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Top Broodwar Pros swapping to Starcraft 2? - Page 13

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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 13:53:26
January 09 2012 13:53 GMT
#241
They will just pick the retired guys like Ruby or some no names. Hardly a switch lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
January 09 2012 13:56 GMT
#242
the pro scene will look very different in a few months, if foreigners thought it was hard now, jesus, the tidal wave is coming
Kaien
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium178 Posts
January 09 2012 13:58 GMT
#243
why does evryone think that hen bw pro players will switch they will be above mvp and nestea?
it took forGG 8 monts to become as good as he is now.

if they swap they will probably be as good as Grubby and Moon.

And dont bother arguing cuz there is no way you can tell for sure
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 09 2012 13:59 GMT
#244
On January 09 2012 21:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:34 LayZRR wrote:
oGs.SAviOr


Dont think that any of them will switch cause the big money is still in BW.


lol no.

why can't people let go he can never compete again. NEVER!



Because in all of us, we know it's such a waste that such a talent can't play anymore TT
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
January 09 2012 14:02 GMT
#245
This again? These "A-teamers" who are supposedly "only" practicing SC2 would not be getting anywhere in Proleague.

Total bullshit. Maybe a few b-teamers will switch but it won't be like Boss is saying.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 09 2012 14:02 GMT
#246
You guys and your tabloids.

The end is coming.
ikona
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland47 Posts
January 09 2012 14:10 GMT
#247
Korean sc2 scene is so tiny though (hi there GOM exclusive deal). What is the incentive for big names to switch?
Fallians
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 14:11:58
January 09 2012 14:11 GMT
#248
To people saying they are different games, I dont think anyone can make the claim that the BW pros will just immediately come to the sc2 scene and dominate but what we can safely say is that they will bring over their work ethic and innovation with the game. For example two of the best sc2 pro's right now weren't immediately amazing it took awhile but now they dominate everyone, and MVP was just barely an A teamer.
If you attack before 15minutes.. It's cheese....
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 09 2012 14:18 GMT
#249
On January 09 2012 22:58 Kaien wrote:
why does evryone think that hen bw pro players will switch they will be above mvp and nestea?
it took forGG 8 monts to become as good as he is now.

if they swap they will probably be as good as Grubby and Moon.

And dont bother arguing cuz there is no way you can tell for sure

it took not even 2 months for hyun to get into code a
Stork[gm]
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 09 2012 14:19 GMT
#250
On January 09 2012 16:47 Megaliskuu wrote:
SC2 cant be dominated because there is a lot more "silly" shit that can happen, in addition the dumbed down mechanics.

Terrible news either way.

Meh sadly, but true... Last GSL champion out in first round this GSL.... y0
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 09 2012 14:20 GMT
#251
On January 09 2012 23:19 Tomken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 16:47 Megaliskuu wrote:
SC2 cant be dominated because there is a lot more "silly" shit that can happen, in addition the dumbed down mechanics.

Terrible news either way.

Meh sadly, but true... Last GSL champion out in first round this GSL.... y0

check again :p
Stork[gm]
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 09 2012 14:20 GMT
#252
On January 09 2012 17:31 lFrost wrote:
if the details in boss' post are correct then i doubt the bw pros switching over are ones that have played a proleague match this season. no bw team would seed any A teamer out in proleague that hasnt been practicing sc1 for the last couple months. so the people he is talking about are probably some a-teamers for the 3 bw teams that recently disbanded: FOX, OZ, MBC. so maybe (P)Pure, (Z)Saint, (T)RuBy, (P)Pusan, (T)major, (T)HiyA, (P)PerfectMan?


WeMadeFox gonna make sc2 team harhar..
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 14:23:32
January 09 2012 14:22 GMT
#253
On January 09 2012 23:20 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 23:19 Tomken wrote:
On January 09 2012 16:47 Megaliskuu wrote:
SC2 cant be dominated because there is a lot more "silly" shit that can happen, in addition the dumbed down mechanics.

Terrible news either way.

Meh sadly, but true... Last GSL champion out in first round this GSL.... y0

check again :p

lol, dno... I saw (T)Jjakji losing to a protoss from a thread yday meh fail sry.

Edit: ah it was the KSL... kk
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 14:23:25
January 09 2012 14:22 GMT
#254
On January 09 2012 22:34 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:45 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:50 RelZo wrote:
LOL @ ppl thinking that ex-A teamers (A TEAMERS!!!) won't totally dominate the SC2 scene. And no, current A-teamers won't switch, proleague is too competitive right now.

It is not quaranteed succes if you were a-teamer in brood war, it just means that you have higher chance of succes than lets say b-teamers

There is many b-teamers who kinda dominate the scene and many b-teamers who fail at the competition. There is just too much variance. This is why bw-succes does not automatically grant you great succes at sc2, it just means that probably it is somewhat higher probability.


Face it. SC2 scene is dominated by ex-Brood War players who were good at it. It's not about chance, it about time. Success is absolutely guaranteed and the question you should be asking is not "Will they succeed?" but "How long will it take them to takeover the current 'Good' SC2 players when the 'Good' BW players switch?".

Also, regarding the title: 'Top'? Hardly believable. Any 'Top' BW progamer would be crazy to switch to SC2 now.

I would not call most of ex-bw players careers very "succes", but mediocre and many of them are very bad aswell.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 09 2012 14:22 GMT
#255
I hope this is true
Vandal
Profile Joined January 2009
United States138 Posts
January 09 2012 14:23 GMT
#256
I hope this is why Team 8 has been doing so terribly, I would love to see Jaedong switch.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 09 2012 14:26 GMT
#257
On January 09 2012 21:41 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:32 Lorch wrote:
if kespa will ever host sc2 competitions, it will atleast be in a corporation between kespa, ogn and blizzard.

fixed for you. gom has no chance.


Why not?
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
January 09 2012 14:29 GMT
#258
Would only be great if the community merged in to one. The less split there is the higher the level will be.
Sad for some of the BW fan boys but SC2 can gain the same level of skill if the pro's challenge eachother enough to force new levels. You can already see a huge difference between sc2 now and 1 year ago. I expect major new influx of former BW pro's at HOTS not really before though, there is too much strategy too learn to have success that quickly I think.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 09 2012 14:34 GMT
#259
On January 09 2012 23:18 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 22:58 Kaien wrote:
why does evryone think that hen bw pro players will switch they will be above mvp and nestea?
it took forGG 8 monts to become as good as he is now.

if they swap they will probably be as good as Grubby and Moon.

And dont bother arguing cuz there is no way you can tell for sure

it took not even 2 months for hyun to get into code a


On top of that, forGG never even tried to qualify for GSL till recently. He was that good for a while now
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 09 2012 14:39 GMT
#260
fOrGG and MVP were the two best when they switched over (I guess PuMa as well), and they've done extremely well so far. The entire level of professional SC2 will increase if active A-teamers start switching over regularly.
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