth, but again cant do it much, Ecstacy: Pretty damn good in the late stages of a trip, not when peaking as usually you're too scattered/lovey/on the floor rubbing your face on the carpet. Excellent at late stages when combined with two bowls of weed and three shots of jaegemeister. Prescriptions uppers: Quite damn good, specially Dextramphetamines. Also diet pills. Great or concentraction and weight loss Caffeine: Not as good as meth Heroin: I dont' know, never done it....but cant imagine it's good for SC
I am a high Plat player who responsibly uses and experiments with various substances while playing SC. I feel it is a great challenge to force my brain to work while under the influence. When I am seriously laddering seriously however, I excercise before hand and try to eat something Asian. Then have exactly two smalls puffs of a bowl and about 3-4 full strength beers as the day progresses. Served me ok so far
I don't think there is a responsible way to use cocaine or meth Enjoy looking like Lindsay Lohan though dude
Well, after a few shots of vodka (the good shit, Russian Standard, not stolichnaya or smirnoff)...I can finally get out of bed, and after about half a handle then I can start getting into the groove of my macro and micro, and after I've polished off a few bottles my skill at ladder is unsurpassed. This, my friends, is the only way to go if you want to get good.
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
Why? Didn't you know? Drugs are only cool and awesome if everyone else knows you're using them.
Personally am on adderall for adhd or whatever. It does help me focus etc as I tend to be distracted easily. I probably play a little better overall but I wouldnt say its an amazing gain, could probably get the same if I drank coffee or something.
Ive played drunk a few times but only did 4v4 and just did stupid crap that ended up working anyway. Somewhat sloppy play.
Played stoned a few times as well (stopped smoking since my old roommate moved out) It does make me a little slower, but Im def a lot calmer and less panicky. Also made everything feel a lot more fluid and flowing. Also had no anxiety(sp) about doing 1v1 ladder, das evil find match button.
On January 14 2012 14:17 Fallians wrote: One time I got really ''dopey'' off of ''oregeno'' and played an entire game thinking it was a ZvZ when in reality it was a ZvT and by the 15 minute mark I had 30 droines and 10lings against his 200/200 army.. Never again T_T
I'm sorry bro but you clearly have never smoked weed in your life.
On topic:
Weed: Definite handicap. Much slower, misclicking all the time, all-inning almost every game, going for the easy victory... I smoked dope for the first 9 months playing this game, and it defs held me back.
Alcohol: Probably makes you better up until the 8th beer, after that point you get sluggish and silly and the game gets insanely hard.
Heroine: Slow, but methodical and deliberate. Hindered skill a tiny bit but not as much as you'd expect. Only real effect is a lowered APM.
Caffeine: Coffee can help you have an insane couple games right off the bat, but you crash shortly after. Personally, I prefer tea as it gives you a small but steady buzz that keeps you going, without an abrupt crash.
took adderall once and I had 300 apm and 20 wins in a row, was pretty sick. I wonder what would happen if a pro tried it..Maybe it would make them unbeatable, or maybe it wouldnt do anything since these guys are like naturally speeded 24/7
I am probably one of the biggest pot-heads on TL. My mantra through college has been get high everyday allday. (dont worry graduating with a 3.6). I am totally functional when blitzed, whether it's socializing, doing school work, or accomplishing other tasks and duties, I only enjoy it more because I'm high.
SC2 is another story though. When I have been playing a lot, the pot definitely helps me hit "the zone" i set into rhythms and macro like a boss, micro could be better but in the Diamond/Platinum levels where I am, macro is way more important. However, If I have taken some time off, even as little as a few days, and come back to play SC2 cold while I'm high, things are sloppy as hell. Although the weed keeps me from raging, I definitely am not happy with the slow and messy play I get from being high and rusty at the same time.
On January 14 2012 14:17 Fallians wrote: One time I got really ''dopey'' off of ''oregeno'' and played an entire game thinking it was a ZvZ when in reality it was a ZvT and by the 15 minute mark I had 30 droines and 10lings against his 200/200 army.. Never again T_T
I'm sorry bro but you clearly have never smoked weed in your life.
On topic:
Weed: Definite handicap. Much slower, misclicking all the time, all-inning almost every game, going for the easy victory... I smoked dope for the first 9 months playing this game, and it defs held me back.
Alcohol: Probably makes you better up until the 8th beer, after that point you get sluggish and silly and the game gets insanely hard.
Heroine: Slow, but methodical and deliberate. Hindered skill a tiny bit but not as much as you'd expect. Only real effect is a lowered APM.
Caffeine: Coffee can help you have an insane couple games right off the bat, but you crash shortly after. Personally, I prefer tea as it gives you a small but steady buzz that keeps you going, without an abrupt crash.
Only thing I have to say about this is when I'm playing high,I have really neat and clean in base building placement for some reason. When I'm sober I don't give a shit and drop my gateways in the nearest psy.
I don't get it. Any drug that would really work ( meth, cocaine ) is just bad stuff. All drugs that are awesome are drugs that I would not use playing SC2 ( MDMA, shrooms, LSD )
I used to play when drunk with some friends in team games and hero attack. It was pretty much what we did on slow weekends at school and it was fantastic. I don't drink anymore, but when I did I was the best of the three of us at playing drunk :D
On January 14 2012 19:18 Tommie wrote: I don't get it. Any drug that would really work ( meth, cocaine ) is just bad stuff. All drugs that are awesome are drugs that I would not use playing SC2 ( MDMA, shrooms, LSD )
Was wondering about it too.. I get the potheads but why play sc2 on MDMA,LSD, etc. is beyond me..
On January 14 2012 19:18 Tommie wrote: I don't get it. Any drug that would really work ( meth, cocaine ) is just bad stuff. All drugs that are awesome are drugs that I would not use playing SC2 ( MDMA, shrooms, LSD )
I wouldn't use them either for SC2 since you can have much more fun doing other stuff^^ but I'm not so sure if MDMA might not have a positive influence. Of course I could be wrong though since I never tried it with sc2
I remember some years ago when I played CS 1.6. I smoked some weed with friends at the end of the afternoon, we didn't smoked very much, I can't sadly remember the quantity, and that is a shame... because when I was back to my place, I played CS a bit. And it was very awesome and surprising : I was so accurate, so fast (yeah, veryyyy weird), I guessed correctly all the brain game. For like 2 hours straight, I pwn n00bs in servers, then we played a war with my team and I simply ruled this too. And the next day it was back to normal.
Also, I tried to play step mania (keyboard !) completely drunk. It was awesome for 30 seconds, then I got mad and smashed my keyboard because I could not even finish a heavy 9-feet song (at that time I could AA some 14 feet in challenge, keyboard special) and I felt like I was stupid. Luckily I didn't break it
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
There are many threads about Drinking Games in the sc2 general forum. Those should be moved to blogs as well?
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
There are many threads about Drinking Games in the sc2 general forum. Those should be moved to blogs as well?
alcohol isnt illegal..
One could argue that weed is legal in some country .. :p Only done sc2 while drunk. But it was 4n4 with friends so it was very funny ahaha
From what I remember it would surely deal with my anxiety as for me it's just a load of positive attitude :D. I'm not sure about level of skill per se, though. Either way, I think we have a solution for ladder anxiety! x)
As for me, I’m used to drinking tee so there is no particular effect, I drink coffee very rarely and I think the crash is just too inconvenient. Alcohol can be strange, it can make me really sleepy, but I noticed something stronger such as slivovitz (plumb brandy) can make me less anxious.
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
There are many threads about Drinking Games in the sc2 general forum. Those should be moved to blogs as well?
alcohol isnt illegal..
.. and it's proven that it's more harmful than weed, LSD, MDMA and lots of other drugs. so what exactly is your point?
and: what is legal or illegal depends on your country.
I only tested once playing after having taken an energy drink, and it didn't change a damn thing :/. I'd like to test playing after taking coffee and having slept properly (since I guess if you didn't sleep enough and take coffee you are like "normal", as if you had enough sleep) but I don't think that it will change that much. Energy drinks made me play faster in fighting games but not in sc2, which is kind of weird
From what I remember it would surely deal with my anxiety as for me it's just a load of positive attitude :D. I'm not sure about level of skill per se, though. Either way, I think we have a solution for ladder anxiety! x)
As for me, I’m used to drinking tee so there is no particular effect, I drink coffee very rarely and I think the crash is just too inconvenient. Alcohol can be strange, it can make me really sleepy, but I noticed something stronger such as slivovitz (plumb brandy) can make me less anxious.
Tea can contain as much or more caffeine than coffee does, for the record.
I've got some pretty bad ladder anxiety, so I used to play 2v2s with a friend a lot. I could not stand playing sober, I felt I was playing under my potential, so we'd always be drinking while we played. I felt far more relaxed, and thanks to the amount I drank with him my alcohol tolerance was high enough that we could go through 6 beers in the course of a night of SC2 (before stopping to drink for the rest of the night) and I'd be playing better near the end than I was in the beginning, except once I hit the point where the alcohol started making my play legitimately worse. Once that happened, it was time to start drinking hardcore.
From what I remember it would surely deal with my anxiety as for me it's just a load of positive attitude :D. I'm not sure about level of skill per se, though. Either way, I think we have a solution for ladder anxiety! x)
As for me, I’m used to drinking tee so there is no particular effect, I drink coffee very rarely and I think the crash is just too inconvenient. Alcohol can be strange, it can make me really sleepy, but I noticed something stronger such as slivovitz (plumb brandy) can make me less anxious.
Tea can contain as much or more caffeine than coffee does, for the record.
On January 14 2012 22:42 Equity213 wrote: Smoke weed: move down a league Do cocaine: move up a league
But drugs are bad, mmkay?
Pretty much this.
And you should ask pros about this. They'll never talk though. But some of them seems definitely not "natural" when you see them in the booths.
I hardly think pro players are on cocaine, but it wouldn't shock me if some use adderal since nobody really (unfortunately) cares about drug use in tournaments at the moment
On January 14 2012 22:40 Poopi wrote: I only test once playing after having taken an energy drink, and it didn't change a damn thing :/. I'd like to test playing after taking coffee and having slept properly (since I guess if you didn't sleep enough and take coffee you are like "normal", as if you had enough sleep) but I don't think that it will change that much. Energy drinks made me play faster in fighting games but not in sc2, which is kind of weird
one energy drink? you serious? :D
caffeine helps a bit to concentrate and be on point with your game imo, but one energydrink is not enough to make any difference i guess - even with tons you barely feel any difference.
one day i played drunk till 8am - next time i wondered why i lost 200 points :D
the thread opener asked about prescription medications. i am aware some people can smoke weed because of that but i guess weed is considered a downer not an upper. so basicly its a stupid drug to take for enhancing your performance.
i´ve never taken any prescription medications (uppers) becasue thank god my parents decided against stuffing a teenager with hard drugs. i did however take care of that later by myself.
i informed myself years ago and i think ritalin is nearly the same as speed (amphetamin) which was used to loose weight etc, as a prescription drug which later got forbidden. meth is like a strong amphetamin. so basicly you could say if you take ritalin you take some sort of weak meth. again im not a chemist but the line is very thin and the pharama industrie would sell blow if they could.
so my point is taking anything like this is taking HARD DRUGS. you will, if you have a weak mind, get addicted. it will have an impact on your personality (cant stress this enough) and your health. it does not matter if some random doc told you to take it. when you walk away being depressed your whole life it´s on you.
in short: in my opinion the only difference between prescription medications and black market drugs is the prescription things are not punched so you may get over 50 years old. but it will fuck you up big time if you are not very very mentall fit, which most people are not.. so they take drugs. it´s very dangerous. youre playing with fire.
but its alot of fun becasue they work. for a short period of time at least.
On January 14 2012 22:42 Equity213 wrote: Smoke weed: move down a league Do cocaine: move up a league
But drugs are bad, mmkay?
Pretty much this.
And you should ask pros about this. They'll never talk though. But some of them seems definitely not "natural" when you see them in the booths.
cocaine: move up a league? from silver to gold maybe - on a very high skilllevel your brain has to funcion prefectly. And ofc players dont look all too "natural" sometimes in the booths - imagine yourself playing an very important game with tons and tons of viewers - wouldnt you get nervous? Although some might try things to be more focused - i very highly doubt anyone ever tried "cocaine" before a match/tournament. you are just a crazy drughead, thats all.
On January 14 2012 22:42 Equity213 wrote: Smoke weed: move down a league Do cocaine: move up a league
But drugs are bad, mmkay?
Pretty much this.
And you should ask pros about this. They'll never talk though. But some of them seems definitely not "natural" when you see them in the booths.
cocaine: move up a league? from silver to gold maybe - on a very high skilllevel your brain has to funcion prefectly. And ofc players dont look all too "natural" sometimes in the booths - imagine yourself playing an very important game with tons and tons of viewers - wouldnt you get nervous? Although some might try things to be more focused - i very highly doubt anyone ever tried "cocaine" before a match/tournament. you are just a crazy drughead, thats all.
you cant call people who like drugs crazy. maybe they are crazy but history showed some very bright people were heavily into drugs. crazy is not always that bad you know. absinth, anyone? im not saying everyones a genius who takes them. most are idiots.
i agree most pros will not take hard drugs. however you can take a bunch of people no matter what they do some are into drugs. i guess this is safe to say even not knowing one progamer personally.
anyway people who take drugs tend to think other people take them too if they act a certain way. so he thinks everyone is on drugs when they act awkward or very focused and sweating and stuff like this because those things are smyptoms when you take drugs.
hope i could stop you guys fighting. your both too much in your own corner and should open up towards the other direction a bit.
On January 14 2012 22:42 Equity213 wrote: Smoke weed: move down a league Do cocaine: move up a league
But drugs are bad, mmkay?
Pretty much this.
And you should ask pros about this. They'll never talk though. But some of them seems definitely not "natural" when you see them in the booths.
cocaine: move up a league? from silver to gold maybe - on a very high skilllevel your brain has to funcion prefectly. And ofc players dont look all too "natural" sometimes in the booths - imagine yourself playing an very important game with tons and tons of viewers - wouldnt you get nervous? Although some might try things to be more focused - i very highly doubt anyone ever tried "cocaine" before a match/tournament. you are just a crazy drughead, thats all.
Sure, improving your confidence doesn't improve your performance. Do you know what you're talking about?
And pros plays for money. There's no rules about enhancement drugs. Savior cheated for money on another level. Do you think no one cheats at the moment? Money makes people crazy. We already know by people like FXOBoss that e-sports is shady and not transparent. I wouldn't find it surprising if we discover actual pros are using drugs in some years when e-sports will be mature and will be generating a lot more cash.
Edit: I'll follow above poster now. He's right and i'll stop fighting now that you know my arguments. Thanks.
On January 14 2012 22:42 Equity213 wrote: Smoke weed: move down a league Do cocaine: move up a league
But drugs are bad, mmkay?
Pretty much this.
And you should ask pros about this. They'll never talk though. But some of them seems definitely not "natural" when you see them in the booths.
cocaine: move up a league? from silver to gold maybe - on a very high skilllevel your brain has to funcion prefectly. And ofc players dont look all too "natural" sometimes in the booths - imagine yourself playing an very important game with tons and tons of viewers - wouldnt you get nervous? Although some might try things to be more focused - i very highly doubt anyone ever tried "cocaine" before a match/tournament. you are just a crazy drughead, thats all.
Sure, improving your confidence doesn't improve your performance. Do you know what you're talking about?
And pros plays for money. There's no rules about enhancement drugs. Savior cheated for money on another level. Do you think no one cheats at the moment? Money makes people crazy. We already know by people like FXOBoss that e-sports is shady and not transparent. I wouldn't find it surprising if we discover actual pros are using drugs in some years when e-sports will be mature and will be generating a lot more cash.
Edit: I'll follow above poster now. He's right and i'll stop fighting now that you know my arguments. Thanks.
im sure some ppl tried "drugs" and other things to try to improve their play.
I was just talking specificly about cocaine before tournament games. That goes a bit too far and to imagine something like that, you gotta love drugs yourself i think. thats what i wanted to say^^
Srsly. So many of the posters here are drug users, I didnt know it was quite common while playing sc2. Mayb it isnt but it does seem so because there are few ppl that post here w/o experiences of influence while playing.
I havent ever used any drug or medication while playing. Dont drink coffee nor tea at home. I do smoke cigs because it gives me the feeling I'm calmer, but honestly, I've lost many finals at LANs while using energy drinks/coffee or smoking cigs before match. I also tend to screw up exams etc when I drink coffee or energy drink.
For me, the best way to perform has always been to be sober, have a normal diet, enough sleep (very important) nd just enought water while doing my thing. Whether its gaming, school or work, i enjoy coffee nd cigs but I tend to perform worse with it than being completely "natural"
I dont know if thats normal, but something inside me says that its this way because I have a incredible focus by myself, and coffee/smoking etc makes me feel blurry. I would srsly like to try adderal sometime tho, mayb id become a superfocussed superhuman haha ^^
PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
One time I drank a coffee and then played StarCraft 2, the whole game suddenly was extremely fluid to read and easy to play. This was enhanced when I smoked a cigarette. Imagine what it'd be like on Aspirin!
(For those not getting the point: "Drugs" doesn't simply mean "Substances the law forbids you to take that produce an effect within your body", it means "Substances that produce an effect within your body". All of the above mentioned things are Drugs.)
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
On January 14 2012 23:43 twiitar wrote: One time I drank a coffee and then played StarCraft 2, the whole game suddenly was extremely fluid to read and easy to play. This was enhanced when I smoked a cigarette. Imagine what it'd be like on Aspirin!
(For those not getting the point: "Drugs" doesn't simply mean "Substances the law forbids you to take that produce an effect within your body", it means "Substances that produce an effect within your body". All of the above mentioned things are Drugs.)
Then food are drugs as well by your definition o;o
I pretty much always play Sc2 with bong hits and coffee. So in a way I'm sober, since I'm just always high on THC and caffeine. Thats normal rigkl bnmhj,og76yt5v? (< Haha don't worry that was me kidding, I'm fine). I think if I stopped smoking (and drinking coffee/pop) for 3 months and played with a similar regimen. I would probably be much better, but I haven't tried so I can't say for sure.
Edit: I think weed has affected the way I think enough that even if I stopped smoking it would probably only be more beneficial (the time spent high while playing was a good learning experience).
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote: Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
only one way to find out if it fits you. but always keep in mind those drugs will give you more energy but its chemical which means you trick your body. adderal is an amphetamin right? so this means if you take it you artifically make your body think youre in an extrem situation you need to survive. for example run away from a lion. while sitting on a desk.
is this something youre into? you would abuse the drug. please just dont if you have a family or a wife and things like that.
I've played SC2 with migraines before. The medicine I sometimes take for them speeds the blood flow to the brain and so sometimes I feel like my mind is moving much faster than the world around me. Once while playing with that migraine on my meds I literally felt like the world was slowing down around me and I was watching it at high speed. I felt like my APM was 300 or something. I seemed to blitz through everything with time to spare. After a few minutes my daughter came up to me and asked why I wasn't playing. I responded that I was playing, couldn't she see how fast my hands were moving? She said no, I wasn't moving at all. She was right, my base was being attacked and I wasn't even responding in real life. A very freaky experience, but sometimes my mind glitches like that when I have migraines.
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
Yes it was a serious question, thnx for your answer
My biggest problem has always been being lazy in the way I dont use time effectively, mostly school before nd work now. Because i run 2 companies i work like 60hours a week, runs me dry quickly and first time in my life i feel like i NEED vacation once in a while. Always had the feeling that prescription might help my work ethics, but mayb as you say, drugs/medication are not the anwer..
if i smoke a little dope, i get slightly better, and ive heard that ADD and ADHD people also get better when they are on their medication. however, i usually just smoke too much and then i play like shit, but still think im playing well. i lost 3 games in a row in bronze 2v2s yesterday before i realized how badly i was playing. it does get rid of ladder fear, but if your also playing badly thats terrible for your mmr
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote: Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
only one way to find out if it fits you. but always keep in mind those drugs will give you more energy but its chemical which means you trick your body. adderal is an amphetamin right? so this means if you take it you artifically make your body think youre in an extrem situation you need to survive. for example run away from a lion. while sitting on a desk.
is this something youre into? please just dont if you have a family or a wife and things like that.
Hahah awesome comparison :D and no i dont have a wife or kids. I work for my family tho, nd theyr chinese, so mayb u understand a bit why im such a workaholic now simply cus Im Chinese. Thnx for info
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
Yes it was a serious question, thnx for your answer
My biggest problem has always been being lazy in the way I dont use time effectively, mostly school before nd work now. Because i run 2 companies i work like 60hours a week, runs me dry quickly and first time in my life i feel like i NEED vacation once in a while. Always had the feeling that prescription might help my work ethics, but mayb as you say, drugs/medication are not the anwer..
take some time off.
but drugs are for having fun or if you are really sick (in that case i mean drugs as medications), not for such problems. It will feel good at first, but after that it feels worse
On January 14 2012 23:51 halfies wrote: if i smoke a little dope, i get slightly better, and ive heard that ADD and ADHD people also get better when they are on their medication.
thing about drug is they work. question is if it is justified to take them or if its just parents drugging their kids for the sake of it.
but yea sure they get better.. i bet if you give your kid blow it will do better at parties. or starcraft. or picking up wemon. until year brain is fucked and you are a retard at the age of 60or cant do shit without drugs.
On January 14 2012 15:28 Odal wrote: This thread is just going to turn into a circlejerk of people bragging about smoking weed errday.
also, this. i attempted to keep that mentality out of my post, but i probably failed miserably, so i should probably add that smoking dope isn't inherently cool, just like drinking isn't inheretly cool. you can be cool and do either/or, but it wont be because of what your poison is
On January 14 2012 14:24 neoghaleon55 wrote: This thread....why.... I think it's a bit inappropriate. Maybe if you want to discuss these things, you can do so in blog. Drugs overall does not concern starcraft at all.
lol...
I tried to play a game of BW on LSD. It was really uncomfortable. There was too much around me to care about the game so I just stopped.
I was on Ecstasy about 1 year ago and I came back home on a friday night and played in the Friday night KOTH. I was playing really well and then I just left randomly half way through the game. I'm not sure why I left, I probably just wanted to do something else.
Smoking weed and playing BW/SC2 for me is a death trap. I play at like 40% of what I am capable of. I'm much too chill to play. I guess it could depend on the strain of weed though, if I had some really good shit I may become super human. After I get my vaporizer I'm going to try it again with some really powerful strains.
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
Yes it was a serious question, thnx for your answer
My biggest problem has always been being lazy in the way I dont use time effectively, mostly school before nd work now. Because i run 2 companies i work like 60hours a week, runs me dry quickly and first time in my life i feel like i NEED vacation once in a while. Always had the feeling that prescription might help my work ethics, but mayb as you say, drugs/medication are not the anwer..
take some time off.
but drugs are for having fun or if you are really sick (in that case i mean drugs as medications), not for such problems. It will feel good at first, but after that it feels worse
My god. using boosters to keep working is really really bad. Use sleep, go for a long walk after dinner, things like that give you energy. Don't drink alcohol.
I do drugs but NOT when there is something important ( work ) going on in my life. The thing with drugs is, you get a high for a short period and then you'll have a low for a longer period. So you gotta make sure that you have nothing going on in the days after you do any drug. And don't do boosters ( cocaine, (meth)amphetamines ). Nobody really likes them.
On January 14 2012 15:45 Neptuneajax wrote: Halucinogens: Forget it. Just forget it. You may THINK it would be cool but honestly your mind drifts to other places very
I totally agree with ya. Was trippin balls on shrooms, when i though i would play some starcraft. The early stages of the game went fine, until my opponent started chatting to me, which just freaked me out. I had to turn off my computer. To anyone who been on shrooms, you know how the atmosphere can change into something uncomftorble. My friend who was also trippin calmed me down, and i was fine for the rest of the trip. Weed works fine unless you have zero tolerance, then you just get too high to play. Alkohol is a no go for me, since its impossible for me to multitask when im drunk,. Amphetamine works very well, but i dont recommend it, since its a disqusting drug. Coffeine works aswell, for obvious reasons.
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
Yes it was a serious question, thnx for your answer
My biggest problem has always been being lazy in the way I dont use time effectively, mostly school before nd work now. Because i run 2 companies i work like 60hours a week, runs me dry quickly and first time in my life i feel like i NEED vacation once in a while. Always had the feeling that prescription might help my work ethics, but mayb as you say, drugs/medication are not the anwer..
take some time off.
but drugs are for having fun or if you are really sick (in that case i mean drugs as medications), not for such problems. It will feel good at first, but after that it feels worse
My god. using boosters to keep working is really really bad. Use sleep, go for a long walk after dinner, things like that give you energy. Don't drink alcohol.
I do drugs but NOT when there is something important ( work ) going on in my life. The thing with drugs is, you get a high for a short period and then you'll have a low for a longer period. So you gotta make sure that you have nothing going on in the days after you do any drug. And don't do boosters ( cocaine, (meth)amphetamines ). Nobody really likes them.
I have no experience in drugs so i dont rly know the difference. But what i was thinking about was more those prescribed medicins that ppl use before exams etc. I know many ppl in the netherlands use em in university etc. i think its either called ritalin or the one that adhd ppl use to calm/concentrate, adderal? Maybe they are both as bad as other drugs? I guess using them on daily basis is bad for sure, are they also addictive? Cus i know from myself im sensitive to addictions
Anyway its just a consideration ive had for quite some time. Only if i see more pros ill MAYB give it a try someday
Cocaine is a drug right? Dude, I had a terrible experience with that... Had an insane streak, played 34 games since school ended early, bout 10 o'clock... lost just once, it was in the end cuz my friend made me try Coke...I don't and I won't ever drink coke again...first time I ever had coke... I lost to a bronze zerg...T.T Diamond toss btw...
Caffeine is bad whilst gaming unless you have ADHD or ADD. It just makes emotions run high, you may rage. You focus may be good but taking in thoughts and learning is hindered while on caffeine. I stopped e-drinks and coffee and since then ive been improving more rapidly.
Sex alcohol and rock and roll are my three vices, and while I've only laddered under the influence of two of those, I can only imagine the last would be just as useless for helping my plat APM
I take Xanax for anxiety, I just can't play for a couple hours after I take one (1mg). My reflexes are just shot to hell, I'll be like "Okay here come the hellions zerglings run in drones run away!" and by the time I'm halfway through thinking that all my drones are dead my body is so far behind my mind lol.
I can confirm and verify that playing SC2 on acid is the most unifying experience I've ever had.
It was as if the fabric of a cosmic consciousness had ripped itself open and bled through straight to the very room in which I was sating my seemingly infinite appetite for digital destruction in pulsating magnitudes. The concept of this seemingly endless day-to-day barrage of stimuli, which had been so well ingrained into my quotidian, was whisked away with a grandiosity never before felt. At that very moment, I pondered how so specific a feeling would affect me for the rest of my days.
As Zerg and Zerg-brethen fell, ideas and memories arose. I understood all of it. For what was between an instant and a millenia, I understood all of it.
But that sensation's not unique to SC2. It's more or less whenever I'm on acid. SC2 on alcohol is incredibly satisfying because of how overconfident I become. SC2 on painkillers is a undesirable affair. SC2 on pot is incredibly relaxing but you'll be shocked by how content you can be with getting demoted on multiple instances in one night. SC2 on mushrooms is kaleidoscopic at best. SC2 on peyote is a godsend.
t was as if the fabric of a cosmic consciousness had ripped itself open and bled through straight to the very room in which I was sating my seemingly infinite appetite for digital destruction in pulsating magnitudes. The concept of this seemingly endless day-to-day barrage of stimuli, which had been so well ingrained into my quotidian, was whisked away with a grandiosity never before felt. At that very moment, I pondered how so specific a feeling would affect me for the rest of my days
I have always played stoned out of my mind. When I am stoned, I can clearly see how hilariously bad both I and my opponent are at controlling the battlefield. Some examples are supply blocks, mismicro, lack of macro, but theres always some shenanigan that is lacking. I play at a mid masters level. Being stoned has shown me how ladder play/rank means absolutely nothing in terms of your actual skill. ( im a total noobie )
I play at a slightly slower pace. However, it is easier to identify my mistakes because they become so glaringly obvious whilst blazed out of my mind.
On January 14 2012 14:25 QuackPocketDuck wrote: Never had decent prescription medication in my adult life Usually I sip coffee / energy drink and pull green between my ladder games or while searching for game. Obviously my favorite way of playing. Overall I don't really play without that formula since I start raging (at my own fails)
You mean you drink coffee or an energy drink while embracing mary jane?
On January 14 2012 14:25 QuackPocketDuck wrote: Never had decent prescription medication in my adult life Usually I sip coffee / energy drink and pull green between my ladder games or while searching for game. Obviously my favorite way of playing. Overall I don't really play without that formula since I start raging (at my own fails)
You mean you drink coffee or an energy drink while embracing mary jane?
A MIGHTY COMBO. The hippie speedball (exclude energy drink).
I can't play video games sober anymore. I have to smoke a joint to enjoy SC2, it helps to clear my mind of all other things and focus on the game, thus preventing me from making stupid mistakes and raging out.
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
Yes it was a serious question, thnx for your answer
My biggest problem has always been being lazy in the way I dont use time effectively, mostly school before nd work now. Because i run 2 companies i work like 60hours a week, runs me dry quickly and first time in my life i feel like i NEED vacation once in a while. Always had the feeling that prescription might help my work ethics, but mayb as you say, drugs/medication are not the anwer..
take some time off.
but drugs are for having fun or if you are really sick (in that case i mean drugs as medications), not for such problems. It will feel good at first, but after that it feels worse
My god. using boosters to keep working is really really bad. Use sleep, go for a long walk after dinner, things like that give you energy. Don't drink alcohol.
I do drugs but NOT when there is something important ( work ) going on in my life. The thing with drugs is, you get a high for a short period and then you'll have a low for a longer period. So you gotta make sure that you have nothing going on in the days after you do any drug. And don't do boosters ( cocaine, (meth)amphetamines ). Nobody really likes them.
I have no experience in drugs so i dont rly know the difference. But what i was thinking about was more those prescribed medicins that ppl use before exams etc. I know many ppl in the netherlands use em in university etc. i think its either called ritalin or the one that adhd ppl use to calm/concentrate, adderal? Maybe they are both as bad as other drugs? I guess using them on daily basis is bad for sure, are they also addictive? Cus i know from myself im sensitive to addictions
Anyway its just a consideration ive had for quite some time. Only if i see more pros ill MAYB give it a try someday
They are not physical addictive but they are psychological addictive. If you use them long enough you'll think you are unable to do stuff without them. If your sensitive to addiction I'd propose to not try them.
There are worse drugs but they are pretty dangerous too. About as bad as Meth : p
On January 14 2012 23:35 ruiyang wrote:PS not that it matters but Im 23yrs old, used to be top10 sc2 of the netherlands, now im retired nd run 2 companies. Always seem to have too few energy/time. Mayb drugs/medication like adderal could help me use my time more effectively aswell??
if your question is serious: NEVER do drugs for that purpose! Use them occasionally, if you like to, when partying and having a good time, not for time management and concentration
Yes it was a serious question, thnx for your answer
My biggest problem has always been being lazy in the way I dont use time effectively, mostly school before nd work now. Because i run 2 companies i work like 60hours a week, runs me dry quickly and first time in my life i feel like i NEED vacation once in a while. Always had the feeling that prescription might help my work ethics, but mayb as you say, drugs/medication are not the anwer..
take some time off.
but drugs are for having fun or if you are really sick (in that case i mean drugs as medications), not for such problems. It will feel good at first, but after that it feels worse
My god. using boosters to keep working is really really bad. Use sleep, go for a long walk after dinner, things like that give you energy. Don't drink alcohol.
I do drugs but NOT when there is something important ( work ) going on in my life. The thing with drugs is, you get a high for a short period and then you'll have a low for a longer period. So you gotta make sure that you have nothing going on in the days after you do any drug. And don't do boosters ( cocaine, (meth)amphetamines ). Nobody really likes them.
I have no experience in drugs so i dont rly know the difference. But what i was thinking about was more those prescribed medicins that ppl use before exams etc. I know many ppl in the netherlands use em in university etc. i think its either called ritalin or the one that adhd ppl use to calm/concentrate, adderal? Maybe they are both as bad as other drugs? I guess using them on daily basis is bad for sure, are they also addictive? Cus i know from myself im sensitive to addictions
Anyway its just a consideration ive had for quite some time. Only if i see more pros ill MAYB give it a try someday
They are not physical addictive but they are psychological addictive. If you use them long enough you'll think you are unable to do stuff without them. If your sensitive to addiction I'd propose to not try them.
There are worse drugs but they are pretty dangerous too. About as bad as Meth : p
WHAT? have you seen someone thats been on meth for 10 years? they age like 20-30 years (body wise) in that time its so fucking bad for your body.. i dont think they are nearly as bad as meth.
At a pro level none of it helps unfortunately.. I have tried adderal/paxil/caffeine/MJ/liquour, I would say something like a mix of paxil and caffeine might have an added benefit if you were to be taking the paxil on a scheduled routine.
The problem with drugs and video games is that there is next to no research done so experimenting with it is more of a time waster for anyone serious enough to abuse them. The idea of taking adderal to help you focus might work but I find it doesn't for me.
About three years ago I'd abuse ecstasy and play counter-strike. I could think so fast and clearly, and my reaction speed and hand precision was so much greater than normal. From a spectator's perspective, I was so fast and precise that it looked like i was aimbotting. Great times. Unfortunately, I haven't used ecstasy while playing Starcraft 2. I would love to experiment with that.
I have used cannabis while playing starcraft. A low dose. The most significant effect was that thoughts flowed more freely, and I was more creative in my strategies. I was playing terran at the time.
I often try and play starcraft after having smoked a joint, and everytime I get in game I remember why it doesn't work out, my idea's for strategies, and scouting, game sense are spot on, however my execution and macro are so horrible, it always feels like my game is a gigantic snowball falling down a hill that I can't control, then it seems like there's too much things to control I can't do, and I loose haha.
But on another note, playing while drinking it just fine lol.
I don't understand people who say they play better on weed. Sure I can mess around and have fun playing custom 1v1's or team games after a smoke, but for laddering, my execution and micro are much worse when I'm stoned, so is my multitask, like I'll be micro'ing a banshee and realise I haven't built any units or scv's for a minute because I was so focused on the banshee micro. I hate playing SC under the influence of any drugs, except caffeine (coffee). I don't think caffeine affects my play that much, just a little more alertness.
I stopped smoking weed in August but when I would play high, I was incredibly meticulous about everything I did, to the point where I would stop everything and spend 45 seconds just splitting my Roaches perfectly so that no Fungals could hit more than 2 Roaches. But in the meantime, I wasn't creating units, wasn't hitting injects, wasn't looking at the map, scouting, etc... Usually I would just get rolled by an army twice the size of mine, but would make a decent fight of it because all I was focused on was microing the army.
I play while drinking quite a bit - I even have a stream called Yaki's Starcraft and Beer Show (shameless plug) - and I tend to do well for the first few games, but after a few losses I tend to lose my ability to play and end up going for cheeses that I've never practiced, racking up 2-3 more losses and then quitting. Sometimes I hit a real nice buzz where I'm carefree and somehow have really good injects and production and larva management, but it's hard to sustain that buzz since it's difficult to drink in the middle of a game.
I don't think any drug would really help with starcraft, it's a game that requires extremely high concentration for a long period of time, which is why you see all those bw players start sweating in prolonged games.
I know for myself, and probably most players, early game you are the strongest since you're working off build orders and so forth but later game your mind turns to "blah" since there is so much more variables going on. I guess if you play enough and everything becomes muscle memory, than it would help because you don't have to think as much, so it preserves you getting to that mental fatigue part as quickly... therefore you can work on muscle memory and use heavy concentration in squirts here and there, in order to stave off mental fatigue, if that makes any sense.
However, that can only go so far, as someone with high level of concentration even extending to the very late game just think faster and better. Things like weed and smoking cigarette really only serves to relax you when you hit that mental fatigue area, it doesn't make you think faster and more clearly...
Basically drug is no good, just be fit healthy, to reach the top of your concentration levels..
On January 15 2012 04:37 akalarry wrote: i find it sad that people need to take their substances in order to play, as they can't enjoy the game sober.
From the OP:
Keep in mind, also, this is in no way a thread meant to pinpoint ways to use drugs to your advantage in gaming. This is simply for swapping stories about what weird/unexpected stuff it does to you while you're playing.
Prejudice is faster than thought for some, reading and understanding falls under that category.
I play high, mainly because I do most things high.
I also played once rolling. My buddy and I 1v1ed after taking some pills. It was hard as hell to play, I think once we hit 3 bases I was like okay and threw my army away.
On January 15 2012 03:41 superLanboy wrote: We can talk about all drugs, right?
About three years ago I'd abuse ecstasy and play counter-strike. I could think so fast and clearly, and my reaction speed and hand precision was so much greater than normal. From a spectator's perspective, I was so fast and precise that it looked like i was aimbotting. Great times. Unfortunately, I haven't used ecstasy while playing Starcraft 2. I would love to experiment with that.
I have used cannabis while playing starcraft. A low dose. The most significant effect was that thoughts flowed more freely, and I was more creative in my strategies. I was playing terran at the time.
That makes sense to me for an FPS game, you could see how stimulants like that would benefit you. However from personal experience the lack of focus and scattered thoughts you tend to get on ecstasy and similar jobs makes your gameplay woeful when it comes to a game that is based more on conscious decision making, such as Starcraft.
Incidentally, as a cultural question, if indeed I'm correct in thinking so, why exactly are prescription medications used so much more in NA than over in Europe and elsewhere it seems?
Sorry for going slightly offtopic, but does anyone else get a weird feeling in their back when they've had both caffeine and alchohol?
On topic: I used to only play when i had energy drinks (specifically Monster), but i've stopped because even though i probably played better when stoked up with sugar and caffeine it sucked to have to rely on it.
Did a planned ladder session on speed once. Game after game for 16 hours with only small breaks. Was pretty good for my ingame mechanics, micro and overall awareness. Strategy wise it sucked though. Terrible timings and constantly misjudging the opponent, switching own strategies way too often. No motivation and rage issues though. Just glad having somthing to do all the time...
It did not improve my game overall. I only really improved my mechanics again after not playing for 6 months and never having played really hardcore. Some games spread over a couple of days would have been better for training i guess.
Don't try this at home kids. I'm not proud of this and no one should do it! Stuff like this takes its toll and i agree on it beeing illegal.
A couple of days ago I read a nice article in a newspaper which, in its essence, said that serious gaming produces the same amounts of adrenaline in your body as any other physical sport that involves winning and loosing (or any result that matters to you). The problem with this is that playing starcraft unlike real sports, leaves your body unable to metabolise the adrenaline due to the lack of muscle activity. The consequences are manifold and range from shaky hands up the risk of getting a heart attack.
So, I figured that I need to keep my adrenaline levels down while not loosing my edge in play. I guess I could take regular pushup brakes to keep my heart pumping but i am kind of a lazy dude so no thx... now does anyone have a nice drug to solve the problem with?
On January 15 2012 04:05 Treziel wrote: I don't understand people who say they play better on weed. Sure I can mess around and have fun playing custom 1v1's or team games after a smoke, but for laddering, my execution and micro are much worse when I'm stoned, so is my multitask, like I'll be micro'ing a banshee and realise I haven't built any units or scv's for a minute because I was so focused on the banshee micro. I hate playing SC under the influence of any drugs, except caffeine (coffee). I don't think caffeine affects my play that much, just a little more alertness.
QFT.
As someone who used to smoke pot all day every day throughout university, my skill level has sharply increased since i lowered my pot habit. Exactly like the quote, you just miss things that you do naturally when your sober, like macroing and watching the minimap. You play like absolute crap when absolutely stoned, and if you really think you can play better in this state frankly you are just making excuses to make your addiction to pot seem justified.
Weed is great when playing casual teams or customs but for serious ladder its putting a skill ceiling on yourself mechanically and mentally. You might be more "calm" but you could attain this same calmness by doing deep-breathing exercises and relaxing before you play, personally playing in a relaxed state of mind usually ends up with me losing because you need to be alert and active throughout the whole game to have victory.
The most weed I will smoke before a 1v1 session is 1 joint and I will allow myself to become "stoned" while watching GSL, reps or team games, and when I feel ready for 1s a sharp coffee or Coke to wake up, even then I find I burn out quicker because you need to re-ignite your high at some point or you fall off the cliff of mental energy.
Also never try to play while on Salvia, I took a hit, came out of my trip with my keyboard and mouse unplugged and neatly tied up...on the floor with my monitor, with a "defeat" window waiting for me. Watching the replay showed I built 7 scvs before spamming rally points and shouting jibberish at my opponent...
I've been playing SC2 while waiting for sleep medication to kick in. Usually takes around 30mins to kick in... Ended up in an extreme macro game... Turns out adrenaline and other hormones you get from playing SC are stronger than my medication... Couldn't fall asleep and I'm not allowed to take more medication/day
The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by a man in a tan coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances of winning and games anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
When I want to play serious and win I do take some vyvanse 50mg, it is like adderall but better at least it is for me. When I play the game high on pot I get to scared and scream. When I play multiplayer I either can't play high or mute my mic because I get super loud and scream for help. Watching your base slowly die when you are high is not fun. I have played while on other things but I wont get into that.
On January 15 2012 05:51 SnowSC2 wrote: The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by the man in the a coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
You should've taken some more NZT, maybe you'd gain psychic powers!
On Topic: I think I ladder a lot better when I drink caffine. I usually don't drink any coffee so for me it's easy to see how it effects how I do things, but my dad for example drinks so much coffee that if I drank that much it probably wouldn't help me.
Playing at high masters/ GM level high on weed is proof that every little things matter at highest level of play.
PPl i normally roll over will make me look terrible if im stoned(weed), that 1 second extra reaction time, and the tunneling really hurts... You can play for fun stoned, but no way can you compete. Going 3minutes without larva inject busy harassing microing, beeing like hell yea im schooling this dude. Then you realize you only have 6 larvas sitting when he moves out, facepalm.
Overall, drugs are not good and will do nothing but cripple you.
Alright, I will go into other drugs I have done while playing starcraft 2.
Ketamine: Do not play starcraft 2 on 'K' I was useless and could not function on it or play. Acid: I played SC2 on acid and I got super sad while I was killing the terran units and I felt like a murderer and the screen was swirling all over. Shrooms: I played for 4 games won 2 and then went outside to play. 2CI: My game was horrible and off in so many ways. 2CE: I did so so I went 3 games with winning and then went on a major lose cycle. Speed: I have played SC2 on speed multiple times and I did do well. I currently do not do speed and you shouldn't either. Molly: Loved playing on molly but I found myself talking to much in the game on mic and with players on the other teams having heart to hearts with them. Adderall: I love playing on adderall and I always do.
It would be interesting to see how many pro players are on adderall, ritalin, and the like. It's pretty likely that some of them are on those drugs and that their performance gets busted as a result. At some point mayor tournaments should take seriously the possibility of submitting their players to drug tests. It's not obvious that they should, but the possibility is worth considering.
SnowSC2 United States. January 15 2012 05:51. Posts 568 PM Profile Blog Report Quote # The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by the man in the a coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
i forgot the movie's name but i remember it being awesome
Also i really dislike the idea of taking drugs to try to improve performance in game. If your regularly taking medication or maybe you have certain caffeine habits etc. I think thats fine, but things like taking adderall specifically to perform better is just an appalling concept to me. I hate the idea of relying on or contributing your success to something you've taken to be "better" at sc2. It's more of the idea that thats not quite you that is playing better. Its an altered you. I understand why people do it at a high level, i don't agree with it but i get that your perception of such things can more easily swing in one direction or the other when your stressed or at a hard block or things like that but i would always disagree with the abuse of such things.
SnowSC2 United States. January 15 2012 05:51. Posts 568 PM Profile Blog Report Quote # The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by the man in the a coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
i forgot the movie's name but i remember it being awesome
edit: k so, alcohol sc2 can really prove to you how good you are because you rely a lot more on muscle memory and how comfortable you are with the game. I'm mid master basically and I can wreck any diamond while fairly buzzed and probably beat low masters as long as they didn't do anything too fucking meta (you sort of play more mechanically/thoughtless on alcohol).
k that's all.
This is super true for me as well. I honestly prefer playing sc2 while drinking because it takes all of the stress out of the game for me Though I'm only diamond XD
I'm frequently in the top 300 of master league for reference;
alcohol: 1-3 drinks has virtually no effect. 3-5 drinks and I start noticing the game "speeding up". 8+ drinks and I'm toast. I play at a diamond level.
weed: I don't really smoke that much... I got a free eighth of some Blue Dream about 8 months ago and I still have a solid sized nugget left. Needless to say, it doesn't take much smoke to get me really high. I find myself playing at a mid-low masters level depending on how high I am. Noticeably more supply blocked.
caffeine: Whenever I drank coffee or Red Bull while playing, I would go on these 10-2 streaks, 8-1, those type of streaks... and start playing players like EGStrifeCro and puCK, DaisyPrime, ThisIsJimmy, etc. My MMR shoots up when I'm on caffeine. I am generally more alert, my game sense is heightened, and my mechanics and APM are notably more concise.
It sucks though, because after I go on one of those runs, the next session I play (not jacked of coffee) I get demolished.
On January 15 2012 09:22 ButtCraft wrote: I'm frequently in the top 300 of master league for reference;
alcohol: 1-3 drinks has virtually no effect. 3-5 drinks and I start noticing the game "speeding up". 8+ drinks and I'm toast. I play at a diamond level.
weed: I don't really smoke that much... I got a free eighth of some Blue Dream about 8 months ago and I still have a solid sized nugget left. Needless to say, it doesn't take much smoke to get me really high. I find myself playing at a mid-low masters level depending on how high I am. Noticeably more supply blocked.
caffeine: Whenever I drank coffee or Red Bull while playing, I would go on these 10-2 streaks, 8-1, those type of streaks... and start playing players like EGStrifeCro and puCK, DaisyPrime, ThisIsJimmy, etc. My MMR shoots up when I'm on caffeine. I am generally more alert, my game sense is heightened, and my mechanics and APM are notably more concise.
It sucks though, because after I go on one of those runs, the next session I play (not jacked of coffee) I get demolished.
Sadly caffeine doesn't give me such performance-enhancing effects, given I was 10+ cups of coffee a day for years I feel my body just requires caffeine to reach normal levels of alertness.
On January 15 2012 05:51 SnowSC2 wrote: The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by the man in the a coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
That was a lot of effort to put in for one joke, and I'm sad that no one has taken the time to respond to you yet. 8(
On January 15 2012 05:51 SnowSC2 wrote: The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by a man in a tan coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances of winning and games anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
I think the Limitless Adaptation is a good example of forum posting on drugs.
In a recent drug addled dream, I dreamt that I was playing a friend of mine on starcraft 2 and he kept cheesing me and winning. Finally out of frustration I typed in a simple sarcastic statement "why don't you learn to play with skill?" I typed that out but instead of just that sentence showing, an endless stream of text started appearing on the screen and being sent to my friend. The content was all the most evil and despicable things I have privately thought to myself during some kind of game-induced tilt/rage. Words like torture, die, hell, God, fuck, all manner of blasphemies and rotten utterances kept being sent. I closed the application but it was too late. All my private evil had been publicly exposed for my friends to see.
I play after smoking weed pretty much every day. I don't ladder though. I feel slower when I do it for sure. reaction time, sometimes I'll forget to make scvs (something I'm normally completely fine with). basically multitasking becomes impossible so I just play customs and work on maxing out fast and a-moving, winlose doesn't matter but it lets me run builds at least.
I've also played on painkillers which is fun, I'm sure they slow me down but I care way less haha. only issue there is if I lose and get pissed off it's like, why did I get myself in this state instead of enjoying myself?
I could never ladder whilst under the influence of anything more than caffeine though. It would send me off the rails.
I already habitually cry everytime mutas are in my main. And neighbours complain about my screams that I make every time I get dropped. And then whenever I win I end up doing ceremonies for nobody to appreciate but myself.
Can you imagine what laddering would be like for me if was on any of the hardcore drugs?
green tea and a bit of weed, can usually only play games for a bit on other drugs. exept dxm, i played crash bandicoot racing for 2 hours straight before on dxm
On January 15 2012 13:51 Selendis wrote: This thread is hilarious.
I could never ladder whilst under the influence of anything more than caffeine though. It would send me off the rails.
I already habitually cry everytime mutas are in my main. And neighbours complain about my screams that I make every time I get dropped. And then whenever I win I end up doing ceremonies for nobody to appreciate but myself.
Can you imagine what laddering would be like for me if was on any of the hardcore drugs?
Being dropped:
Heroin - "uhhh... oh, a drop. hmmm. bed." Meth - "YOU MOTHERFUCKER!" Cocaine - "What the hell? Completely illogical! This drop sacrificed 500 minerals and 100 gas for three scv's, which comes out to a loss of only 100 minerals per minute in income and a loss replacement of 150 minerals during that period! HAH (... shit, is he going to drop again? better put up 100 turrets)!" LSD - "My mind is a better game than Starcraft. What're those little blue shooty-thingies and oh, oh, blood, not cool not cool OH SHIT THAT ROBOT CHICK JUST TOOK OFF HER FACE (happyplacehappyplacehappyplace)." Weed - "oh, pizza... forgot I had that."
My take. I don't have a lot of experience with most of the above.
On January 15 2012 05:51 SnowSC2 wrote: The year was 2009, it was a warm winter evening in Austin, Texas. I had recently been dumped by by girlfriend Katrina in addition to failing to meet my daily ladder goal, which I hadn't had started yet. One day, I come across Jimmy, the brother of my ex-wife, Angelina. Jimmy is a drug dealer, and he offers me a sample of a new nootropic drug, NZT-48, claiming it allows humans to access 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" 20%. I accept, and, much to my surprise, the drug does indeed work, putting me into a manic state, and enabling me to play 47 ladder games, winning almost an entire third of them.
The next day I ask for more of the drug, but when Jimmy asks me to go pick up his dry cleaning, I return to find Jimmy murdered and his apartment ransacked. I call the police and deduce that Jimmy was probably killed by someone who wanted his stash of NZT. I find the drugs, his address book, and a wad of cash just before the police arrive. Regularly taking NZT, and using Jimmies cash, I turn my life around. I had done it, I had reached the top 8 of my bronze division.
I get back together with Katrina. After hovering at position 7 in my ladder i decide to increase the dose of NZT while i ladder over 670 games in just a few days. My fame hits Reddit, but I notice they were simply mocking me. I quickly jump back into Startcraft 2 but the higher dose of NZT is causing side effects like lost time, poorly split drones and hallucinations. Depressed at my inability to focus, i go on a drinking and partying binge, and end up in a hotel room with a striking blond whos name i cannot recall. I am followed there by a man in a tan coat.
I wake up and realize I have no more NZT at my house. I hadnt laddered, but there goes my chances of winning and games anyway. I was feeling sick after my binge, and getting sicker. My ex-wife calls me and tells me she suspects I am on NZT. I plead for a face-to-face meeting, but Angelina is reluctant. I want to learn more about the side effects of the drug, so I start calling the names in Jimmy's address book. I discover that everyone listed is either dead, or in the hospital sick. While calling one of the names, I hear a phone ring, and a person sitting close by answering. It is the man in the tan coat. He chases me, and i escape and meet with Angelina. Angelina explains that the drug makes you very sick, especially if you try to go off it cold turkey. She quit 2 years earlier, and felt she was lucky to be alive, but has lost her ability to concentrate, and has become lazy. She tells me the best way is to ease off gradually, reducing the dosage over time.
I find a pill in my pocket, and head home to take it, but am apprehended by Blizzard Support, who had suspected me of purposefully losing thousands of games in order to help get that one achievement that doesn't really look as cool as it probably should. looking for my mobile authenticator, they notice the pill, and take it.
I am getting sicker as I go through withdrawal, and stumble into Katrina's office. I tell her about the drug, and that I have hidden my stash at her apartment. Seeing how sick I am, she agrees to retrieve my stash and return it to me at her office. On her way back to me, She is intercepted en route by Blizzard Support. It becomes obvious that while high, Blizzard is very dangerous. They chase Katrina, killing two men trying to help her as she flees. By phone, I convince her to take a pill as it will enable her to know what to do to survive. Doing so, she makes a bold escape. Though I am saved, Katrina is convinced that I will destroy myself because of NZT and breaks up with me again.
Blizzard realizes the effects the drug has and threatens me until I agree to give them more NZT. Because of Angelina's warnings, I manage my consumption of the drug down to an acceptable level, and hire bodyguards, and recruit a scientist to work on reverse engineering NZT.
Blizzard breaks down the door to my apartment, looking for the NZT. Blizzard explains that they are no longer ingesting the pills, but instead dissolving them in water, and injecting them. The effects hit faster, longer and improve your fire rate. While Blizzard's searching my apartment, I am shot while managing to successfully stab one of them. I am desperate for a hit as I lay beside the bleeding man. All I can do is drink the blood that is pooling beside him. Revitalized, I stab one of the psychotic blizzard employees in the eye, and trick them into shooting the other.
One year later, I had done it. Silver league mother-fucker. Blizzard offers me an unlimited supply of NZT (admitting that they both know I was headed for GM); I refuse, I no longer needed the drug. Having had the foresight to have multiple labs working on the NZT, I had refinined it so that I could quit it without experiencing side effects, while permanently retaining its mental enhancements.
Blizzard however was not so lucky, plagued by mass numbers of employees suffering from withdrawal , patch 1.4.2 is released.
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