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This is probably a stupid question, but I am pretty sure it hasn’t been asked before. I did use the search function and didn’t manage to come across anything along these lines. I do apologize if there is a thread discussing this particular scenario, and I just manage to miss it. I also wasn’t quite sure if this was more technical in nature, but felt like this was the more appropriate thread because it had to do specifically with SC2.
Background info:
I have a Sensei and before that the Xai. I love the mouse and I’ve spent the last year and half practicing with a 450CPI/DPI with the in-game sensitivity shut off. No accel, 6/11, 100% scroll speed and a 25" monitor. I have a huge mouse pad, and I come from the FPS world. I always set up my mouse sensitivity where I can go from left to right without lifting up my mouse or hand to ensure it barely touches the left side of the screen to the right i.e. a perfect 180 in the FPS world. However, as I get better (my first RTS game ever), I’m finding that I am having difficulty screen scrolling because I have to lift up my entire hand and jerk it drastically to get to the side of the screen and scroll. So if I’m in the middle of a battle and have to micro I fumble around trying to screen scroll which takes away from my micro.
Question:
Now my mouse works in 90 increment intervals so the next one up is 540. So the question is, do I relearn all my muscle memory that I just spent a year and half learning for better map control/scroll? Or should I just learn to deal with it? Is it extremely important the higher up you get to be able to move around the screen quickly? Or do some of you maybe use drag scroll with the mouse wheel?
If you are a low DPI player like me (and higher up in the ranks) how important is it to be able to scroll around the map quickly vs. precision? Right I’m to the point where I can literally rally back my scv to the mineral patch with my eyes closed because it is so engrained into my muscle memory. I hate to have to relearn that if it’s not necessary…
Thanks for your help even if it is a silly question that I’m sure most of you haven’t given a lot of thought about  I just so badly want to be good at this game. It's the first game in my life that even after a year and half playing I still feel like I'll be playing it until I'm 50. That's if Dec 21, 2012 doesn't get us..lol
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You can increase screen scroll speed without increasing mouse sensitivity.
Menu -> Options -> Controls: Mouse Scroll Speed. Just bump that up as necessary. Shouldn't be an extremely drastic change.
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On January 07 2012 02:06 Phantom09 wrote:
You can increase screen scroll speed without increasing mouse sensitivity.
Menu -> Options -> Controls: Mouse Scroll Speed. Just bump that up as necessary. Shouldn't be an extremely drastic change.
I probably should have put that in the post, but my screen speed is at 100%. The problem I find is because I can barely touch the sides of the screen now with my low dpi. So in order to scroll I have to lift my hand and arm, which is a pain when you are in the middle of micro.
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Although my problem wasn't as complicated as yours regarding playing as FPS as well as SC2, I think I can safely say that I can't play SC2 nearly as well with my "FPS mouse speed" as opposed to my "SC2 mouse speed". I used to do the same thing you did and tried playing SC2 with a ridiculously slow mouse speed that I used for FPS's. Eventually I decided to up the sensitivity a little bit, but just enough for it to allow me to have full control when I played SC2. Sure, playing FPS was a little harder but at that point I played more SC2 than FPS's anyways. My advice, try upping the sensitivity just a tad and try to get used to that, it'll help you in SC2 I guarentee it.
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On January 07 2012 02:06 Phantom09 wrote:
You can increase screen scroll speed without increasing mouse sensitivity.
Menu -> Options -> Controls: Mouse Scroll Speed. Just bump that up as necessary. Shouldn't be an extremely drastic change.
He still has to drag his mouse all the way to the edge of his screen, which I believe is the root of this problem (it takes too long because of his low sensitivity).
I'd say since you are clearly experiencing problems with your current sensitivity, increase it and adapt. I use 1400 DPI on a Razer Lachesis myself.
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I had the same problem in the beginning, used to extremely low sens from fps games. Just turning up the sens quite abit and getting used to it fixed the problem for me in SC2.
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I’m finding that I am having difficulty screen scrolling because I have to lift up my entire hand and jerk it drastically to get to the side of the screen and scroll. So if I’m in the middle of a battle and have to micro I fumble around trying to screen scroll which takes away from my micro.
I was going to say it's okay to play at lowish sensitivities in SC2, but by the sound of this description you could probably benefit from raising it up a bit.
In general I'd advise against screen scrolling unless the distance is really short. It's easier, and also a better habit, to navigate across the map via hotkeys and clicking on the minimap.
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My mouse moves about 1/2 inch in either direction, max. Arm movements and palm grip are for FPS. RTS is about the finger grip, and precise tiny movements.
Technically it's personal preference, but it's more effective of course. Lifting your hand at any point in time is a no-no. I think high sensitivity is extremely important. There's very little trade-off in terms of accuracy or precision. Even with high sensitivity i can do everything correctly.
As for moving screen, you shouldn't use the arrow keys or drag scrolling. Always use the minimap to move around, or location hotkeys. Hitting the side of the screen to move around is only for slight movements of half a screen length or so. Anything else, use minimap and hotkeys.
Some pros use arrow keys and pan scrolling and palm grip etc, though, but i think everyone agrees they are hindering themselves.
And don't worry, you'll get used to it faster than you think.
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I use a lower sensitivity on FPS games, and a much higher sensitivity in Starcraft, not sure the exact dpi but I would definitely recommend putting it up a notch.
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@Everyone - Thank you guys! As always very helpful. I'm starting to agree. I think long term, I'm going to benefit more with a slightly higher DPI even though in the short term it's going to be a pain in the butt. I just don't want to relearn it damn it..lol but in the end it's probably going to be better.
@Jojo - Agreed. I actually do use my minimap and hotkeys quite a bit...Where I get hung up is the micro battles (terran kiting) and when I'm in my main. Otherwise, I'm pretty good about using hotkeys.
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I used to play on a really low DPI like that, but I bought a Deathadder about 6 months ago and have played at 3500 DPI since.
I don't change my in game sensitivity or anything.
Honestly it only took about 4-5 days to really get the hang out it, and I played sc1 on that low DPI for 6 years before hand.
Playing on 3500 was the best switch I've ever made
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Just raise it and re-learn muscle memory etc. The Xai and the Sensai both have hardware level acceleration so your muscle memory wont be that solid anyway. What grip are you using?
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On January 07 2012 02:19 LovE- wrote:I used to play on a really low DPI like that, but I bought a Deathadder about 6 months ago and have played at 3500 DPI since. I don't change my in game sensitivity or anything. Honestly it only took about 4-5 days to really get the hang out it, and I played sc1 on that low DPI for 6 years before hand. Playing on 3500 was the best switch I've ever made
Really? Thank you, that's pretty encouraging. I'm of the mindset that if it's going to be better for me in the long run, then I should just do it and it sounds like the general consensus is it will.
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On January 07 2012 02:23 p1cKLes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 02:19 LovE- wrote:I used to play on a really low DPI like that, but I bought a Deathadder about 6 months ago and have played at 3500 DPI since. I don't change my in game sensitivity or anything. Honestly it only took about 4-5 days to really get the hang out it, and I played sc1 on that low DPI for 6 years before hand. Playing on 3500 was the best switch I've ever made Really? Thank you, that's pretty encouraging. I'm of the mindset that if it's going to be better for me in the long run, then I should just do it and it sounds like the general consensus is it will.
Dont jump to 3500... pretty stupid, you can play just fine and with far greater accuracy/precision on lower sens settings... Im fine playing for 10+ hours @6/11 800dpi without accel etc, and pretty much anyone who actuly micro's at all plays at similar settings. Switching from 3200 to 800 was the best switch i made, in contrast (and lower for FPS).
+ Show Spoiler + IdrA plays low sens, not exactly sure how low, but it makes extremely obvious improvements to everything if you can control the mouse properly.
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On January 07 2012 02:23 Cyro wrote:
Just raise it and re-learn muscle memory etc. The Xai and the Sensai both have hardware level acceleration so your muscle memory wont be that solid anyway. What grip are you using?
Yea, I know there's a 5% accel with the sensor they use, but funny enough I can't really tell with the sensei as much as I could with the xai. I heard they did a small firmware update to the sensor to help the problem (not confirmed).
I use a mild version of the claw grip.
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On January 07 2012 02:27 p1cKLes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 02:23 Cyro wrote:
Just raise it and re-learn muscle memory etc. The Xai and the Sensai both have hardware level acceleration so your muscle memory wont be that solid anyway. What grip are you using? Yea, I know there's a 5% accel with the sensor they use, but funny enough I can't really tell with the sensei as much as I could with the xai. I heard they did a small firmware update to the sensor to help the problem (not confirmed). I use a mild version of the claw grip.
They market positive AND negative acceleration as a feature of the Sensai, i wouldnt touch it with a 5ft stick
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@Cyro - That's such a ridiculous split..lol No, obviously I wouldn't jump that high. I'm thinking just a little bit. Enough to be able to make fine screen scroll movements without lifting my hand.
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On January 07 2012 02:30 p1cKLes wrote:
@Cyro - That's such a ridiculous split..lol No, obviously I wouldn't jump that high. I'm thinking just a little bit. Enough to be able to make fine screen scroll movements without lifting my hand.
600-800 is a good window for that, i do think 450 is too low as well to play for extended periods of time
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There's no right or wrong w/ mouse sensitivity! There are pros who have fairly low sensitivity and move their whole arm around actively (not just wrists and fingers!). Others, including myself, use very high sensitivity with great accuracy. (I recently dropped my sensitivity ab it due to an injury  .)
Make sure that whatever you do feels comfortable for you! If you find yourself having a very difficult time scrolling to the edges of the screen, try to adjust the sensitivity to something that feels good for that task. Then, relearn other control problems (such as having trouble right clicking on small units accurately). You'll be surprised to find your brain becomes comfortable w/ new sensitivities very quickly .
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so you move your whole arm the length of your huge mouse pad to go across your screen? Yikes dood that sounds kind of low imo
I can move my death adder maybe 2-3 inches to go across my 24 in monitor. (44% in game and 3500dpi)
More importantly though if you are actually trying to play at a high level (like above mid masters or so) you really shouldn't be scrolling at all. Control groups, camera caps, and mini map clicking are all more efficient than scrolling
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I find 1200-2200 to be the best range due to a hand injury (used to play 2900, but 1800 offers the best accuracy-to-stress payoff for me), but Day9 says it best. As someone else said, its about finger movements for me, keeping arm movement to a minimum.
EDIT:...now that I think about it, if you used fingermovement for RTS, going with something like 1600-2200 DPI, you're practically training different muscles. It may make transitioning from your FPS settings to RTS and back only take a mindset switch, instead of retraining your brain, since you're using different muscles. Like, if your FPS memory is a saved file, instead of saving over it, you save your RTS memory in a new location -- the finger-focused movements!
Ha ha ha, maybe.
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On January 07 2012 02:38 stokes17 wrote:
so you move your whole arm the length of your huge mouse pad to go across your screen? Yikes dood that sounds kind of low imo
I can move my death adder maybe 2-3 inches to go across my 24 in monitor. (44% in game and 3500dpi)
More importantly though if you are actually trying to play at a high level (like above mid masters or so) you really shouldn't be scrolling at all. Control groups, camera caps, and mini map clicking are all more efficient than scrolling
This too, theres a program that records mouse movement into an image (a black line following cursor movement) that is very useful, but generally you can play without scrolling to the side of the screen very much, you can also hold down the scroll wheel and move mouse to move camera around as well if you just want to move a little bit, but it is still important to be able to scroll if you have to do so (or even be able to reach the minimap easily to click on it somewhere)
Also, it is an honor to post in the same thread as you Day9 (:
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On January 07 2012 02:37 Day[9] wrote:There's no right or wrong w/ mouse sensitivity! There are pros who have fairly low sensitivity and move their whole arm around actively (not just wrists and fingers!). Others, including myself, use very high sensitivity with great accuracy. (I recently dropped my sensitivity ab it due to an injury .) Make sure that whatever you do feels comfortable for you! If you find yourself having a very difficult time scrolling to the edges of the screen, try to adjust the sensitivity to something that feels good for that task. Then, relearn other control problems (such as having trouble right clicking on small units accurately). You'll be surprised to find your brain becomes comfortable w/ new sensitivities very quickly .
Day9? “The” day9? I feel like I’m underdressed for such a great occasion…lol Big fan! You are just so damn handsome (in the most non-gay way of course)..lol
Thanks you for the advice! I’m convinced. I’m going to raise my settings just a tad so I can get to the edges of the screen better and then just relearn accuracy. I think in the long term it’s going to be better for my game.
Thanks everyone!
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On January 07 2012 02:41 FoxyMayhem wrote:
I find 1200-2200 to be the best range due to a hand injury (used to play 2900, but 1800 offers the best accuracy-to-stress payoff for me), but Day9 says it best. As someone else said, its about finger movements for me, keeping arm movement to a minimum.
EDIT:...now that I think about it, if you used fingermovement for RTS, going with something like 1600-2200 DPI, you're practically training different muscles. It may make transitioning from your FPS settings to RTS and back only take a mindset switch, instead of retraining your brain, since you're using different muscles. Like, if your FPS memory is a saved file, instead of saving over it, you save your RTS memory in a new location -- the finger-focused movements!
Ha ha ha, maybe.
I was a semi-pro cs player, who used his large portion of the arm to move mouse on low sensitivity, switching to rtses was one of the most painful learning experience, i used to have different sensitivites pad/mouse/keyobard/chair position every 2 days, now im forcing myself into 1 position that ecnourages mostly wrist movements, i lost uncountable matches because of "uneasy" constrained feeling, but slowly im getting better at it. Whenever you do a switch or force yourself into position you/ your body is not familiar with it becomes really long way, but in the end its better.
I watched many video data on pros hand positioning on keyboard / mouse (mostly bw ones) and i have to say it varies. It also varies depending on your desk mousepad and chair, even monitor distance is a big difference. But i noticed that 90% of bw pros has the same mousepad keyobard pattern which is keyboard slightly further than mouse and mouse on the right so they dont "bend" their hand on mouse whenever they need to reach something (when your mouse in closer to the center of your body you end up with slightly bent to the left hand, i used to have it like that because it felt "better" at the beginning but i noticed its kinda bad because i moved my mouse pad to much. As i was supporting more waight on my hand and moved mousepad with it). Yes im weird :D
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In my opinion, you should use the highest sensitivity at which you can be accurate with mouse clicks.
Obviously, being inaccurate is going to cause huge inefficiencies. But at the same time, moving your hand large distances takes more time.
If you want to do the most in the smallest amount of time, you have to move the mouse the least distance while being accurate. Think about it, marine splits are just not something you can effectively do with such a low sensitivity. Micro must be incredibly tough. I've always been an RTS/RPG gamer with FPS on the side, so I've always played my FPS at the same settings.
But, if you're gonna switch, you're gonna lose for a while.
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Does it really take you that long to get used to a new sensitivity? I can set it to whatever and I'll be fine in a couple of days tops. Just use whatever feels comfy and doesn't impair your speed too much (or injure you lol), there's no "right" method.
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turn your mouse sensitivity up by like 1% each day. It won't be such a learning curve then.
You can turn it up or down by whatever amount you want by messing with registry keys even if your driver forces it to be in certain increments. Or you can just do it in SC2 if its not already at 100%.
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I think you are going for the wrong setting. Going from left to right of the screen is not the setting you should be looking for, as it provides no benefit to RTS games. The setting you want is the one that lets you select precise small units with a high level of accuracy and quick movements.
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On January 07 2012 02:27 p1cKLes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 02:23 Cyro wrote:
Just raise it and re-learn muscle memory etc. The Xai and the Sensai both have hardware level acceleration so your muscle memory wont be that solid anyway. What grip are you using? Yea, I know there's a 5% accel with the sensor they use, but funny enough I can't really tell with the sensei as much as I could with the xai. I heard they did a small firmware update to the sensor to help the problem (not confirmed) ...
Maybe you don't trigger the acceleration of the Sensei, because you stay under a certain movement speed (see here).
On January 07 2012 02:31 Cyro wrote:
600-800 is a good window for that, i do think 450 is too low as well to play for extended periods of time
I think 600-800 is indeed a good window. But I guess it is difficult to say, as the size of your hands is a factor (so maybe the window is 400-1200? (on a 1920x1080 resolution)). Anyways, I think it's safe to say that someone using a mouse at 11400 CPI (hello Sensei) on a 1920x1080 Screen cannot possibly be any good.
On January 07 2012 02:46 p1cKLes wrote:
I’m going to raise my settings just a tad so I can get to the edges of the screen better and then just relearn accuracy. I think in the long term it’s going to be better for my game.
I tried using 450 CPI on a 1600x1200 screen for a short while, but I experienced the same problems as you did. As Day9 already said, your brain should become comfortable with a new sensitivity setting quite fast. So how is the 540 CPI working out for you?
On February 01 2012 22:26 Felnarion wrote:
In my opinion, you should use the highest sensitivity at which you can be accurate with mouse clicks.
Obviously, being inaccurate is going to cause huge inefficiencies. But at the same time, moving your hand large distances takes more time.
If you want to do the most in the smallest amount of time, you have to move the mouse the least distance while being accurate. Think about it, marine splits are just not something you can effectively do with such a low sensitivity. Micro must be incredibly tough. I've always been an RTS/RPG gamer with FPS on the side, so I've always played my FPS at the same settings.
In my opinion, one should use the lowest sensitivity at which one can be fast enough with one's mouse movement.
The reason for this: the faster your mouse is (the more CPI you run it with), the more difficult it is to aim precisely. If you do have a mouse which runs at 3000 CPI you won't be able to aim at a small target as fast as someone which runs his mouse at 1000 CPI. The result: the 3000 CPI player loses his speed advantage (at least in part). The one exception: the level of needed precision is so low, that it can be easily achieved with even a very high CPI setting. But I don't think this is true for SC 2. Just take a look at Idra cloning in that video Cyro posted.
Maybe you could argue, that using 1400 CPI instead of 1000 CPI makes you faster, while still enabling you to be precise enough in SC 2. Maybe that is true. There is another factor though: Another result of high CPI values is, that they are stressfull to your hand. I will quote an excellent post made by MisterFred on overclock.net, which explains this:
"When I'm talking about micro-movements its generally a problem for very high sensitivity users attempting high precision tasks. Moving your hand a centimeter is not a micro-motion. Moving your hand a fraction of a millimeter is. It doesn't have a ton to do with mouse shape or grip, although I would guess claw grippers might be a tad more susceptible too it (moving the mouse with shifts of the finger rather than moving the entire hand while the grip remains steady? I don't claw grip). Basically, if a small motion is still difficult, it's bad. Essentially the reason is that if you're trying hard to point the mouse exactly where it needs to be, your hand will generally tense up (and often stay tensed up). With a continuously tensed hand shifting ever so slightly very often, it's a recipe for repetitive stress syndromes.
I'm not the most eloquent person, so I'll use the example I like best: minesweeper. Take a gaming mouse, set it to some ridiculously high DPI (let's say 5000 - 3200 is enough for me to notice) and try to play minesweeper on the large board. For most people, it's really freaking hard. They'll keep over-shooting or under-shooting boxes because fine muscle control is quite hard. To compensate, most people will instinctively grip their mouse harder and keep it gripped very hard whenever they move the mouse. Eventually you realize you've been white-knuckle gripping the mouse the entire game of minesweeper and your hand is really tired. Much more tired, in fact, than if you used a lower DPI and moved the mouse far more in total difference, but in a more relaxed manner. That's an extreme example, but it illustrates the concept well.
On the other end of the spectrum, set the DPI as low as it can go and even the windows sensitivity down. Big, sweeping gestures are needed to get the cursor from one end of the computer screen to the other, but stopping on any one individual pixel (or minesweeper box) is, relatively, much easier. And even if your arm is working harder, your hand is much more relaxed.
So if you're trying out various DPI settings, I'd recommend playing minesweeper for half an hour or so (when its feeling healthy, don't stress it if its not, lol, get off the computer) and seeing if your hand gets tired. If it does, the sensitivity (or, I suppose, mouse shape) is too high. Dial down the DPI, try again a few hours later, and your hand will probably feel much less tired."
tl;dr: The optimal mouse sensitivity for SC 2 should be set as low as possible and should enable you to play comfortably (e. g. not frantically having to lift off your mouse every few seconds).
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Yes. Too high of a sensitivity leads to over gripping. Over gripping leads injury.
Although rather than saying that one should pick the least sensitive DPI they can use to perform the fastest motion. I prefer to use the MOST sensitive DPI i can use and still handle the SMALLEST detailed motion.
I want speed, but I will never give up my very pristine smalltime movements.
Also just to expound on what people have been saying. Changing sensitivity only works if you are adjusting DPI. Changing it any other way is inferior and no matter how much practice you put in you will never undo this.
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i suggest u learn to play the game with the keyboard like its supposed to.
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Playing out of your comfort zone is the only fast way to improve. This doesn't just mean new builds, it also means changing your sens or hotkey setup.
Right before you're about to improve drastically in some way, your play will be below what you're used it.
Gotta get worse before you get better.
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You got used to using your mouse at the speed it's at right now, you can get used to using it at any other speed. There you go man, I solved your problems. No more restless nights where you lie awake in bed worrying about your mouse sensitivity.
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I think you will get used to a higher sensitivity faster than you might think.
It will be weird at first, but even after a couple hours, I think you'll like it
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i recently got a new mouse, and from all the mouse threads ive checked up concerning this. Every person has recommended
6/11 bars for the mouse setting in the control panel, and 52% mouse sensitivity in game, and to make sure mouse acceleration is off. Then they say if you really want the mouse to move faster with accuracy you need a mouse with a higher dpi setting and only change the dpi setting.
Now this is all fine , but this does not seem to be true, because as a matter of fact i have screen captured alot of the "pro streams", when they went into there option settings.
For instance i see Nestea uses a mouse sensitivity of 70% ![[image loading]](http://i41.tinypic.com/2a4y7it.jpg)
I see marine king uses a mouse sensitivity of 60%
These are 2 guys that have done extremely well in the gsl while probably not even knowing what the best options are for the mouse in regards to the sensitivity and how to adjust it properly.
So this leads me to believe it really does not matter about pixel lost or anything, Basically the conclusion i have drawn is that ignore what anybody says, mess around with the settings until you feel its right.
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There is an old saying.
"Do as we say not as we do"
Just because those players are really good, doesnt mean they can't be even better. The facts are the facts.
There is also another problem and thats sponsorship.
If your sponsor hands you shit products like Steelseries does on a daily basis. Your gonna do what you can with what you got.
Some players manage to use good gear anyway with a sponsor logo on it, but then they get called out on it later on by someone.
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I think it's generally accepted that higher dpi setting mastery is better for gameplay performance.
I would suggest getting used to higher sensitivity, because it will benefit you the most in the longrun.
Just my 2 cents. ^-^
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On February 02 2012 00:40 jinixxx123 wrote:i recently got a new mouse, and from all the mouse threads ive checked up concerning this. Every person has recommended 6/11 bars for the mouse setting in the control panel, and 52% mouse sensitivity in game, and to make sure mouse acceleration is off. Then they say if you really want the mouse to move faster with accuracy you need a mouse with a higher dpi setting and only change the dpi setting. Now this is all fine , but this does not seem to be true, because as a matter of fact i have screen captured alot of the "pro streams", when they went into there option settings. For instance i see Nestea uses a mouse sensitivity of 70% I see marine king uses a mouse sensitivity of 60% These are 2 guys that have done extremely well in the gsl while probably not even knowing what the best options are for the mouse in regards to the sensitivity and how to adjust it properly. So this leads me to believe it really does not matter about pixel lost or anything, Basically the conclusion i have drawn is that ignore what anybody says, mess around with the settings until you feel its right.
You can be a GSL champion with pixel skipping, sure, but those settings are simply inferior from a technological standpoint. There is no reason to copy them.
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I'm not familiar with the mouse you're using, but if it has those extra side buttons, like mine, I've changed my 'drag-scroll' to the Mouse-Back button which changes the need to reach the edge of the screen into a simple thumb press on the side of my mouse.
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Just another opinion, I play sc2 at 1700 dpi. I tried higher, but found I took extra time to aim at individual units. I found 1700 to be a good balance between speed and accuracy.
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Well, since my post has popped back and has gained some popularity. I’ll give everyone an update, but first let me thank everyone for their advice. Everyone had (especially day9) good things to say. Even more so in some of the recent posts. IPS.blue – You could be right about the acceleration.
**Update**
As I said, I initially started out with a 450CPI, 6/11, in-game mouse sense off, 1920x1080 and I was trying to use a FPS setup with an RTS (does not work, I promise). The thing that I loved about this was the precision I gained in unit control, but what I hated and lacked was screen control. I would try to kite and in the middle of kiting if I got to the edge of my monitor I would literally have to do a huge jerking motion to get the screen to move so I could continue to kite. Sometimes it would work and sometimes I wouldn’t jerk enough. Or… I had to become double jointed on the spot just to click the minimap…
After reading everyone’s post, I felt like 600CPI was a good middle ground. I could still maintain precision, but at the same time I could easily move around the screen. So I when up 1 click to 540CPI, because 630CPI felt like too much of a jump at the time. Used that for about a week and then moved up to 630.
I think at this point I’m pretty comfortable with it and I safely tell you that it is a huge improvement! I can still micro, but at the same time I can easily control the screen and click the mini-map without popping my arm out of the joint (kidding of course). My game pace has doubled, because I don’t have any physical limitations. It feels much more natural without any of those little hiccups in my game.
Thanks again everyone…
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what mouse sensitivity does everyone use? In game sens. is at 67% for me.
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On February 02 2012 03:18 BeastLee wrote:
what mouse sensitivity does everyone use? In game sens. is at 67% for me.
I would say don't use the in-game sensitivity at all if you can avoid it.
Setting your mouse speed outside of the game to what you want it to be inside the game is definitely ideal. It's much better to have the same mouse speed inside and outside the game, there's no adjustment time and you're always working on your accuracy
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I think that your sensitivity is too low for RTS games. Its great for FPS, but I think in RTS you need to go a little higher. I also have a sensei and I have 6/11, 1300 CPI, and 55% ingame sens. It is a nice middle ground between speed and accuracy, and is imo the best for rts, because it allows to to micro very well, while still having enough speed to move around.
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idk any cpi rating stuff but i use a wireless microsoft 4000.
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On January 07 2012 02:37 Day[9] wrote:There's no right or wrong w/ mouse sensitivity! There are pros who have fairly low sensitivity and move their whole arm around actively (not just wrists and fingers!). Others, including myself, use very high sensitivity with great accuracy. (I recently dropped my sensitivity ab it due to an injury .) Make sure that whatever you do feels comfortable for you! If you find yourself having a very difficult time scrolling to the edges of the screen, try to adjust the sensitivity to something that feels good for that task. Then, relearn other control problems (such as having trouble right clicking on small units accurately). You'll be surprised to find your brain becomes comfortable w/ new sensitivities very quickly .
Pretty much what I wanted to say. But I have a feeling people trust Day9 more than myself
So in expected forum fashion..........
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On February 02 2012 02:33 p1cKLes wrote:
Well, since my post has popped back and has gained some popularity. I’ll give everyone an update, but first let me thank everyone for their advice. Everyone had (especially day9) good things to say. Even more so in some of the recent posts. IPS.blue – You could be right about the acceleration.
**Update**
As I said, I initially started out with a 450CPI, 6/11, in-game mouse sense off, 1920x1080 and I was trying to use a FPS setup with an RTS (does not work, I promise). The thing that I loved about this was the precision I gained in unit control, but what I hated and lacked was screen control. I would try to kite and in the middle of kiting if I got to the edge of my monitor I would literally have to do a huge jerking motion to get the screen to move so I could continue to kite. Sometimes it would work and sometimes I wouldn’t jerk enough. Or… I had to become double jointed on the spot just to click the minimap…
After reading everyone’s post, I felt like 600CPI was a good middle ground. I could still maintain precision, but at the same time I could easily move around the screen. So I when up 1 click to 540CPI, because 630CPI felt like too much of a jump at the time. Used that for about a week and then moved up to 630.
I think at this point I’m pretty comfortable with it and I safely tell you that it is a huge improvement! I can still micro, but at the same time I can easily control the screen and click the mini-map without popping my arm out of the joint (kidding of course). My game pace has doubled, because I don’t have any physical limitations. It feels much more natural without any of those little hiccups in my game.
Thanks again everyone…
I bought a deathadder and have been using 450dpi (6/11, 51%) in sc2 at 1920x1080, i think it is still very playable if you are used to lower sens, at anything less than like 1k DPI though you should probably get used to the option to hold down middle mouse button to move camera (which should be set to 100% speed in options, inverted or not based on preferences)
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i have a xai with no acceleration and windows at 6 (middle). i switch between 2400 and 4200. idk which i like better but i like these two settings for sensitivity.
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Ive been playing for the last year or so on Maximum Sensitivity both in Game and Through the normal mouse setting on teh computer. I have the Razer Spectre but i havnt messed with the DPI mainly out of fear because i really dont know much about it.
It took a few games to get used to. but it also increased the number of hotkeys i was using so it was win/win id say just get comfortable and play to your style
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On February 02 2012 02:33 p1cKLes wrote:
... IPS.blue – You could be right about the acceleration.
I would be very interested in the movement speeds you achieve in-game.
On February 02 2012 02:33 p1cKLes wrote:
... So I when up 1 click to 540CPI, because 630CPI felt like too much of a jump at the time. Used that for about a week and then moved up to 630 ...
I feel like 630 CPI is the speed I would end up, if I had a Sensei ;P
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