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On January 09 2012 21:03 Leetley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 20:56 Toppp wrote: People are acting like this is new knowledge.. come on this has been known. Most of the "information" has been rumors or believes. It's announcements like these that are way more opening.
This is just as much rumors as the other rumors were...
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On January 09 2012 21:06 mnck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 21:03 Leetley wrote:On January 09 2012 20:56 Toppp wrote: People are acting like this is new knowledge.. come on this has been known. Most of the "information" has been rumors or believes. It's announcements like these that are way more opening. This is just as much rumors as the other rumors were... "A wittle bwirdy told me..."
Yeah, I quess. Sorry about not reading the OP that well.
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On January 09 2012 19:57 bmml wrote: People need to understand that there is no reason Kespa players would start playing in GOM run leagues, I mean fuck they arent even on TV and it seems as though GOM is basically living off of foreign subscriptions (and treating us the worst, go figure). That isn't what these big sponsors in Kespa pay for, if they move over I assume they'll have their own league running alongside their proleague / OSL shows.
Kespa players have licenses for being starcraft 1 progamers for kespa (which is the sickest pain in the ass for blizz btw since they don't get any money from kespA), if they'd switch they would no longer be kespa players, you know like every bw pro that has switched thus far has no longer any buisness with kespa. GOM is a tv channel in korea, you know gomtv, go to gomtv.com and check out the korean site which features a lot more than just the gsl. The only thing about the gsl that lifes of foreigner subscriptions is the foreigner production, and the current stream quality is the quality it is because thats how much the current subscription are able to pay for. GOM has exclusive sc2 rights for I think atleast this year, or maybe just half of it. And even though blizz invited some bw pros to blizzcon to show them how big sc2 is in the foreign scene atm, all the shit that happened between kespa and blizz kinda makes me believe that if kespa will ever host sc2 competitions, it will atleast be in a corporation between kespa, gom and blizzard.
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oGs.SAviOr

Dont think that any of them will switch cause the big money is still in BW.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On January 09 2012 21:34 LayZRR wrote:oGs.SAviOr Dont think that any of them will switch cause the big money is still in BW.
lol no.
why can't people let go he can never compete again. NEVER!
On January 09 2012 21:32 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 19:57 bmml wrote: People need to understand that there is no reason Kespa players would start playing in GOM run leagues, I mean fuck they arent even on TV and it seems as though GOM is basically living off of foreign subscriptions (and treating us the worst, go figure). That isn't what these big sponsors in Kespa pay for, if they move over I assume they'll have their own league running alongside their proleague / OSL shows. Kespa players have licenses for being starcraft 1 progamers for kespa (which is the sickest pain in the ass for blizz btw since they don't get any money from kespA), if they'd switch they would no longer be kespa players, you know like every bw pro that has switched thus far has no longer any buisness with kespa. GOM is a tv channel in korea, you know gom tv, go to gomtv.com and check out the korean site which features a lot more than just the gsl. The only thing about the gsl that lifes of foreigner subscriptions is the foreigner production, and the current stream quality is the quality it is because thats how much the current subscription are able to pay for. GOM has exclusive sc2 rights for I think atleast this year, or maybe just half of it. And even though blizz invited some bw pros to blizzcon to show them how big sc2 is in the foreign scene atm, all the shit that happened between kespa and blizz kinda makes me believe that if kespa will ever host sc2 competitions, it will atleast be in a corporation between kespa, gom and blizzard.
Gom is not a tv channel at all its an internet streaming service.
their exclusive rights expires in may I believe.
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On January 09 2012 21:32 Lorch wrote: if kespa will ever host sc2 competitions, it will atleast be in a corporation between kespa, ogn and blizzard. fixed for you. gom has no chance.
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damn, these bw korean pros are gonna be hitting a sick-ass timing in SC2 eSports history!
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Since it's FXOBoss who wrote it, it's probably real. But I don't think it'll be a mass exodus like people are expecting. At least nothing that would hit the BW scene hard.
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On January 09 2012 20:50 RelZo wrote: LOL @ ppl thinking that ex-A teamers (A TEAMERS!!!) won't totally dominate the SC2 scene. And no, current A-teamers won't switch, proleague is too competitive right now. It is not quaranteed succes if you were a-teamer in brood war, it just means that you have higher chance of succes than lets say b-teamers
There is many b-teamers who kinda dominate the scene and many b-teamers who fail at the competition. There is just too much variance. This is why bw-succes does not automatically grant you great succes at sc2, it just means that probably it is somewhat higher probability.
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On January 09 2012 21:45 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 20:50 RelZo wrote: LOL @ ppl thinking that ex-A teamers (A TEAMERS!!!) won't totally dominate the SC2 scene. And no, current A-teamers won't switch, proleague is too competitive right now. It is not quaranteed succes if you were a-teamer in brood war, it just means that you have higher chance of succes than lets say b-teamers There is many b-teamers who kinda dominate the scene and many b-teamers who fail at the competition. There is just too much variance. This is why bw-succes does not automatically grant you great succes at sc2, it just means that probably it is somewhat higher probability. Many B-teamers fail at competition, not a-timers.
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It seems like these are just rumors... and now much evidence lol.
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On January 09 2012 21:55 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 21:45 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On January 09 2012 20:50 RelZo wrote: LOL @ ppl thinking that ex-A teamers (A TEAMERS!!!) won't totally dominate the SC2 scene. And no, current A-teamers won't switch, proleague is too competitive right now. It is not quaranteed succes if you were a-teamer in brood war, it just means that you have higher chance of succes than lets say b-teamers There is many b-teamers who kinda dominate the scene and many b-teamers who fail at the competition. There is just too much variance. This is why bw-succes does not automatically grant you great succes at sc2, it just means that probably it is somewhat higher probability. Many B-teamers fail at competition, not a-timers. what is the evidence you are basing this statement to? and how many ex-a-teamers there is in sc2 scene?
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On January 09 2012 21:32 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 19:57 bmml wrote: People need to understand that there is no reason Kespa players would start playing in GOM run leagues, I mean fuck they arent even on TV and it seems as though GOM is basically living off of foreign subscriptions (and treating us the worst, go figure). That isn't what these big sponsors in Kespa pay for, if they move over I assume they'll have their own league running alongside their proleague / OSL shows. Kespa players have licenses for being starcraft 1 progamers for kespa (which is the sickest pain in the ass for blizz btw since they don't get any money from kespA), if they'd switch they would no longer be kespa players, you know like every bw pro that has switched thus far has no longer any buisness with kespa. GOM is a tv channel in korea, you know gom tv, go to gomtv.com and check out the korean site which features a lot more than just the gsl. The only thing about the gsl that lifes of foreigner subscriptions is the foreigner production, and the current stream quality is the quality it is because thats how much the current subscription are able to pay for. GOM has exclusive sc2 rights for I think atleast this year, or maybe just half of it. And even though blizz invited some bw pros to blizzcon to show them how big sc2 is in the foreign scene atm, all the shit that happened between kespa and blizz kinda makes me believe that if kespa will ever host sc2 competitions, it will atleast be in a corporation between kespa, gom and blizzard.
Kespa is an organisation built up of the various powerful entities in pro broodwar, CJ, KT, SKT etc etc they are the teams - they own the players. a BW pro wouldn't drop a dedicated income and such a solidified and glamorous position in a REAL proteam sponsored by the biggest corporations in their country on a whim. What you don't seem to understand is that Kespa = teams = players, if they didn't want to be kespa players they wouldn't be in a BW proteam. GOMtv is an online streaming service for music/video/games, it is NOT a TV station just like say Vice isn't a TV station.
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If Effort comes over I will switch back to zerg.
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This my friends mean that all the foreigner hopes are lost at the very same minute when the big guns sit down and start playin this game for real.
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The androids are coming!! Basically what theyre saying lol im excited to see whos coming over
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On January 09 2012 21:45 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 20:50 RelZo wrote: LOL @ ppl thinking that ex-A teamers (A TEAMERS!!!) won't totally dominate the SC2 scene. And no, current A-teamers won't switch, proleague is too competitive right now. It is not quaranteed succes if you were a-teamer in brood war, it just means that you have higher chance of succes than lets say b-teamersThere is many b-teamers who kinda dominate the scene and many b-teamers who fail at the competition. There is just too much variance. This is why bw-succes does not automatically grant you great succes at sc2, it just means that probably it is somewhat higher probability.
Face it. SC2 scene is dominated by ex-Brood War players who were good at it. It's not about chance, it about time. Success is absolutely guaranteed and the question you should be asking is not "Will they succeed?" but "How long will it take them to takeover the current 'Good' SC2 players when the 'Good' BW players switch?".
Also, regarding the title: 'Top'? Hardly believable. Any 'Top' BW progamer would be crazy to switch to SC2 now.
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On January 09 2012 21:32 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 19:57 bmml wrote: People need to understand that there is no reason Kespa players would start playing in GOM run leagues, I mean fuck they arent even on TV and it seems as though GOM is basically living off of foreign subscriptions (and treating us the worst, go figure). That isn't what these big sponsors in Kespa pay for, if they move over I assume they'll have their own league running alongside their proleague / OSL shows. Kespa players have licenses for being starcraft 1 progamers for kespa (which is the sickest pain in the ass for blizz btw since they don't get any money from kespA), if they'd switch they would no longer be kespa players, you know like every bw pro that has switched thus far has no longer any buisness with kespa. GOM is a tv channel in korea, you know gom tv, go to gomtv.com and check out the korean site which features a lot more than just the gsl. The only thing about the gsl that lifes of foreigner subscriptions is the foreigner production, and the current stream quality is the quality it is because thats how much the current subscription are able to pay for. GOM has exclusive sc2 rights for I think atleast this year, or maybe just half of it. And even though blizz invited some bw pros to blizzcon to show them how big sc2 is in the foreign scene atm, all the shit that happened between kespa and blizz kinda makes me believe that if kespa will ever host sc2 competitions, it will atleast be in a corporation between kespa, gom and blizzard.
Not just on GOMTV, GSL is also shown on AniBOX as well as Channel1. We can also watch the VODs from olleh TV.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Flash is obviously switching, he's like the only ¨top player remaining in BW!
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