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Hi Guys,
Figured I'd post this months stats myself since it's a somewhat special update; we now have the stats for a full year of 2011!
This album contains both the combined International charts and Korea only, as well as color blind versions. In this update I have also added (approximate) patch markers. As always I appreciate feedback!
http://imgur.com/a/3yZUQ
All in all there are almost 40.000 games recorded in 2011 in TLPD. These charts contain most of them (mirrors are removed of course). In the combined chart the sample size is quite decent, and should give a good picture what the actual win rates where during the year.
As always these stats have little or no bearing on ladder play, they only contain professional league and tournament results. They also do not give any insight into the actual balance of gameplay, only what race managed to secure the most wins.
I would like to thank all the people who work hard adding these stats to TLPD. You are doing a great service to the community creating an amazing resource for doing things like this! (Now get that backlog for 2011 done!  )
Also, thanks to the entire Starcraft community for making 2011 an amazing year!
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Awesome. Thanks for all your work in 2011.
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TvZ seems to be moving towards 50/50 in recent months which is good.
PvZ also seems to be the same.
I'm kinda curious how did the PvT gap widen after the EMP nerf......
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Why did TvP become more Terran favored after the EMP nerf? -.-
Other than that, it looks like the winratios are going in the right direction.
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THis atually looks really, really good! Gj bliz
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TvP is likely changing because
A- people learned to aim with smaller EMP
B- Skymehci s being developped and P needs to adapt
C- The core problem of the matchup (Colossi strong gateway weak) hasn't been attacked
D- Terran goes 2 engi bay faster than 2 forges for P
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TvP is back up a bit into terran's favor because more terrans started allin-ing I believe. It's definitely not because every T's gotten better, late game is still a big problem for many.
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^^ I Auto-all in vs P every single game after 1.4.2
Either way in korea its 52% T to 48% P
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PvZ favouring Protoss again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's only going to get worse IMO.
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i dont feel like terrans allin more. imo rather less than prepatch.
the only thing i noticed in pvt is that more and more terrans realized that they can use a ability called personal cloaking and then snipe your obs with vikings and emp simply everything.
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On January 02 2012 20:30 MilesTeg wrote:
PvZ favouring Protoss again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's only going to get worse IMO.
Some people like MC had good runs. That is the only reason it went up.
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On January 02 2012 20:30 MilesTeg wrote:
PvZ favouring Protoss again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's only going to get worse IMO.
It is actually still favoring zerg....
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On January 02 2012 20:32 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 20:30 MilesTeg wrote:
PvZ favouring Protoss again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's only going to get worse IMO. Some people like MC had good runs. That is the only reason it went up.
Which should immediately scream that these statistics shouldn't be taken as particularly useful, if one player can flip who the matchup favours.
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On January 02 2012 20:33 Harstem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 20:30 MilesTeg wrote:
PvZ favouring Protoss again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's only going to get worse IMO. It is actually still favoring zerg....
Not in Korea it's not.
I wonder why TvP has gotten MORE T favored even after the EMP nerf. Perhaps Protoss' have been extra careful cramming as much units in the smallest area possible so their army still gets blanketed by 4 EMP's?
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Terran started dominating late game TvP with ghost/viking and protoss reintroduced the turtle-to-mothership back to PvZ. Zergs are starting to deal with motherships much better, though I've yet to see a convincing answer to late game terran from any protoss.
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It looks good enough, I expect they are mostly looking at points they can tackle for HotS - colossi reliance, MMM dominating from start to finish, mutalisks being too good when massed.
Cheese tends to get weaker over time and tosses were being cheesed A LOT in ZvP and TvP, so no wonder their winrates go up.
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Why is in this graph the overall international win rate is showing terran at 50 something percent for novmber? while it was at 49 when the november graph was released last month. also why is pvt 52% to 48% in this version for november while last month it was reading 45% T to 55% P?? are these the same graphs done by the same person or different? has the numbers been changed?
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On January 02 2012 20:35 Chaosvuistje wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 20:33 Harstem wrote:On January 02 2012 20:30 MilesTeg wrote:
PvZ favouring Protoss again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's only going to get worse IMO. It is actually still favoring zerg.... Not in Korea it's not. I wonder why TvP has gotten MORE T favored even after the EMP nerf. Perhaps Protoss' have been extra careful cramming as much units in the smallest area possible so their army still gets blanketed by 4 EMP's?
I'm not terribly surprised. I think in the P v T matchup, Terran strategy is by far less developed than the Protoss strategy in this matchup. Terrans haven't needed to innovate in a long time, only refining current builds. With Protoss winning a few games, we have strategy being explored by Terrans, so we're going to start seeing metagame shifts back and forth in the coming months.
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On January 02 2012 20:39 DaveVAH wrote:
Why is in this graph the overall international win rate is showing terran at 50 something percent for novmber? while it was at 49 when the november graph was released last month. also why is pvt 52% to 48% in this version for november while last month it was reading 45% T to 55% P?? are these the same graphs done by the same person or different? has the numbers been changed?
Same person, but more games have been added to TLPD since then, because not all games are added to TLPD as soon as they are played out. There is normally a delay.
Thanks again, Ctuchik. Is your name by any chance taken from the Belgariad by Eddings?
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Can't wait for another terran nerf. TvP gets harder and harder every day for T for non GM/top masters players, but b/c Pros are getting it done we gonna get nerfed more. Additionally I get bm'ed by every P at start assuming I'm going to cheese or 111 when I don't. I guess I should join the crowd if I'm already being blamed right?
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