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KawaiiRice and Fnatic part ways - Page 14

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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 15:53:21
January 03 2012 15:51 GMT
#261
On January 04 2012 00:29 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 12:58 IPA wrote:
On January 02 2012 20:45 HickleStine wrote:
On January 02 2012 20:24 black3200 wrote:
Im sure 75% of you talking here cant beat him in sc2 lol.

Probably more like 99-100% o.O

He's actually really really good - tournament results aren't everything. Practice/ladderwise he has good winrates against top foreigners and some code A/S koreans.


Tournaments actually are everything.

GL Kawaii.


No, they actually aren't.

Anyone who plays this game should be able to tell how insanely talented he is by watching his stream. He is one of the few NA players that regularly practices on KR server and he plays against many code A/S players. Also, why would shyness have anything to do with his viability as a pro gamer... so ridiculous.

Yes, they really really are.

What you do when you're on stage and the pressure is on is what defines your career, not how many times you refined a build in practice or that time you beat Nestea on ladder. You know what they call that player who always beat top players in practice and was constantly top 5 GM for a year straight but never won any major tournaments? Nobody. Because nobody is going to remember someone who never did anything when it mattered. Tournaments are everything.

Also, being shy and awkward does hurt you. It reduces your marketability. One things that a lot of people on TL evidently fail to realize is that in individual sports, being able to promote yourself as a sort of brand is very important when it comes to maximizing success. Being not only a good player but someone who is recognized within the community as a well spoken, fan and media friendly personality increases your market value and makes you more attractive to prospective sponsors. Look at players like Incontrol or TLO for instance. In spite of their competitive struggles, they remain major figures in the community because they've got a knack for PR. And yet here's Kawaiirice, a player who you seem to suggest should be considered a top foreign talent, but he's hardly a blip on anyone's radar.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
January 03 2012 17:23 GMT
#262
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299983

Kr joining team Light
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
January 03 2012 18:42 GMT
#263
On January 04 2012 00:29 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 12:58 IPA wrote:
On January 02 2012 20:45 HickleStine wrote:
On January 02 2012 20:24 black3200 wrote:
Im sure 75% of you talking here cant beat him in sc2 lol.

Probably more like 99-100% o.O

He's actually really really good - tournament results aren't everything. Practice/ladderwise he has good winrates against top foreigners and some code A/S koreans.


Tournaments actually are everything.

GL Kawaii.


No, they actually aren't.

Anyone who plays this game should be able to tell how insanely talented he is by watching his stream. He is one of the few NA players that regularly practices on KR server and he plays against many code A/S players. Also, why would shyness have anything to do with his viability as a pro gamer... so ridiculous.


Sorry, bud, they are.

Being a ladder hero means absolutely nothing. Having a good "reputation" means absolutely nothing (in the grand competitive scheme of things). Tournament results are the only accolades worth a damn at the end of the day. Competition is about winning under pressure on the biggest possible stage; it's not about achieving GM with a 65% win rate.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
cameler
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada99 Posts
January 03 2012 20:12 GMT
#264
"One things that a lot of people on TL evidently fail to realize is that in individual sports, being able to promote yourself as a sort of brand is very important when it comes to maximizing success. Being not only a good player but someone who is recognized within the community as a well spoken, fan and media friendly personality increases your market value and makes you more attractive to prospective sponsors. "

Gee, I wonder how Idra got all those sponsors then
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
January 03 2012 20:16 GMT
#265
You guys are arguing three different things.

Ladder results are important for establishing your baseline skill, potential results and consistency.
Tournament results are important for establishing your competitive success.
Marketability is important for establishing your fanbase and hence your financial value to a team.

They're all important. Their relative importance depends on what your goals are.

Let's talk about KR.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 03 2012 20:48 GMT
#266
On January 04 2012 05:16 Chill wrote:
You guys are arguing three different things.

Ladder results are important for establishing your baseline skill, potential results and consistency.
Tournament results are important for establishing your competitive success.
Marketability is important for establishing your fanbase and hence your financial value to a team.

They're all important. Their relative importance depends on what your goals are.

Let's talk about KR.

OK.

I think he's a cutie. Fnatic is much less cute without him.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
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