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fox77
Canada95 Posts
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forSeohyun
504 Posts
1. Competition (between the games/companies) 2. Acceptance (is this where we are today?) 3. Parallel existence (OGN picking up SC2? proteams doing both BW&SC2?) 4. Assimilation (???) The future is still uncertain as to when these things will happen, but in my mind there is no doubt that they will. Maybe these news indicate that we are in phase 2, a prelude to things to come but we are not at phase 3 yet. | ||
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Ashworth
United Kingdom185 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:10 fox77 wrote: I don't see why star craft one players would be that good in star craft two I mean it's a different game is like saying well this guy is a good basketball player I guess he'll be just as good if not better in hockey. Besides star craft two has harder mechanics and is the better game. Not true. The most important thing BW pros have is the ability to learn and to train and that's a valuable skill that translates really well from BW to SC2. Also I think you're trolling. | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:10 fox77 wrote: I don't see why star craft one players would be that good in star craft two I mean it's a different game is like saying well this guy is a good basketball player I guess he'll be just as good if not better in hockey. The fact that almost every single current SC2 pro has a strong RTS background either in Brood War or Warcraft 3 would seem to indicate a correlation despite the fact that they may technically be different games. Besides star craft two has harder mechanics and is the better game. Good trolling there. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:10 fox77 wrote: I don't see why star craft one players would be that good in star craft two I mean it's a different game is like saying well this guy is a good basketball player I guess he'll be just as good if not better in hockey. Besides star craft two has harder mechanics and is the better game. Comparing basketball to hockey in no way ever can be related to comparing BW and SC2. It's more like badmitten and tennis if we're using sports analogies, can't think of better ones imo. Not touching that second sentence with a 30ft pole because thats troll bait. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:07 Kordox wrote: There is plenty of reason to believe it. To quote user "fr1tz" from Reddit: "It's amazing how there are still people doubting after all this. And people think Flash hasn't touched sc2 yet? On the IM stream with Hwanni translating, Nestea said Flash was playing throughout the off-season and that he is brilliant. All the bw teams are practicing sc2 now, it's just a question of how much. There are screenshots of real-ids, computers getting upgraded to run sc2 in team houses and switching to widescreen lcds, articles on fomos... they are coming." [link to comment] Most of these things have been well known for a while now. There is no reason for you to doubt at this point. You completely cleared out all doubts with posting obvious information. I guess we have real evidence now lol. About flash, hmm i think hes more interested in getting 4th OSL title rather than fool around sc2 now, whatever he does offseason is his choice really. And i could say that about ANY notable name in bw scene. Read interviews, Jangbi cannot wait for OSL stork seems pumped too, bisu ? I guess he wants his first title and so on blablabala After OSL yes maybe, who knows. Now? TOP player? You kidding me. edit: and the fact they "play" as they have accouinits and were fooling around ladder is known for months. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
If someday it actually reaches the level of perfection of BW, then and only then I would not mind high profile pros switching over and eventually putting BW to rest. And that day will be declared world's holiday, written in history books and forever remembered as the day the best game ever created left our mortal world to become the god of eSports to watch over us. I seriously doubt SC2 will ever get to BW level, so... yeah, SC2 has much more than a long road ahead, and with Dustin Browder designing it, it is going the reverse way. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
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bobsire
Canada296 Posts
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
On January 10 2012 07:45 tombola wrote: I know he won't in 40 days but damn I will be so excited when The Tyrant himself finally will make the switch to SC2, also I'm pretty stoked about everyone else switching from BW to SC2 You need to read more carefully. TBLS are considered to be S-class, and I believe FXOboss stated "A-class". Also, any players that are playing in proleague and sent into games regularly are highly unlikely to be switching in 40 days time. If anything, I would consider people that weren't picked up by teams from the teams that were disbanded. However, in recent interviews, some of them have also blatantly stated that they wouldn't be playing SC2 (Hiya, for example stated that because he got beat by ForGG playing Zerg, he wouldn't be switching). Also you have to consider people like Anytime/Backho who have been streaming BW on Afreeca. Although it is more or less just a hobby for them, I would also consider them unlikely to switch atm, coz they would be playing/practicing SC2 instead of streaming BW. (Backho especially because he retired and is studying at theological seminar). On January 10 2012 09:30 SolaR- wrote: I'll believe it when Kespa makes an official announcement, otherwise i call total bs at this moment. Yeah, you should probably look at the player rosters in the coming months. Although I don't Kespa is responsible for player's decisions themselves. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On January 09 2012 13:50 Warpath wrote: Yeah, a whole bunch of players above MVPs level at average, which means some will be even better. Mvp actually was quite the Broodwar talent, he was probably going to be very good, but he switched early | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:46 Nazza wrote: You need to read more carefully. TBLS are considered to be S-class, and I believe FXOboss stated "A-class". He said A-teamers, and S-class players are obviously A-teamers. That being said, there is no chance in hell that TBLS will switch to SC2 in 40 days. On January 10 2012 09:46 Nazza wrote: Also, any players that are playing in proleague and sent into games regularly are highly unlikely to be switching in 40 days time. If anything, I would consider people that weren't picked up by teams from the teams that were disbanded. However, in recent interviews, some of them have also blatantly stated that they wouldn't be playing SC2 (Hiya, for example stated that because he got beat by ForGG playing Zerg, he wouldn't be switching). Also you have to consider people like Anytime/Backho who have been streaming BW on Afreeca. Although it is more or less just a hobby for them, I would also consider them unlikely to switch atm, coz they would be playing/practicing SC2 instead of streaming BW. (Backho especially because he retired and is studying at theological seminar). I agree with you and this is often overlooked. I think a lot of BW players would rather quit progaming all together than switch to SC2 (I think that there are more A-teamers that have retired than switched to SC2 already). | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
Perfectman next bonjwa anyways! just saying, you people in this thread are just expecting too much, maybe cause you have the entire BW forum hidden. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
>.> <.< + Show Spoiler [fanboy-ism] + COME ON FLASH!!! GOGO SC2 FLASH YEEEAAAAAAHHHH Bisu Jaedong, YOU GUYS GOGO SC2 ALSO GOGOGOGOGOGOGOG ahem. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:55 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Mvp actually was quite the Broodwar talent, he was probably going to be very good, but he switched early For how long did he play BW before switching? | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:55 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Mvp actually was quite the Broodwar talent, he was probably going to be very good, but he switched early No, he wasn't. He was a Woongjin Terran. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
This my dear friends, is the beginning. The beginning of what will soon be the true starcraft pro scene. How can someone say such a thing? This guy has clearly never followed the BW scene. How damn frustrating it is to read ignorant statements like these. I hope I'm misunderstanding his sayings because it couldn't be more wrong. | ||
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:25 fabiano wrote: SC2 is not a worthy sucessor to BW yet. Not even close. If someday it actually reaches the level of perfection of BW, then and only then I would not mind high profile pros switching over and eventually putting BW to rest. And that day will be declared world's holiday, written in history books and forever remembered as the day the best game ever created left our mortal world to become the god of eSports to watch over us. I seriously doubt SC2 will ever get to BW level, so... yeah, SC2 has much more than a long road ahead, and with Dustin Browder designing it, it is going the reverse way. I think it comes down most to personal taste. Yeah, the BW pros are probably more professional and have a better work ethic, but I don´t think it´s accurate to say that one game is that much better than the other. In my opinion, SC2 is just a lot more entertaining than BW. Yeah, I just got in the esports scene after SC2 came out, but in the past few months I watched BW and I didn´t like it as much, even though I understand what the game did to the esports scene. In the end, it comes down a lot to personal preference, and in my opinion, taking into account the BW legacy, I think SC2 is in the right way to be a worthy sucessor to BW and is such an amazing game.  | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On January 10 2012 10:24 Nightmare-br wrote: I think it comes down most to personal taste. Yeah, the BW pros are probably more professional and have a better work ethic, but I don´t think it´s accurate to say that one game is that much better than the other. In my opinion, SC2 is just a lot more entertaining than BW. Yeah, I just got in the esports scene after SC2 came out, but in the past few months I watched BW and I didn´t like it as much, even though I understand what the game did to the esports scene. In the end, it comes down a lot to personal preference, and in my opinion, taking into account the BW legacy, I think SC2 is in the right way to be a worthy sucessor to BW and is such an amazing game. If you would have followed BW for a long time you would probably have a different opinion. The game just doesn't come down to what shows on screen, it's the difference in depth in the development of the game. And as fabiano said, Dustin Browder is the man not taking SC2 to the next level of depth where BW was. But I agree that the enjoyment comes to personal opinions, but everyone knows (even SC2 pros) that BW is much more complex and a well developed game and I'm sure you've already heard about it since all the threads talking about both BW and SC2 comes down to that argument lol. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On January 10 2012 10:36 Essbee wrote: If you would have followed BW for a long time you would probably have a different opinion. The game just doesn't come down to what shows on screen, it's the difference in depth in the development of the game. And as fabiano said, Dustin Browder is the man not taking SC2 to the next level of depth where BW was. But I agree that the enjoyment comes to personal opinions, but everyone knows (even SC2 pros) that BW is much more complex and a well developed game and I'm sure you've already heard about it since all the threads talking about both BW and SC2 comes down to that argument lol. It's very unfair to expect a year old game to have the depth of a 13 year old game. I'm not saying Sc2 will reach the depth of Brood War, maybe it will or won't but you absolutely can't expect it at this stage. | ||
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