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GSL 2012 Group Nominations - Page 4

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Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
December 28 2011 16:47 GMT
#61
Does anyone find it funny that Boxer is the only one ho has his Team stated? (As in SlayersBoxer)

Everyone else it is just the ID...
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 16:50:40
December 28 2011 16:48 GMT
#62
On December 29 2011 00:39 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:19 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.

Yeah right for their "results" :D


...? Sen has arguably the best results of any foreigner, placing consistently high at almost every big event and Idra has a good deal of GSL points + MLG results.

Afaik you have to earn your Code S spot by qualifying through the tough Code B and Code A qualifiers. The real reason I assume they invited them is because the want more foreign viewers. So its not about merit its all about popularity, I hate that


You can get them from MLG (which Idra did for Code A) and GOM has 2 foreign invites per season iirc. I'm pretty sure the only reason Sen got in is because Naniwa lost his Code S spot and Idra has the results, gsl points, and already had an up/down seed iirc.

You also have to remember that GSL is much harder for foreigners than Koreans: you're usually thousands of miles from home, don't know anyone, probably don't speak the language or know the cultures, etc. So staying in Korea to continually try to just get into Code A is a lot to ask someone like Idra or Sen to be doing, if they don't deserve their slots in Code S they'll lose them quite quickly.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
December 28 2011 16:51 GMT
#63
On December 29 2011 01:23 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:39 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:19 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.

Yeah right for their "results" :D


...? Sen has arguably the best results of any foreigner, placing consistently high at almost every big event and Idra has a good deal of GSL points + MLG results.

Afaik you have to earn your Code S spot by qualifying through the tough Code B and Code A qualifiers. The real reason I assume they invited them is because the want more foreign viewers. So its not about merit its all about popularity, I hate that

a bunch of the korean pros rode on MLG spots to get to Code S (MVP from Anaheim, MMA from Columbus), so idk about the "tough Code B and Code A qualifiers" part. GOM already said they were going to give spots to foreigners, might as well give them to the best foreigners. im sorry if you hate it. you can go talk to Mr. Chae if you want to. i doubt he'll care though.


MMA, MC and DRG are the ones who got Code-S from MLG.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 28 2011 16:51 GMT
#64
Anyone else notice "Curios"? Is that a new kind of mysterious cereal? :D


Anyway, very pleased with this change. Good work from GOM. Now we just need them to have only two main tournaments a year and I'll be exceptionally happy.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Thretau
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland85 Posts
December 28 2011 16:53 GMT
#65
On December 29 2011 01:47 Jotoco wrote:
Does anyone find it funny that Boxer is the only one ho has his Team stated? (As in SlayersBoxer)

Everyone else it is just the ID...

It used to be his nickname during his Broodwar years iirc.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 28 2011 17:00 GMT
#66
FXOz - bugging tables since 2011 Nice system, I approve.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 28 2011 17:04 GMT
#67
I'm surprised Inca is back in Code S to be honest. But let's see how he does!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
December 28 2011 17:09 GMT
#68
Hoping for some drama.

Hoping to see groups with some of these combinations:
Zenio/IdrA
Leenock/MKP
MMA/DRG
aLive/inCa
Keen/NaDa
sC/NesTea
MVP/ForGG
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 17:31:39
December 28 2011 17:13 GMT
#69
On December 29 2011 00:43 Primadog wrote:
Not a fan of tiers being determined by GSL rank points. This was the same trap that MLG fell in last year (and now abolished).

The MAJOR difference between GSL and MLG (last year) is that you actually have to qualify for the GSL Code S ro32, and thus the seedings really only sorts the players out from positions 9-32 rather than giving them a spot.

For MLG, being in the top16 (or was it top20?) meant that you were automatically put into the pool play and can only finish at the lowest in the 30-something position even if you go 0-5 in your group. This got you quite a bit of points and hence it's a self repeating cycle - players who are in the pool play got alot of points which made them keep their pool play position.

In contrast, if you don't perform in the GSL Code S, you can fall into Code B in one season. The good thing this system does is to prevent suicidal picks (MC lol) and fan favourites eliminating each other in the ro32.
Bazzyrick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom361 Posts
December 28 2011 17:19 GMT
#70
This is a beautiful looking Code S. What makes it even better is that the majority of these players know that they have a huge chance of falling out of Code S for several rounds. They are all going to practice harder and fight harder.
I wish good luck to Sen, and I'm not a huge fan of Idra but I wish him luck anyway. I want to see a larger list of foreigners beating top level Koreans.

I think once 2012 is over, we'll be calling that the year of eSports, and we'll of forgotten all about 2011.
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
December 28 2011 17:23 GMT
#71
"* Code S Ro.32 Group Nomination (will not be broadcasted)"
I know it's mostly going to be random but still....
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 18:05:21
December 28 2011 18:01 GMT
#72
That's a pretty nice system, allowing new blood to be matched against top contenders, and if failing having another chance vs some middle tier competition. It also allows a more seeded system without Nestea vs MVP in ro256 (even tho there is no ro256 and Nestea isn't top tier anymore :p)
Curisou is tier 4 haha, poor opponents.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 18:05:03
December 28 2011 18:03 GMT
#73
On December 29 2011 01:47 Jotoco wrote:
Does anyone find it funny that Boxer is the only one ho has his Team stated? (As in SlayersBoxer)

Everyone else it is just the ID...

It's because his ID IS SlayersBoxer That's why his team is called slayers, and not the other way.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 28 2011 18:04 GMT
#74
I'm just really curious about sC, will he be well in time to play in this season of GSL? I hope so

I miss sC's awesomeness.
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Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
December 28 2011 18:10 GMT
#75
Oz is still Z lol.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 28 2011 18:10 GMT
#76
On December 29 2011 03:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm just really curious about sC, will he be well in time to play in this season of GSL? I hope so

I miss sC's awesomeness.


sC vs Nestea was one of the most awesome series ever, but even then I underestimated him.

His 2-0ing of MC in GSL, given that MC has the best PvT in the world, is pretty spectacular, however.

I look forward to sC's return.
Vindicate
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
December 28 2011 18:15 GMT
#77
When guys like Forgg (who I think might be the single best new addition to sc2) and Sen are Tier 4 it says a lot about the terrifying nature of the GSL player lineup. The system is sort of wonky I think, but it will provide great games. I can't wait!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 28 2011 18:18 GMT
#78
On December 29 2011 03:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm just really curious about sC, will he be well in time to play in this season of GSL? I hope so

I miss sC's awesomeness.


He got out of the hospital like yesterday or a day before if I recall correctly. There's still plenty of time to practice, if he doesn't have a relapse again.

sC is an incredibly strong player when his health is okay and he has had enough practice.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 28 2011 18:22 GMT
#79
On December 29 2011 02:13 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:43 Primadog wrote:
Not a fan of tiers being determined by GSL rank points. This was the same trap that MLG fell in last year (and now abolished).

The MAJOR difference between GSL and MLG (last year) is that you actually have to qualify for the GSL Code S ro32, and thus the seedings really only sorts the players out from positions 9-32 rather than giving them a spot.

For MLG, being in the top16 (or was it top20?) meant that you were automatically put into the pool play and can only finish at the lowest in the 30-something position even if you go 0-5 in your group. This got you quite a bit of points and hence it's a self repeating cycle - players who are in the pool play got alot of points which made them keep their pool play position.

In contrast, if you don't perform in the GSL Code S, you can fall into Code B in one season. The good thing this system does is to prevent suicidal picks (MC lol) and fan favourites eliminating each other in the ro32.

also the number of GSLs to accumulate points from is larger than the MLG sample size. This makes it more fair than the MLG system imo
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 28 2011 18:43 GMT
#80
On December 29 2011 03:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 02:13 Azzur wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:43 Primadog wrote:
Not a fan of tiers being determined by GSL rank points. This was the same trap that MLG fell in last year (and now abolished).

The MAJOR difference between GSL and MLG (last year) is that you actually have to qualify for the GSL Code S ro32, and thus the seedings really only sorts the players out from positions 9-32 rather than giving them a spot.

For MLG, being in the top16 (or was it top20?) meant that you were automatically put into the pool play and can only finish at the lowest in the 30-something position even if you go 0-5 in your group. This got you quite a bit of points and hence it's a self repeating cycle - players who are in the pool play got alot of points which made them keep their pool play position.

In contrast, if you don't perform in the GSL Code S, you can fall into Code B in one season. The good thing this system does is to prevent suicidal picks (MC lol) and fan favourites eliminating each other in the ro32.

also the number of GSLs to accumulate points from is larger than the MLG sample size. This makes it more fair than the MLG system imo

If anything more spread out tournaments (without decaying points) is more unfair. It shouldn't matter that who was good 11 months ago when you are determining seeds for a current tournament.

It doesn't matter though because seeds in GSL is way less importnat that MLG. At least it means there won't be any more MVP vs Nestea in Ro32.
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